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Wild Ruderalis from Austria

cannanaut

Active member
Very nice field spontanea.

Have you tried to make BHO or RSO from it? I am pretty sure you can make quality medicine out of some nice flowers.

Sterile phenos are often good for hash and may have very funky smells.

Bro spontanea, this tread is so refreshing. :) Thank you for sharing! Grüß Gott :tiphat:
 

spontanea

New member
Unfortunately I cannot do breeding myself right now but I am still collecting alot of seeds to have a genetic workbase...
For the concentrates te problem is that 99,5% of plants are full of seeds but I might try with sterile plants, we'll see in Oktober for that because right now only a little percentage of the population is flowering and only seeded plants, the good thing with those sterile plants is that they are putting all energy into big buds instead of seeds that they have much larger buds and are easy to spot.



Thank you cannanaut, this field is very refreshing to me ^^ and I thought I could share this with the Internet ;)
 

bf80255

Member
I dont know for sure but i guess ill be the first to raise the B.S flag and call this one out, those plants and buds look far to commercially influenced to be a wild hemp population imo looks like somebodies guerilla grow they forgot to pull the males from.
 

spontanea

New member
Well it realy doesn't look realy commercial to me, which one looks commercial to you? The general type is very different from potent strains and fiber/seed hemp, look at the leaves, most plants have 3 bladed leaves and single bladed leaves... As you are from Cali I imagine you have never seen ruderalis growing wild and I am ready to accept your doubts but "it looks to commercial" is not a very good argument, what do you mean by to commercial?
 

harry74

Active member
Veteran
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/7-plants-plant-extracts/4634-cannabis-ruderalis-czech-republic.html

In this link you have pics of Moravia Czech Republic.

They look more uniform to me than your pics.

It doesn´t look wild to me either,; look like mixed genetics, different colours too. I don´t know, may be someone used to grow around, some pollen from somewhere.

You need a CSI team to find the true, I´m afraid.
ADN análisis and all the shit.

I saw once, and Arjan´s Ultra Haze#3 pheno with the same leaf shape, but that was many years ago...:tiphat:
 

Only Ornamental

Spiritually inspired agnostic mad scientist
Veteran
Thanks for the link. Though, they're not uniform either ;) . But high variability means better survival of the population and is somewhat 'a thing' feral cannabis has LoL. BTW, different colours don't mean anything.
Anyway, both populations (that one here and the one from Moravia) seem to contain individuals which are high in THC which implies cross-contamination with drug type varieties (C. indica) because C. sativa (aka hemp) is supposed to be from the CBD chemotype. Hybridisation may be quite recent or date back hundreds of years, only Abby Sciuto could tell :D .

No matter the true origin, it IS feral hemp/cannabis and I still think it's a great thread. *Yeah! More pics!*
 

spontanea

New member
harry74 : If you look at the second page of your link, I quote "While I was there I had a chance to pore through dozens and dozens of individual plants. You would be quite surprised at the variation." And Moravia is 100km form the place I found. I have found Ruderalis my whole life in different countrys of western Europe and it is never homogenous and every little population is a bit different : in places where there is tall concurent plants, over decades nature will select taller phenotypes... If I posted this one it is because after examination it is the most variable population I have ever seen and many traits here don't exist in any commercial strain so...

But I find it very enoying to have to prove to you that, you obviously don't live in western Europe, because ruderalis grows in many places here, it is nothing special and what do you mean by "it doesn't look wild"? what do you know about wild cannabis anyway? If you mean the plant with big buds, that is a very unusual one, the reason it is so big is because it is sterile and didn't produce any seeds (sinsemilla), if you polinate a commercial strain, buds are much smaller too than a seedless one...
 

harry74

Active member
Veteran
Sorry If I have offended you a bit I was just kidding a bit; I´m a bit spontaneous:biggrin:. I life in western europe (spain)but there is not spontaneous/wild ruderalis around here, you have nice poppy do, on the southern área ( granada,cordoba) this does grow spontaneously every year. I had once an infusión and I have to say it was "conoisseur stuff".

About the rudies... to be honest I don´t care if is wild, domesticated or cloned. Just it doesn´t look to me wild, but if it makes you happy OK, you win man, you have discovered a new land race and Arjan&Franco going to Africa/Caribean/Asia.... and it was here, no far you know!!!

Enjoy yourself, have a laugh about me, and smile man, smile.
:tiphat:
 

spontanea

New member
Don't worry, not offendable ^^ I just didn't understand why I had to prove that there is rudi around here... I'll try to take more pics
 

St. Phatty

Active member
@ RoadRash : yes the Autoflowering gene is also present, a very small percentage have already seeds in June while the latest start flowering end of august, this gene was combined to potent genetics to produce commercial auto-flowering strains. And yes the most of the plants are not realy potent but some are.
@ Only Ornamental : are you from Austria? ^^ I am sorry I cannot tell you where this field is exactly as it is unlike any other one I've seen and I'd like to protect it but I can tell you on the west side of the Neusiedlersee if you look around the vineyards you will find ruderalis but they grow spontaneously on different places every year...

That's cool, Cannabis in Austria ! I been there once.

The seed banks have some seed makers with a lot of auto strains, and in their desription they make it sound like Killer Weed.

I guess I'll just wait till I hear people on ICMag raving about an auto. Which they probably already are, I just have to read those threads.


I remember a strain people used to write about, Mighty Mite, there's even a thread about it here at ICMag
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=166314


Anyway, with all the amazing strains and seed varieties coming out, it's natural for people to cross GG or Cookies or whichever other killer cut, with a Ruderalis influenced strain, and to get a respectable result.

I haven't ever needed the autoflower but heck that trait could come in real handy.


Does that mean it's not easy to re-veg a Ruderalis-influenced strain, like it's 'stuck' in flowering & doesn't want to go back into veg or something ?
 

bf80255

Member
Sorry to come off with such an inflammatory post i was just trying to smoke you out if you were a troll :)
By commercial i meant they seem to produce very full buds compared ro evwry other ruderalis subspecies ive ever seen, i also breed autoflowering plants and the size of those plants is a bit large imo as well.
The fact that they get you high is also an indication of some drug strain cross in there and if its autoflowerimg then it just leads me to beleive even more so that they have been bred that way (nit necessarily) just my 2 cents
If that is indeed a wild population congrats bro thats an amazing find and i hope youve got some good seedstock from those little beauties
 

spontanea

New member
@ St. phatty : about reveging, the autoflowering trait is only present in a little percentage of the plants but I guess the ones with this trait can't be reveged... I should also add that there is agradient from autoflowering, early flowering and even very late flowering.
 

MadMountainDan

New member
Hi,
I think that IC Mag is great.
Anytime that people can discuss any aspect of any plant and
come together to understand nature is very good.
I saw on a site "Wild Spontanea" a Ruderalis species that was for
sale on that site.
It stated that it was a perennial (please forgive my spelling).
The same plants come up every year and if you left a bunch of seedlings
and come back years later that it would just be filled with plants.
My computer crashed that night and all was lost.
It was just last week.
I just cant find out who has these seeds for sale.
I know that kcBrains has a Spontanea Sativa for sale but the ad
stated "Wild Spontanea" as the name.
Ive looked and looked but came up empty.
I thought it was cool that there was a species that wasnt an annual.
@Ornamental or spontanea - do you know if this seed is for sale and
who carries it?
Or anyone in the IC community that can help me I would appreciate it.
Thank you.
 

bf80255

Member
The strain your referring to is big bad john by the doggie nuts seeds and im pretty sure its all hype almost any photo plant will be a perennial if you reveg after flower and shield it from frost till the following season
 
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