Root Aphids in 2500 plant LEGAL Washington Grow

[GanjaFarmerNW]

All the shit talking and yet only one person was able to correctly identify a single species of insects that I posted pictures of.

What was pictured was fungus gnats and red mites. We thought that we had RA because of the emergence and similiarity of the red mites. We thought the fungus gnats may be winged aphids because they also look similar.

Thanks to everyone who actually tried to help,
And good look with the internet trolling to everybody else

 

[vapor]

and as it turns out, they were fungus gnats. Look at the pictures. We were concerned that they may have been winged root aphids. Which they are not.

didnt notice the photobucket link at first. the first pic if i would have seen it i would have said looks like fungus gnat on the yellow sticky. You can take it like shit talkin but that not what i am meaning....

ps: you are fast hehehe you reply was as i was stoned editing my reply.....

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Big Respect Greyskull

Often times in this emerging industry you find Investors who have no idea, hiring people who have no Idea...

It seems this is the case with GanjaPharmaNW...

Root Aphids to Fungus Gnats to Root Aphids...

Hopefully next week they aren't dealing with Broad Mites.

Merit 75WP and other Imidacloprid products are EXTREMELY long lasting in their half life...They do work.

However, Spirotetramat , Has been shown to be out of the Soil in 24 Hours

And as effective, if not more.

 

[GanjaFarmerNW]

Alright BYF, thanks for your input.

 

[Morcheeba*]

http://www.bugladyconsulting.com/

EDIT: is Cannabis a crop that is covered by crop protection insurance in legal med states? if not are there any discussion of including it in the near future.


peace

 

[steadydets]

I dont know why you guys keep trying to make it sound as if I had no idea what was going on. But thats fine, I would be jealous of my job if I were on your end as well.

Internet Connection - 60 dollars a month


Tablet - 200 dollars

Realizing your a narcissist because you assume strangers on the internet are jealous of your lifestyle


Priceless...

 

[GanjaFarmerNW]

No, my lifestyle sucks. I get paid just enough to survive and work 65 hour weeks.

 

[GanjaFarmerNW]

Okay guys,

Sorry ive been so snipity. I honestly didnt come here to have a pissing contest, but thats what i turned it into. I will admitt, it is frustrating when looking for help to have so many people rag on me, with knowing little to nothing about my situation outside of my pest issues. I do conceede i flew off the handle over stupid things, but I am under an immense amount of stress to make this sinking ship float across a wide ocean. Im doing the best I can.

So im dumb, or my owner is dumb, or maybe not. That all aside, thanks for all the input. I have further researched into nearly every option mentioned here.

It is looking like we do NOT have RA, but we do have population of red mites and fungas gnats. We will be taking the following actions to rectify:

1st and 2nd watering:
-beauveria bassiana drench

we will also use pyrethrin bombs after these waterings


from there we will asses our situation. We have deceided to take all neem related products out of the rotation for the next little while due to our overuse in the past.


Again, thank you to all who helped, and apologies to everyone I flamed.

 

[yortbogey]

everybody...needs too simmer down in hear... I can only ask that the OP....be so kind as too acknowledge the fact...he came hear looking for help.... and believe U me...
there are sum SERIOUS professionals speaking in this very thread...well beyond that of post counts... and college education.... I'm talking guys that paid there dues year after year...crop after crop.... and failure after failure... i know often WE as canna snobs can come across VERY strong/ and sharp...like a good knife.... BUT believe me... there is reason...
this place is hollowed ground for sum folks.... people that have worked this plant from probably before U was born..., So please give us a little slack for defending a subject most all {including U } hold dear too our heart and soul...

myself...I got educated @ EVERGREEN in there organic program... over 10yrs ago...but i don't throw that around either....

remember this is the Internet, and everyone thinks bigger than the next...
I can only hope U see sum off the truth that exist in these digital walls....

before u pass such judgment on it's members, and offerings...

and yes...when U show up brand new.... w/ 2000 plants, and all the toys in a WA dream job.... people will notice... people will talk shit... and people will still go on about there business...

hope this thread can find its way back to reason, and necessity

 

[GanjaFarmerNW]

I never once took issue with peoples legitimate suggestions. I do take issue with people who say I should be replaced.

 

[BagAppeal]

I have had some great result using hydrogen peroxide from a.n mixed at 7ml per liter.
It might not work for you, but it has stopped some serious infections before for me, after everything else was tried.
It will kill some good stuff if you are growing organic, but in the long run it could be worth it if you get rid of your problem. I think I applied it every other day, everywhere..
If someone disagree, or have any experience with the same solution, please chime in.
Wish you the best of luck, and hope it works out!

All the best

BagAppeal

 

[SirStynkalot]

One more thing.

Application rates for pyrethrin bombs are one a week for 3 weeks I believe. Not sure what the drench is. Plan for three bombs, not two (if you can safely in time), and read the drench instruction sheet carefully. Make sure they both take care of everything you need them to. Triple check your work the first time around and you really will want to clear out the rooms and fully sterilize as soon as you can.

Good luck! And do yourself a favor and hire an experienced grow consultant as soon as you can afford it, preferably out of colorado. They have a bit more experience in that area than we do. Local for building and code, CO for growing.

 

[hup234]

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[Croptober]

My bad I simply misread I didn't see the ROOT part. And sirstynks eat shit, I'm sure you have misread 1 or 2 things in life so don't act like your shit don't smell. Ganjafarmer I hope you find your solution soon.

 

[amannamedtruth]

Neematodes FTW

 

[Granger2]

OGBioWar is in the process of getting approval/labeling as an insecticide. Most, if not all the strains it contains have been approved for organic production in other products. Currently it is being sold as an inoculant.

Aren't those tail pipes on the 3rd photo?

I can't advise you on WA's regulations, but I can tell you anecdotally that OGBioWar works for RA's and FG's.

Another method for finding soil pests is to put a 1" thick slice of raw potato on the surface of the medium, check it in 48 hours. This may be labor intensive, but no where near as labor intensive as removing a plant from it's container. It's cheap, and I think it would go pretty fast. Good luck. -granger

 

[nomaad]

Its not a small op. Lots of work figuring it out at that scale. I jumped into a commercial medical game with a lot less skills and got caught with my pants down a few times when things were at its craziest. Running a tight operation, complete with vetted clones takes a marketplace full of competent, reliable providers of services and materials.

In WA, there is plenty to worry about that doesn't even have anything to do with the plant. Compliance with seed to sale tracking and video monitoring regs... 3 strikes and its all for naught.

Fungus gnats are relatively easy. One and done. Organically and reliably in very large, wet daily flooded and drained systems with serious infestations.

Root aphids are a more serious problem and a responsible provider of safe cannabis has some serious decisions to make.

 

[nomaad]

I figure it had to have been posted already in regard to controlling this if its fungus gnats but i scrolled up and must have missed it. BTi. Bacillus Thurigensis israeliensis. In soil its part of my original build and ongoing system. In hydro, its part of a constant biological program that keeps things just the right kind of foamy.

 

[nomaad]

Those don't all look like fungus gnats. Got any new photos?

 

[SirStynkalot]

Yeah now that Nomaad mentions it they really don't. I'm not used to looking at them up close but I thought they were fatter. Didn't want to say anything since my pest identification process is so incredibly scientific. I'm not really prepared to give advice on identification.

Pyrethrin bombs kill most above ground stuff. If he bombs regularly he should get most of the adults regardless of species. Bacteria tends to be species-specific and pyrethrin bombs won't get everything in the dirt. He's gonna have a hard time with juveniles and some might escape the purge if his drench is bacteria based but not targeted to their species.

If it's root zone AFAIK root gnats are the only things that aren't a big problem. I'm not very familiar with root eaters.

More pics please? It might help confirm or deny.