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Wanted - Ruderalis
- Thread starter vostok
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From what Ive read it will have poor cannabinoid production compared to wild ruders.
What you need is to find a feild of wild auto's and pick the best pheno's with high quality resin.
Auto plants can be found not just in Europe but all over, Tittoon even found them in India.
You go straight down to Siberia and you pick up some seed. It's full of plants almost everywhere.... it's a kind of joke...
All that weed sux. In the '70 they thought that "ruderalis" was a rare strain but it's not.
It's just the most common landrace in the ex-URSS territory.
All that weed sux. In the '70 they thought that "ruderalis" was a rare strain but it's not.
It's just the most common landrace in the ex-URSS territory.
go for the real seed company and get something from the highlands of nepal.. nepalese or nanda devi .. the nepalese is a cultivated hash line but some wild pollenation happens.. the nanda devi is a bit more 'wild' looking .. they had junglis ( which is what they call the real uncultivated stuff ) a few months ago but they don't carry them anymore
flameninja
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Im also trying to source some true Wild Ruder,and yes i know its not a good smoke as it is but Imo would make a great breeding tool.
ellis110100100
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Vostok: I'd have to agree with ahortator. Besides traveling Finola is probably your best bet. I grew some out a few years ago and did TLC tests. it had low levels of all cannabinoids (<1% THC / CBD ) but in an even 1:1 ratio.
I got the seeds from Vancouver seed bank but they've been out of stock for a long time.
I got the seeds from Vancouver seed bank but they've been out of stock for a long time.
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That shop is way overpriced!
For $ 20 you can buy a kg Finola plus shipping and handling at any Finnish organic food store...
Apropos Finola, it's not an autoflowering in the proper sense and neither a ruderalis, it's a very early flowering short hemp variety originating from Central Russia. The main difference with 'auto's' is, that this trait is recessive, Finola is rather dominant (it's a quantitative trait, which is IMO easier for breeding). The F1 I had wasn't great but not that bad either but the F2 I tried was really nice
. Well, the smell is somewhat unique and I don't like it that much... like roasted hazelnut oil.
If you really want to go with Finola, check out THIS thread and there's also the one in my signature about hemp and breeding with it .
For $ 20 you can buy a kg Finola plus shipping and handling at any Finnish organic food store...
Apropos Finola, it's not an autoflowering in the proper sense and neither a ruderalis, it's a very early flowering short hemp variety originating from Central Russia. The main difference with 'auto's' is, that this trait is recessive, Finola is rather dominant (it's a quantitative trait, which is IMO easier for breeding). The F1 I had wasn't great but not that bad either but the F2 I tried was really nice
. Well, the smell is somewhat unique and I don't like it that much... like roasted hazelnut oil.If you really want to go with Finola, check out THIS thread and there's also the one in my signature about hemp and breeding with it
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In my situation this trait makes breeding a shit load more difficult and time consuming. I wouldn't say it's useless for breeding but it kind of ruined it for me. If the autoflower trait was resessive I could lock it in after only two generations. The plants either flower outdoors, or they don't. These gawd damn quantitative rudies flower when they please and it probably takes years to reach any stability in flowering times.
flameninja
Active member
Im a Guerilla grower at a northern lat, i like to make my own crosses and have had some success with Autos and photos so far. If i find some that aren't "fully" auto then that doesn't bother me although it would be a bonus
Its the "wild" aspect what atracts me,the fact it can adapt to harsh conditions etc.
The search continues.....
Its the "wild" aspect what atracts me,the fact it can adapt to harsh conditions etc.
The search continues.....
Finola adapts well and can really take a punch but it's anything but wild... actually, it's one of the most homogeneous registered hemp varieties.
A big advantage of Finola over standard 'autos' is that it doesn't stop growing once in flowering.
I like the quantitative trait, it leads faster to success (apparent, not stable success ) and one can play a bit more with it. Real 'autos' are just on or off... you're right, Thule, the 'auto' trait is fixed and locked after two generations like the THC v.s. CBD chemotypes are. But I'm only at the F2 of my Finola adventure and things may still go sideways... *tough-wood*
A big advantage of Finola over standard 'autos' is that it doesn't stop growing once in flowering.
I like the quantitative trait, it leads faster to success (apparent, not stable success
) and one can play a bit more with it. Real 'autos' are just on or off... you're right, Thule, the 'auto' trait is fixed and locked after two generations like the THC v.s. CBD chemotypes are. But I'm only at the F2 of my Finola adventure and things may still go sideways... *tough-wood*
flameninja
Active member
Anyone got any info about "fibrimon".
That question would be better posed in a non-landrace thread such as the Hemp Seed Hub which is meant as platform for exactly this kind of questionsAnyone got any info about "fibrimon".
.Now, Fibrimon is anything but a 'ruderalis'. It's the first true monoecious variety...
I have two of the original publications (as pdf, not actually something antique) by R. von Sengbusch which are written in French and German, respectively. Though, they give not too much useful informations regarding how to grow it...
It's based on 'Schurig' hemp (or one of the varieties bred by Dr. Schurig near Berlin, Germany) and was further selected in the French pyrenees. The ancestors or 'Schurig' hemp are said to be either a hybrid of northern and southern Russian hemp or of central Russian hemp... difficult to figure out the truth as this story was 'written' (actually, people didn't write too much) prior to the world wars...
I'm surprised no one has mentioned midwestern American ditchweed. It is not central Asian ruderalis but feral hemp growing wild for many generations. The archaic varieties of cultivated hemp that make up ditchweed come from all over the globe. The genetics must be amazingly diverse and the plants really are as tough as weeds. After all they have managed to survive year after year of brutal attack by the DEA. I would love to get my hands on some ditchweed seed.
