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WHAT TO DO!? My entire crop hermied post-power outage

Bush Dr

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You don't say where you are but if it's in a place where MJ can grow OK outdoors then you've just got some pollen drawn into your grow

I've had this happen a few times and I'm in the UK, not renowned for its super grow weather, but somewhere a few miles away there's a male flowering and you got some pollen

You can usually clone OK as the mother is a female, as previously stated there's no sign of male flowers or nanas

The weed will be fine to smoke, just not as good as sensi
 
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Team microbe's original question was 'what to do with my seeded plants'? I think there was a consistent opinion from everyone on that. TM seemed to be convinced that the seeds produced were a result of a power outage and lighting schedule change at week 2, resulting in immature seeds at week 4. This is much too quick for male flowers to form, throw pollen and make seeds of any size, I would think? My question to anyone is this; can a stressed plant make seeds without first making male flowers/pollen?

I think TM should be concerned more about what caused the plants to produce seeds in the first place, thinking of the next grow.
 

Team Microbe

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Team microbe's original question was 'what to do with my seeded plants'? I think there was a consistent opinion from everyone on that. TM seemed to be convinced that the seeds produced were a result of a power outage and lighting schedule change at week 2, resulting in immature seeds at week 4. This is much too quick for male flowers to form, throw pollen and make seeds of any size, I would think? My question to anyone is this; can a stressed plant make seeds without first making male flowers/pollen?

I think TM should be concerned more about what caused the plants to produce seeds in the first place, thinking of the next grow.

Male flowers never did form, that's what caught me off guard. I wasn't aware hermies could form from stress alone, but that's what appears to have happened. Unless a male flower fell off and magically evaporated into thin air, there aren't any in there. I've read this can come from stress alone, and I think that's what happened.
 

Team Microbe

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Must be all for money. Only a non smoker would consider trashing a plant 4 weeks into flower. If your in it for the money just say so.... not a big deal:)

Finish em and hash em. Most breeders prefer seeded weed. I like it as well:) your hash will be good....

Must not be, I'm a sufferer of PTSD and without cannabis I can't get a wink of sleep at night. If it were all for money, don't you think I'd be running more than 11 plants? :laughing:

This is strictly for medicine, I'm a part of the probiotic farmer's alliance and we don't put the words greed and cannabis in the same sentence. Anyone growing for money is in this for the wrong reasons and the cannabis Gods will NOT smile down on you for very long...
 

Team Microbe

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Seeds dont magically form from stress.
If stress causes the plant to grow male flowers, it can pollinate itself.
The light turning off for a few hours during the flower cycle isnt going to stress the plants at all 0% stress!
Its more like a break in the shade on a hot day...
There are other issues here...
Youre going to have to do some reading to get a grasp on this growing thing.
Its going to come with some growing pains and youre going to have to learn as you go.
I suggest you start taking a look at all the little things in the grow that might have caused the male flower/nanner somewhere in your room.
You want to look for either open male flowers, or light green claws(nanners) hanging out in the room.

I've read a lot of reputable books and have been doing this for 10 years, this is the first time running into hermies. I did get the seeds from a UK grower, but he was confident in them and his garden shows nothing but sensi so I'm ruling that out of the question. If there are no nanners in the tent, could pollen have got through a HEPA filter you think? I just can't understand how this could have happened... my grow has been straight sensi for 8 years but it IS outdoor season over here... if someone didn't catch a male they were growing that would be devastating.
 

mack 10

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smoking seeded bud (or bud with seeds plucked out with seed sacks still in them) gives you the worst headache you can ask for... I've done it before and regret doing it every time. You don't wanna smoke that stuff man, trust me.


maybe smoking seeds will give you a headache but it's not the bud. I've just grown some AAA Chem bud's that where slightly seeded.
Also everyone who smoked Columbian, Mexican or whatever landrace will also tell you the same.
 

Team Microbe

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maybe smoking seeds will give you a headache but it's not the bud. I've just grown some AAA Chem bud's that where slightly seeded.
Also everyone who smoked Columbian, Mexican or whatever landrace will also tell you the same.

it's the seed pods/seeds in the bud that provides the headache... and weeding out 10,000 seed pods isn't in my to-do list anytime soon :laughing:

And no offense but if your bud was seeded then that's not what you would call AAA bud. At least not around here...
 

Team Microbe

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My main concern here guys is that my girls are now diverting energy into seed-production rather than resin-production. To my understanding that's what happens when plants turn hermie... please correct me if I'm wrong
 

BlazinPurps

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You definitely have pollen in that room from somewhere seeds do not just birth themselves from stress. I had some SinMint Cookies herm, they were packed with seeds and I still got a 24% yield in a BHO extraction. I imagine resin production slows but not enough to worry about tossing a whole crop especially since you said its personals. If your that bummed about the seeds then toss it and move on but I would keep it if it was me.
 
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The bud size will be affected more than thc production.

You can try BOG's method of leaving them on a dark room 2-3 days before harvest. You will notice increased resin production.

Yes it works, no I'm not crazy. Yet.
 

rives

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As others have said, you've got something else going on - that little disruption in the light cycle is very unlikely to have caused any problems. Have you got any light leaks that weren't a factor before you changed your lighting schedule?

Regarding seeded weed - that is all that we used to smoke. Sinsemilla (seedless) weed is a pretty late arrival in the history of mj. While it isn't nearly as salable, it smokes just fine.
 

blastfrompast

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Seeds do NOT form without pollen.....and at week 4 to have swollen seeds at that stage...ur tent got pollinated RIGHT off the bat....It doesn't take many male flowers to polinate a 8x12 room especially with fans moving the air around....

I had this happen many moons ago...Make hash...make edibles....blast it loose (don't crush the seeds)...QWISO... Me I would make 4xCanabutter or coco-cana-oil.....QP per 500ml oil...easier to dose if your medical...
 

greenpinky

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Lol.. u musta had a bunch of hermies to pollinate ur hole grow...ur prob going to half to clean out ur tent cuz that much pollen stays around for a bit..look on the bright side now u have a bunch of seeds to eat or grow...but from my experience to seed that much there was a bunch of hermies...
 

dontstepongrass

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yea bro, u can def hash it all. been there done that with hermie crops on more than one occasion... it's a kick to the balls, but the hash is just as good quality wise.

so flower it out, hash that shit for ur personal head stash, and be more vigilant in the future. you'll be ok
 

Team Microbe

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yea bro, u can def hash it all. been there done that with hermie crops on more than one occasion... it's a kick to the balls, but the hash is just as good quality wise.

so flower it out, hash that shit for ur personal head stash, and be more vigilant in the future. you'll be ok

Thanks bud, I'll do just that. I need to find the source of the problem soon though, preferably before the next round goes in. I wonder if there was male pollen floating around outside because none of the girls had nanners...
 

Team Microbe

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As others have said, you've got something else going on - that little disruption in the light cycle is very unlikely to have caused any problems. Have you got any light leaks that weren't a factor before you changed your lighting schedule?

Regarding seeded weed - that is all that we used to smoke. Sinsemilla (seedless) weed is a pretty late arrival in the history of mj. While it isn't nearly as salable, it smokes just fine.

I did have a slight light leak through my tent windows, I was wondering the very same thing actually. It's barely enough to see my hoods with when I'm inside the tent with lights off, it doesn't shin on my girls but I'm afraid this is more than enough to set off a herm reaction.


If it was indeed a light leak, is male pollen still needed to cause everything to herm like it did? I just can't find one banana anywhere, so this is confusing me as everyone's saying I must have pollen somewhere in there. There hasn't been a male in the room since it was re-built, so it had to have come from outside if there is pollen in there. Ugh, bare with me because this is frustrating!
 

Greyskull

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maybe its the genes in the seeds you got there...
and thats not blaming homie who made them


what are they?
 

redlaser

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I've smoked some brick weed import that gave me a mild headache long ago, but I wouldn't blame that on the seeds. The seeds are a result of pollen being present, most likely from an undetected male flower a couple weeks ago. Stress by itself isn't enough to make a seed. Four hours of lights off isn't enough to stress and hermi, IMO. I recently switched from flowering during the day to flowering at night for heat reasons, at day thirty with seven strains with no hermi issues.(switched three weeks ago)
 
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