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GonjaLove

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GonjaLove

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Hey coconutz...so I've been feeding these ladies in coco every other day for the last week or so...starting to see some slight improvement...but these things are like a month old and 3" tall...are they gonna come back or were they too far gone
 

Coconutz

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They arent too far gone.
Its gonna take them a while to get going though.
Once they have some new foliage they will take off
 

mouts

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reverse osmosis water contains little to no dissolved solids so it can absorb minerals and nutrients from ur medium leading to deficiencies. Filtering water is only necessary if u live in a hard water area. Hope this helps.
 

GonjaLove

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They arent too far gone.
Its gonna take them a while to get going though.
Once they have some new foliage they will take off

I am starting to see some new growth and it seems a little pale still...do u EVER use calmag? Ever ever? How about foliar feeding? Or just keep it simple and stay with the 6/9
 

Coconutz

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No need to foliar feed or supplement 6/9 with anything.
Keep it simple until you have a steady run or two under your belt
I just spray with spinosad/silica and dip the whole plant(not roots) in neem.
I also water with some azamax here and there before flower.
 

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.are they gonna come back or were they too far gone

In 3 weeks time they'll be massive if you do the right things.

If you gave them to me like that, exactly what I'd do is dig them up out of the pot now by grabbing a handful of the root ball from underneath, fill the bag to the brim, then re plant with the stem buried right up a cm below the first leaves.

What that'll do is encourage the stem itself to sprout roots and become thick, meaning you've got no spindly stem like you have now, and the resulting growth will be much stronger and thicker.

Then keep feeding them 1.0ec of fert and watch them fly.
 

Coconutz

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It looks like theres already enough room in the pot to just burry the stem up to the first leaves.
How far is the light?
Any T8s around somewhere?
 

papaduc

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If there is, just do that, but if not, set them a bit deeper.

What's the npk on the 6/9 btw?

It's ok I've just read it. I'd go 50:50 on the micro and bloom myself, in fact I'd go 9/6 for a feed or two for a boost of nitrogen. That's if you're following that formula. What I'm using would be the equivalent of more micro than bloom, then I just switch it round in flower. Health and vigour is better on a high nitrogen feed through veg imo.
 

Coconutz

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N 97
P 60
K 105
Mg 41
S 27
Ca 97

adding 1 g/gal epsom salts to the solution changes the numbers for mg and s to:
Mg 67
S 61

Ive never done any of the calculations myself and dont even use it at full strength.
These are the numbers H3ad worked out...
Im not even sure if it includes his starting water, or just the numbers from gh.
All I know is it works for my plants in all stages of growth without supplements.
I dont really even bother with pk boosts. They always seem to burn and I dont wanna back off the base nutes.
 

papaduc

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Ok. It's a pretty balanced feed then. If you're running 1.2ec right through flower, you could replace 0.2ec of the base with 0.2 pk no problem, see what you think of that. I'd probably even drop the base to 0.8 and take it to 1.0 with the pk. If they stay green on that there's no need for any more N.
 

Coconutz

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1.0 seems to be a bit light on the N in late flower.
They seem to veg fine with 1.0 though.
Ive experimented with pk blasts and also just upping the bloom bottle 3ml.
So far my best results have been just 6/9 until they look done and then just giving ro with a little tap for 3 days.
Tastes great and looks a lot better than they do when flushed 2 weeks. Stays sticky...
They bud leaves seem to consume themselves with a longer pure water "leach/flush"
 

papaduc

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I think a 2 week flush is too long as well. If you're not overfeeding then the plant should pale within days of dropping the nutes. Longer than that and I think you're depriving them of food at a vital time. I think a lot of people get away with long flushes because their ec is high in the first place and subsequent plain water feeds spend a week just diluting the nutes already in the coco.
 

GonjaLove

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Also...9/6 is gonna bump my ec up to like 1.3ish so should I just dilute down to 1.0? I also see some green on the perlite and a little here and there on the top of the coco which im guessing is algae. Something to worry about?
 

Coconutz

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Also...9/6 is gonna bump my ec up to like 1.3ish so should I just dilute down to 1.0? I also see some green on the perlite and a little here and there on the top of the coco which im guessing is algae. Something to worry about?

its 6ml of Micro 9ml of Bloom.
9/6 would probably turn them black
 
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