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First Coco grow with PH perfect

dabking

Member
I must have missed that part? DabKing? 600ppm isn't enough :thinking:

I'll go out on the limb and armchair quarterback this... 600ppm is plenty. Stay the course until she shows you she wants more, plant's need a surprisingly small amount of nutrition. Most of what they need depends more on their environment. Without a lot of light and CO2 in there I don't see how a small plant like that would need as much nutrition as my own plants do 5 weeks into flowering (750ppm).


I have said nothing about the ppm. 600 on seedlings is too much. The max I feed in bloom is maybe 1000ppm. Environment is everything.

what lighting is in use?
 

Jydcoo

Member
Angusnaut*. He said It was not enough and It seems fit. 5 ML per Gallon did not Make PH perfect Do its Magic. Trust Me I am 600 PPMs, RO water. Cal Mag to 150-200, Then my A+B to 460-500 or so. Voodoo, Sensizym, B-52 to 600.
No nute Burn at all. BD wants more. Look at her color
 

Jydcoo

Member
400 watt Per Plant. My Circulation is Tier 1. Closet is Open during Lights on. AC & Oscillating Fans have kept my Temps steady lately at 79-84. It hits 72 -75 for An hr or so When I Spray the room with water to raise the Humidity to 60-70%. Must be Good CO2 Circulation as well, I am going to Buy a co2 generator/Tank Once I flower Late July/Early August.
 

Jydcoo

Member
Using blueLab Truncheon. I will Take pics of Meter and Watering Of Next Feed. The BD has Light Spots on her. I keep thinking Cal-Mag hence Me adding it before A+B. I am just the Messenger. BD is Far from a Seedling.
 

Jydcoo

Member
I'd Guess she is about a Week into Veg
 

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dabking

Member
Are you using the coco formula? I never needed cal mag with advanced nutrients. Even when using the regular sensi line. Do you ever check run off PPM's?
 

drgr33nuk

Member
I'd Guess she is about a Week into Veg

This plant still does not look to healthy. I can't be sure but it looks like you have some twisting to the leaves at the top and overall the plant looks stressed.

It all looks like the PH is out to me :D Again PH perfect not being so PH Perfect ;) Lots of different opinions here and thats good. Everyone has their own way of doing things and debate is healthy because we learn more.

Your EC seems fine for this stage. I would be up a little by no (about 1.2EC) and please FORGET the CAL/MAG. you don't need it with AN. Without trying to cause an argument their products have been made to suit RO water !! Not soft water (up to 0.4EC) and defo not hard water (up to 0.9).

My advise would to set you PH with correction fluid & water more frequently. Your out of the seedling stage now and might be experiencing problems cause your coco is on a too aggressive wet / dry cycle.

Good luck buddy.
 

papaduc

Active member
Veteran
1.0 to 1.2ec is fine for a plant that size as long as it's just a balanced feed which makes it up. I've never found plants need more as they get bigger, which tells you a lot about their metabolism and how the root system works. My seedlings start on 1.0ec and they don't need any more than that when they're big bushes. As the root system grows the ability of the plant to gather food grows with it. The actual concentration of food in the water doesn't need to be any stronger, they just need feeding more frequently as they drink more.

It could be wind stress, light/heat stress, ph sensitivity, or some strains just start life like that while others thrive. Make sure there's no wind aimed or water being sprayed directly on it. Aim the fan at the bulb not the plant. Drop the additives and run just 1.0ec of veg feed.
 

Jydcoo

Member
1/4 of the way Folks. Glorious Day. Everyone have a Safe and happy 4th
 

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Running a few strains in a EbbnFlow with straight coco with the pH perfect sensi coco. About a week in and things look great with no pH adjustment! Just so happens that I busted the probe on my meter right before setting up the rez so can only guess were my pH may be. Im guessing 6.2. I do add a little calmg to the mix in tell I bumb up the base dose. I run it at 400ppm at first then up to 800-1000 after week 3 and keep it there in tell the flush.
 

Jydcoo

Member
FreedomTRAIL, glad to have a fellow PH perf throw the insight.
On my end, no issues other than the beg problems during seedling stage. I am Happy happy with my Results thus far. Colors have to be a Strain characteristic for me. She is Happy. More pics on Monday.
Bless
 
Looks good. Do I see a banana? A little over though. The leaf twisting is telling me over.
I hope not...I've been on the lookout sense I have no idea what the strain is or if it's stable...so far so good! The twisting must be the nutes because it does it to some extent on everything I'm using those nutes on. Not sure if I will run them again, I had really nice results with the Jungle Juice 2 part and its a quarter of the price. I got the pH perfect stuff free to try, otherwise I would not be using it.
 

angusnaut

New member
Angusnaut*. He said It was not enough and It seems fit. 5 ML per Gallon did not Make PH perfect Do its Magic. Trust Me I am 600 PPMs, RO water. Cal Mag to 150-200, Then my A+B to 460-500 or so. Voodoo, Sensizym, B-52 to 600.
No nute Burn at all. BD wants more. Look at her color

well I cant say why the PH isn't right... :confused:

But Id say your locking out nutes if your feeding at 600ppms already. I feed at 600ppms at the mid-end of my veg sometimes Ill give them around 800ppms if they show that they need it. But I've found ppm is almost irrelevant. you need an EC meter.
 

Jydcoo

Member
Well Sorry for the few days Of delay Peeps. A Little Update: I have ZERO complaints on this Lady right below us. The NL BLUE is just on point to me. I am currently feeding her at 800 PPMs ( Bluelab), Every 2 Days with about 6 Liters of Water. Yes a Waste of water, but I want shit to be As perfect as possible my first Coco run. I Flushed my BD due to her Light leaf colors, flushed with 500 PPMs. It seems to have Bounced back, but new growth still has The same effect going, wish I had a better camera to show you guys.
I keep thinking zinc Def. Idk, I flushed and Will Feed Low again with a Flush next water. Same schedule as NL Blue. I did Feed the BD a PPM of 1050 and Got a SLIGHT burn. So Slight I barely noticed it, So I may Just flush her Really well with a 400 PPM and then Last gallon or so make it 900 PPMs.
I think she is Strong though, I mean look at her :)
More Updates Next week
Bless
 

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