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future of seed biz and growshops in canada.....

I love the comment further down in that article page that quotes Marc Emery: “Legalization means the end of the lucrative money in weed growing & distribution.” I couldn't agree more. I'm so sick of people thinking they are going to capitalize on an artificially inflated product. I can grow my organic Cannabis at home for a fraction of the cost these Marijuana Entrepreneurs or "Manures" I call them want to sell it for. A Cannabis producer should have the same rules and regulations in place like they would any other food crop we ingest. Trying to fit Cannabis into an Oxycodone model just doesn't work. Nobody in 10 000 years has died from Cannabis, how much safer can we make it? I understand some basic tests for elevated levels of microbes and pesticides, but that's it. Cannabis is a plant, not a pill, so trying to standerdize it to the same extent is virtually impossible.

So you are the BCBD guy eh Matt? Well I've got a little bit of beef with you and your seed company. I was sold a $90 pack of GSC at the treating yourself expo 2 years ago. Lo and behold, all plants went herm with no stress whatsoever. I did a little research and found others to have the same problem. I am not a weathly guy like you, I earn an honest wage as a hardworking electrician. Wasting $90 on seeds was a pretty big blow to me, considering I had to open up a credit line in the past just to gain access to quality meds. I'm still in debt, but thankfully now that I'm growing for myself I can finally start paying it off. Now, if someone who earns over $30 an hour can't afford MMPR/black market prices, how in the hell do you expect to cash in off all the sick patients on disability who earn next to nothing? It's a joke, and from what I've seen, your genetics are a joke as well. I don't care what HT Cups you've won, we all know how shady those things are anyways. The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding you sold me sucked.

The future of Cannabis in Canada is small scale greenhouses with supplemental lighting and shading technologies, combined with small home gardens. The cost of maintaining an MMPR style mega grow is just infeasible, especially when high quality organic product is the main objective. I would even like to see Cannabis Social clubs start turning up once legalization hits. The Europeans are doing it right, putting the patient first, not the profits.

After reading that article, and seeing how much of a steamer you are Matt, I can clearly see now you are just in this business for the money. Driving around in your flashy yellow hummer, sitting on your nice 100 000 doller rainy day fund. It's all about the quality meds though right?

Now I'm not a hater, I was asked to grow for an LP, and the offer is still there. I'm not out to make money in this game though, and when I realized what we had to sell the product for just to break even the first year, I was out. I am all about the greater good, and getting this medicine into the hands of people who need it the most. Trying to set yourself up to be the next Seagrams of Cannabis is self centered and boardering on egomanical. Let's open up the market to all, then we will see who the real compassionate growers are. The diffence between guys like me and you, I dream of Marijuana, you dream of Money.

Then there's Med-Man, the one and only. Well I have to say you're one up on Matt for genetic stability, but quality of product is just okay. I am only speaking of your RSK, the only stain of yours I've grown out. The RSK you did well with at the TYExpo 2 years ago was a nice example of good meds. The only thing is, all the cups you win with are the clone only cuts, not the seeds you breed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this I found to be a bit sleazy. At least you could grow out a few F1's and choose your best cut to enter. That would be a much better representation of the seeds you hawk. Ah well, live and learn. I will admit though I am interested in you selling $1-$2 dollar grams in the MMPR. This to me sounds like an impossibility, but who am I to say. If you can pull that off Med-Man you'd garner a ton of respect from your peers. With you being 3 years out from production though, and with legalization right around the corner, we could all be growing for less then $1-$2 a gram in small backyard greenhouses. So really, who cares?

Who ever hasn't yet, please join the MMAR Coalition Against Repeal. In these dark days before the dawn of true Cannabis freedom, it's the only honourable path to take.

Free The Seed, Free The Weed, Then We Will Be Free Indeed.

SF
 
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Chimera - have you ever been approached by big corp to purchase your genetics or research, etc.?


Somebody offered me $1.5 million in stock just last week. I lol'd. Another co tried to hire me to breed and fill the CSO dept. I declined, but said I would pass on the info of the right breeder for thier co.. Still waiting to hear back.

It's getting serious, there are reql groups amongst the pump and dump former mining firms. I'm holding out for someone who shares the understanding that this needs to be patient oriented and plant focused. It's the only thing that interests me.
 

med-man

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lol

lemon thai that beat remo = f-1 hybrid

med-man
 

med-man

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first place bubble haze

f-1 hybrid

med-man
 
That's cool Med-Man, good job on the wins. If you read my post though I was referring to the RSK from a couple years ago. I also said correct me if I'm wrong, but was the RSK a clone only you entered? The pheno's I got didn't really resemble the cut at all. I wasn't trying to bash you, just get some more info on how you roll. I wasn't really speaking of any other strains, considering I haven't grown anything else out of yours. With those results you never know, I might just give you another try.

I'll say it again though, you had stable genes, unlike some people around here. I just wasn't that fond of the finnished product. I am biased towards sativa leaning hybrids though, so maybe that lemon thai would fit the bill.

Oh.. and was it really necessary to post your wins in two separate posts? It would of all fit nicely in one, lol

Keep On Growing,
SF
 
hey SF our first run of GSC did have some stability issues, this has been fixed a long time ago now, hope we can help, Matt

Did you "fix" things with all the growers that wasted their time and money growing out hermied bunk and issue refunds for the GSC? Seems to me to be the only honest way to conduct business if you released and unstable and unsuitable product for sale to the masses......
 

med-man

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That's cool Med-Man, good job on the wins. If you read my post though I was referring to the RSK from a couple years ago. I also said correct me if I'm wrong, but was the RSK a clone only you entered? The pheno's I got didn't really resemble the cut at all. I wasn't trying to bash you, just get some more info on how you roll. I wasn't really speaking of any other strains, considering I haven't grown anything else out of yours. With those results you never know, I might just give you another try.

I'll say it again though, you had stable genes, unlike some people around here. I just wasn't that fond of the finnished product. I am biased towards sativa leaning hybrids though, so maybe that lemon thai would fit the bill.

Oh.. and was it really necessary to post your wins in two separate posts? It would of all fit nicely in one, lol

Keep On Growing,
SF


hey scott

i doubt you ever ran my cut to be honest, but i am going off a post or 2.

and i was trying to remember which plants placed from seed.

maple ridge rock-star kush has nothing to do with any other cut called rock-star. remol and bong guru both have seen my rsk and can vouche

peace

med-man
 

med-man

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hey SF our first run of GSC did have some stability issues, this has been fixed a long time ago now, hope we can help, Matt

hey matt

would have been also nice if first you asked for permission to use my pics, second to have said they have nohting to do with your products and 3rd, didnt make up the heritage of any name or pics of my ip.

much appreciated

med-man
 
Well at least you're honest about it Matt, I can respect that. I was going to approach you this year at the Champs Expo to let you know how the seeds turned out, but alas, you were nowhere to be found. I saw that the S1's took first place at the 2013 HT Cannabis cup in Los Angeles, so I'm sure there are some good GSC beans out there, just not what I got. It was a full on tranny party at my place!

Peace
SF
 
hey scott

i doubt you ever ran my cut to be honest, but i am going off a post or 2.

and i was trying to remember which plants placed from seed.

maple ridge rock-star kush has nothing to do with any other cut called rock-star. remol and bong guru both have seen my rsk and can vouche

peace

med-man

No, never ran your cut you're right. I did get to visually see it and smell it while I was at your booth during the 2013 TYExpo. So yes I have seen your cut, and that's what sold me on your beans during the expo. To give you the benefit of the doubt though, I only cracked 5 of the 10 which left me with two fem's I grew out. The other 5 might still hold that special something, you never know.

Peace
SF
 

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hey scott

cool dude

well maybe gives us a dried bud shot and smoke report when they put out for ya k?

med-man
 
hey scott

cool dude

well maybe gives us a dried bud shot and smoke report when they put out for ya k?

med-man

I've got a heri run planned in three months, so maybe I'll stick them alongside. I won't lie, the RSK buds I grew got my right stoned off my ass, just didn't have that nose I know the cut does.

Peace
SF
 
Somebody offered me $1.5 million in stock just last week. I lol'd. Another co tried to hire me to breed and fill the CSO dept. I declined, but said I would pass on the info of the right breeder for thier co.. Still waiting to hear back.

It's getting serious, there are reql groups amongst the pump and dump former mining firms. I'm holding out for someone who shares the understanding that this needs to be patient oriented and plant focused. It's the only thing that interests me.

Hey Chimera, I'm glad to see a good Canadian breeder doing the right thing, and not selling out to the highest bidder. 1.5 million is a lot, and would be next to impossible for most to turn down. I think that speaks volumes about your personality and willingness to do the right thing for the patients, not your pocketbook. Finding a team of like minded individuals in this burgeoning industry won't be easy though, especially since the "Greed Rash" is so contagious.

You might eventually have to bite the bullet if you want to participate in the MMPR. All approved LP's so far are corporations, no sole proprietorships or co-ops in sight. This means the corp you work for will most definitely be profit driven despite your modus operandi.

The thought of being forced to grow a certain way or with certain products to save costs, only takes away from the joy of cultivation. So, for me, unless I can run a small scale grow without all the costly regulations in place, I'll just stick to my home garden for now. I predict legalization will open up the gates for us all to participate in the new green industry, not just the few with no ethics and deep pockets.

Peace
SF
 
Somebody offered me $1.5 million in stock just last week. I lol'd. Another co tried to hire me to breed and fill the CSO dept. I declined, but said I would pass on the info of the right breeder for thier co.. Still waiting to hear back.

It's getting serious, there are reql groups amongst the pump and dump former mining firms. I'm holding out for someone who shares the understanding that this needs to be patient oriented and plant focused. It's the only thing that interests me.

Thank you for sharing that insight.

It wouldn't seem like mining experience or infrastructure would be useful. Obviously, you are the most valuable asset in your company. Apart from you, where do these suitors see value; seed stock, research, patent rights, etc.?

"Chimera" as a brand name is worth more than $1.5, isn't it?
 
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ALPCE from Canada. shares cost 51c
but many people say: STOP MARIJUANA, I can be wrong, but thats can stop grow price...
your opinion important for me, do you realy think price will huge???

See my sig??? Comes from the securities biz.... :) advice is given by know it alls who just want your money. Brokers make money regardless if you do. just remember that 50 percent of the time, im always right:)

Big RESPECT to the heavyweights, who took time to share their views and ideas here.. Chimera, Medman, BCBD Matt h, and anyone else who thinks their a heavyweight pm me and ill add u to the list:)
 
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