GMO cannabis

[harry74]

With all your science can you tell how it is,
and whence it is,
that light comes into the soul?


THOREAU

 

[foomar]

What do you think of this non GM breeding technique that uses gene markers , any objections ?

In the past, plant breeders were essentially blind to the inner workings of plants. To understand how traits were passed along from plant to plant, they had to actually breed the plants, grow them and wait to see the results.

With the benefit of modern science, breeders can now “see” inside the plants they intend to breed. Using a technique called “marker-assisted breeding,” our plant scientists can examine the DNA of seeds to find the ones that will produce the best plants. First, genetic “markers” are identified in plants’ DNA that are linked to important traits such as disease resistance, drought tolerance, yield, taste, nutrition, etc. The markers are then used like a test to screen all of the plants available for breeding and accurately select and breed only the seeds that will produce plants with the desirable traits.

Our seed chippers allow us to determine the genetics of a seed without destroying the seed itself. The chipper sorts and rotates a seed so a tiny tissue sample can be shaved off to be analysed. If that seed contains the genetic traits we desire, the seed is still viable, so a breeder can plant it in a field test and use it in the breeding process to create more seeds of its kind.

Using technologies and scientific knowledge of today and applying it to the age-old practice of breeding allows us to find the best-of-the-best germplasm, or genetics, and get high-performing seeds to farmers’ fields – faster. Compared to conventional breeding, our breeding program today is doubling the rate of improvement in key genetic characteristics such as yield and important agronomic traits, which can help agriculture become more sustainable.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

What do you think of this non GM breeding technique that uses gene markers , any objections ?

I think studing the Cannabis genome and using marker assisted breeding that is then done with classical breeding is great. I have zero problems with it. The more science that can shine on Cannabis the better. I know this will help change breeding world wide, not only with Cannabis. It is not creating anything GMO, it is using DNA molecular screening using RAPD, AFLP, SCAR, SSR, markers associated with traits or chemotype, or sex like the MADC1 - MADC6.
How can you know to much? It will assist Cannabis breeders in the future to eliminate viruses and other disease and help avoid intersex traits or genes. Genome maping of varieties could show relatedness of varieties, or that clone varieties under different names are in fact the same clone. Terpene analysis can do that pretty well right now. The world will change, Cannabis breeding will change. A little over a generation ago there were no all female Cannabis seeds, no Autoflower varieties, no CBD only varieties or really anything besides THC varieties, all that has changed.
Good or bad, the future is now. I hope you can grow them organically in the future, rich in terpenes.
-SamS

 

[GrassMan]

Sorry if someone post it before... interesting read
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14571756/The-Biotechnology-of-Cannabis-sativa
Peace

 

[Halonium]

There is a 2nd edition of that book available.. published 2014.

 

[foomar]

I think studing the Cannabis genome and using marker assisted breeding that is then done with classical breeding is great. I have zero problems with it

That's my conclusion fwiw , though its definitely not GM it will probably still worry some people simply because it is a high tec process compared to traditional.

Interesting that I quoted it straight from Monsantos site.

They have apparently given up on GM for the European market and will use their genetic techniques in a less controversial way , the site is worth a read even if you still consider them the spawn of Satan.


Zwengers book was an interesting read but I think he may have over simplified the process , one of the pictures is definitely wrong.

A short critique from someone who really knows the subject would be appreciated.

Looks to me like B C seeds read this book and based their bullshit claims on it.


Is their any truth in this statement ?

I doubt any light will penetrate a dead , opaque seed shell.

An indoor gardener can use this principle to initiate flowering even in a light cycle of 14 or more hours. During the dark period of a plant’s life, they can be given a brief pulse of red light. This changes the Pr type into the Pfr form and allows flowering to begin. Interestingly, these same phytochrome proteins play a crucial role in seed germination.

For instance, the Pfr form of phytochrome allows germination to proceed. Therefore, if one is having difficulty germinating recently purchased Cannabis seeds, they should try exposing them to a short period of red light before planting them.

 

[Betterhaff]

Is their any truth in this statement ?

I doubt any light will penetrate a dead , opaque seed shell.

For instance, the Pfr form of phytochrome allows germination to proceed. Therefore, if one is having difficulty germinating recently purchased Cannabis seeds, they should try exposing them to a short period of red light before planting them.

Not sure if cannabis seed would benefit from light exposure for germination, it would be an interesting experiment (one that’s probably been done). Red light has always been the spectrum thought to be the best as blue light seems to be an inhibitor, at least with seeds that need light for germination.

Seeds that need light to germinate tend to be self sowing varieties with small seed and it may be a mechanism (or part of) to break dormancy and make sure conditions are suitable for a better chance of survival. This is controlled be the phytochrome pigments in the seed coat. We all know cannabis seed can germinate without light exposure.

 

[gaiusmarius]

what is meant by a short period?

also what type of red light? normal hps light? or warm color florescent tubes? or red colored light bulbs? you'd think this kind of thing has been tested to death by now?

 

[foomar]

He is stating red light (660nm) will enhance germination.

I see no evidence or mechanism to support this , leading me to doubt the accuracy of the rest of the article.

There also exists within Cannabis and other plants a protein called cytochrome (Bou-Torrent et al., 2008). Cytochromes are protein molecules that harbour a chromophore, a colour-absorbing molecule. Depending on the wavelength of light striking the plant surface, the phytochromes are converted between different states or forms.

When the phytochromes receive red light (660nm) they become the Pfr type, which is active and allows flowering to proceed. If far-red light (730nm) is detected the phytochrome becomes the Pr type. The Pr type is a biologically inactive form and so flowering cannot proceed.

This is a comprehensive explanation of phytochromes and germination but i dont think it is relevant to cannabis.
http://plantphys.info/plant_physiology/phytochrome.shtml

 

[ElusiveQuark]

Well no one has seen it that is for sure, does that mean it is alive in a secret facility???? Pretty much for sure......
-SamS

Sam- is it your belief that Monsanto has not already created "round-up ready" cannabis? If so, what would make it any more difficult for cannabis vs. corn, soy, wheat, etc.?

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

If Monsanto wants to make GMO Cannabis they need to be licensed by the DEA to do the work, all of the DEA licenses to work with Cannabis are on file. Nothing from Monsanto, what does that mean? No i do not think they have GMO Cannabis.
-SamS

 

[KiefSweat]

whats the point of making rr herb?
There's no need to make something herbicide resistant if one of the byproducts of cultivation is weed suppression.

If there was gmo cannabis it would be much more novel.

 

[MJPassion]

If Monsanto wants to make GMO Cannabis they need to be licensed by the DEA to do the work, all of the DEA licenses to work with Cannabis are on file. Nothing from Monsanto, what does that mean? No i do not think they have GMO Cannabis.
-SamS

Monsanto are some very imaginative tricksters... They have politicians in their back pocket! They can, & mostly have, be doing whatever the hell they want. Because there is no paperwork publicly available, is zero indication of what they are actually doing.

Sam, have you seen The World According to Monsanto?
If not, I highly suggest watching the video & maybe even reading the book, if you feel so compelled.
I was unaware of the apparent power that this organization holds over the (ignorant) people of this earth.

They have less effect in Europe than they do in the USofA simply because of the people they put in high places & the amout of money they have to throw at lobbyist!

They need to be stopped... 30 years ago!!!

 

[MJPassion]

One other thing...
Monsanto are the leaders in biotechnology...
BUT...
Not the only biotech company.

Their goal, however, is to control the global food market through biotechnology.

FOOD IS FREEDOM.

 

[KiefSweat]

you could say they are trying to control the business of agriculture by making it more efficient and profitable. Most people confuse business practices with science.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

First of all I live in the EU where we have more common sense about GMO, we basically don't allow it to be grown. Second I am not afraid of GMO Cannabis, I will not buy it If it is ever made. If most Americans buy it then it might be successful, like most GMO products in the USA. Most Americans do not seem to care. I did watch the video but I don't buy GMO and I do not see what GMO has to do with Cannabis? The title of the thread is GMO Cannabis, and there is none available, still.....
-SamS

 

[MJPassion]

I knew you lived in EU and is why I asked if you had seen that vid. It's very eye opening the power of that corporation in particular!

And EU is very wise not allowing the GMOs but tha only applies to human food. Animal feed is less regulated so EUropeans aren't immune from GMOs effects.
Just saying...

I don't fear GMO cannabis either but that's not the point.
We don't really know what these con men are up to!

I don't think they're interested in cannabis as much as they are food crops but who's to say what they've got going on in the background?

Monsanto needs a stoned America so they can sell more Round Up ready Bt terminator corn seed to make more Doritos.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Do you understand the difference between GMO, and GMO Cannabis, and Monsanto GMO, and Monsanto GMO Cannabis? theses are not the same, GMO exist, Monsanto GMO exists. While GMO Cannabis, and GMO Monsanto Cannabis does not exist.
You say GMO Cannabis is not the point? The point is that we do not know what they are up to, so you presume it is GMO Cannabis?
I do not believe they need Cannabis to sell more GMO to most Americans, they seem happy to buy GMO foods etc without being high. I am sure you know the % of the corn crop in the USA that is GMO vs not GMO? Most Americans are eating them with every meal, and I can not stop them. But none of this means there is GMO Cannabis or GMO Monsanto Cannabis, where is the example being sold and until you have one it is all just your projected fears, anyone can say anything about anything and say that it will be happening tomorrow, but until then it has not yet happened. That was my point, IT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. And even if you think it may well happen soon it is not real yet. I have seen these GMO Monsanto Cannabis posts for more then a decade, either they say it is here or will be tomorrow, but I will believe it when I see it. If I said that I had a plant that grew buds that were 60% THC by weight you would be right to ask for proof, If I said I know I will have one next year you would still be right to ask for proof, just like I am asking you for proof of GMO Cannabis or GMO Monsanto Cannabis, where is the proof?
Try and stick to subject GMO CANNABIS and I will not delete the whole thread or delete all the off subject posts, As has happened many times before with other GMO Cannabis threads. If you can post anything about GMO Cannabis I am interested, please do not mention Monsanto GMO Cannabis unless you have at least a little bit of evidence, instead of wild speculation that they have or will be doing this soon because they are just so evil.....
That is not proof at all.
I have been very clear that I do not support GMO, but I also do not support wild claims that GMO Cannabis exists and is being sold today, or that Monsanto is breeding, or stockpiling GMO Cannabis, I just want some proof of any kind. In over a decade of GMO Cannabis posts I have not yet seen any proof of any kind and no GMO Cannabis has ever been found by anyone, even by the Italian scientist that knew that GMO Cannabis was real as that is why Cannabis THC levels have gotten so high, so she tested every Cannabis she could to see if it was GMO, none were, to her surprise.
Sad that a scientist would let her fears cause her to think that Cannabis must be GMO or it could not be so strong. At least after the testing she admitted she could not find GMO Cannabis, that is more then any of the GMO posters here have done, none admit they were wrong.

-SamS

I knew you lived in EU and is why I asked if you had seen that vid. It's very eye opening the power of that corporation in particular!

And EU is very wise not allowing the GMOs but tha only applies to human food. Animal feed is less regulated so EUropeans aren't immune from GMOs effects.
Just saying...

I don't fear GMO cannabis either but that's not the point.
We don't really know what these con men are up to!

I don't think they're interested in cannabis as much as they are food crops but who's to say what they've got going on in the background?

Monsanto needs a stoned America so they can sell more Round Up ready Bt terminator corn seed to make more Doritos.

 

[StRa]

not GMO cannabis but.....GMO THC.........

Scientists have genetically modified yeast to produce the main psychoactive substance in marijuana, THC. Responsible for most of weed’s effects (including the high), THC can also be used for medical purposes, to treat symptoms of HIV infection and chemotherapy.

Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), or to be more precise, its main isomer (−)-trans-Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol is the principal psychoactive constituent of cannabis. In April 2014 the American Academy of Neurology published a systematic review of the efficacy and safety of medical marijuana and marijuana-derived products in certain neurological disorders, identifying 34 studies that meet the necessary criteria and that document its potential medical uses.

“This is something that could literally change the lives of millions of people,” Kevin Chen from Hyasynth Bio, a US-based company that’s been engineering yeasts to produce both THC and cannabidiol – another active compound that has shown promise as a medical treatment – said in a statement.
Researchers from the Technical University of Dortmund in Germany published their results in the journal Biotechnology Letters. They looked into which genes of the marijuana plant produce THC, and then engineered those genes into yeast, which now creates THC itself.

The goal here isn’t just to create THC – because you know, marijuana is doing a pretty good job at that – but to find a better way to create THC in countries where the growth of marijuana is illegal even for research purposes. Synthetic versions of the substance are currently available, but the goal of the German researchers was to find a more efficient and cheaper way of producing it. Yasmin Hurd, a professor of neuroscience and psychiatry at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, told Tech Insider that using all the compounds in marijuana simultaneously is like “throwing 400 tablets in a cocktail and saying ‘take this,'” rather than figuring out which component of that cocktail is really beneficial for the specific disease. We need to somehow figure out what compounds have medical potential. Hopefully, this yeast will help.

Despite the recent surge in the news about cannabis’ medical properties, there is a limited evidence that it is actually effective against the conditions it is currently prescribed for. Researchers are currently trying to delimitate its actual benefits from wishful thinking.

Journal Reference: Bastian Zirpel, Felix Stehle , Oliver Kayser – Production of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinolic acid from cannabigerolic acid by whole cells of Pichia (Komagataella) pastoris expressing Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinolic acid synthase from Cannabis sativa l. Biotechnology Letters

http://www.zmescience.com/medicine/genetic/yeast-marijuana-thc-16092015/