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GMO cannabis

GreeeeN GRassss

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no multi national company does anything to make the world a better place, if that was the case then their would be no starving people in the world.

profit profit profit profit
 

Sam_Skunkman

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i don't even know where to start with the assertions i am seeing that there is some sort of conspiracy against GMOs,, fucking ridicuous and sad.

It is proven(depending on how ultra sceptical you are) that they affect the bacteria in your gut, cause epigenetic changes and cause problems with growth factors and cancer supressing genes that supress tumours.

Why does america have the highest rates of most lifestyle diseases that exist ??

In northern climates and the "west" our diets, and terrible "medicine", have been increasingly killing us much much earlier that the eastern countries, for decades now, because of our diet and specifically GMOs in america.

Of course there are anomalous cases of flawed studies, that is how the powers that be keep people confused, the same has been done for every other kind of environmental pollutant as well.

How about the reference for the study you posted? And what does it have to do with GMO Cannabis, as there is no GMO Cannabis available? Or do you think there is? Where, when, by who? Do you know what bait and switch means?
-SamS
 

GreeeeN GRassss

duppy conqueror
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Sam why bother posting in these threads its like a roundabout going around and around and around yawn.

what happened to the last one that got deleted ?
 

SeedsOfFreedom

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Just Thought that there could be some interest in cannabis being GMO. Personally I feel that GMO's and the way we are making/using them is going to come back and kick us in the ass, be it for food, fuel or for medicine. Not trying to get offend anyone just a topic I think everyone should be aware of. If it were up to me I would not mind GMO's in the market place (not that I would buy them) if they were labeled. If bio science monsters like Monsanto/Syngenta/DuPont were actually using gmo's to make the world a better place I might feel differently.

I agree. I do believe some GMOs may be (nearly?) harmless. What I find disgusting is the way they use them. People talk about GMOs providing billions of people with food to stop world hunger. Unlikely, how are the poorest people going to pay the money to some faceless corporation for seeds every crop. I don't like the fact they can pursue legal action against farmers that use seeds made by there pollen. I don't fear GMOs, I just don't like what they are doing with them.
 
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I personally do not favor GMO crops, that said, where is the GMO Cannabis? Every year or two the cry is made, GMO Cannabis is gonna get us!!! But every time there is no GMO Cannabis, it is fear and fear alone, that is why the GMO Cannabis crowd keep bleeting GMO Monsanto Cannabis, because they know they can get a knee-jerk reaction of hate aginst Monsanto, likely well deserved, but still no one has ever found any recreational or medical Cannabis that is GMO, no one even once. In a lab who knows, but real GMO Cannabis for people? Where is it? It is not real, only the fears of GMO Cannabis are real, not based on facts but fears of fears.....
-SamS

Exactly.

Just another divide and conquer scare campaign.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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Sam why bother posting in these threads its like a roundabout going around and around and around yawn.

what happened to the last one that got deleted ?

No idea, I post to counter the blind allegiance to the fear of the GMO Monsanto Cannabis is gonna get us. I always ask the same question, WHERE IS THE GMO CANNABIS?
It is never shown, because it does not exist. This has been going on for over ten years, but peoples fears get continually fed with articles like the one in the first post in this thread, which really said they will do this, we better watch out, not that there is GMO Cannabis anywhere.
-SamS
 

SeedsOfFreedom

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My biggest fear with GMOs would be contamination of local varieties. Certain plants may not be able to compete with the GMOs, and native genetics could be squeezed from the gene pool. That could be a a serious problem in the future if we lose useful genes.
With Cannabis I don't think there will be any GMO contaminating any landraces any time soon. That would be disgusting for Cannabis if it were to happen.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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My biggest fear with GMOs would be contamination of local varieties. Certain plants may not be able to compete with the GMOs, and native genetics could be squeezed from the gene pool. That could be a a serious problem in the future if we lose useful genes.
With Cannabis I don't think there will be any GMO contaminating any landraces any time soon. That would be disgusting for Cannabis if it were to happen.

Before that can happen there need to be GMO Cannabis varieties being grown. Where are they? They do not exist.
If you want to worry find something that is real now to worry about.
That is not GMO Cannabis.
-SamS
 

foomar

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i don't even know where to start with the assertions i am seeing that there is some sort of conspiracy against GMOs,, fucking ridiculous and sad.

What is really sad is continuing to post emotive pictures of cancerous rats from a totally discredited study that has since been withdrawn by the authors.

Exactly the same occurs on anti vaccine sites still quoting a totally discredited study linking autism.

Terminator seeds were only created because anti-GMO people complained about potential contamination of other crops and the environment by GMOs , terminator seeds were made to ensure that wouldn't happen , but then anti-GMO people complained about those before they were even brought to market so they were never actually sold.

It is easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled.


Why does america have the highest rates of most lifestyle diseases that exist ??

Because they are sedentary , obese, and are living longer only thanks to real medicine and health care , nothing to do with GM foods.

If canna is ever modified it will be for improved fibre production and drought resistance.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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What is really sad is continuing to post emotive pictures of cancerous rats from a totally discredited study that has since been withdrawn by the authors.

Exactly the same occurs on anti vaccine sites still quoting a totally discredited study linking autism.

Terminator seeds were only created because anti-GMO people complained about potential contamination of other crops and the environment by GMOs , terminator seeds were made to ensure that wouldn't happen , but then anti-GMO people complained about those before they were even brought to market so they were never actually sold.

It is easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled.




Because they are sedentary , obese, and are living longer only thanks to real medicine and health care , nothing to do with GM foods.

If canna is ever modified it will be for improved fibre production and drought resistance.

As well as pest and disease resistance in industrial hemp.
Hell, I do not want to smoke GMO buds, but they do not exist, so running around like the sky is falling is maybe just a bit premature?
-SamS
 

Sam_Skunkman

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i don't even know where to start with the assertions i am seeing that there is some sort of conspiracy against GMOs,, fucking ridiculous and sad.
It is proven........
Why does america have the highest rates of most lifestyle diseases that exist ??
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Well then Americas are victims of GMO for sure, as we know nothing else could be doing this to Americans....
fucking ridiculous and sad.
Do you understand the difference between Causation and a Casual or Correlational relationships?
-SamS
 
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SativaBreather

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So lets be clear SativaBreather, this article is proof of GMO Cannabis?
What a joke...
Show me the GMO Cannabis, not the conspiracies that it is or will happen, do you even understand the difference?
Here we go again....
-SamS


why are you being such a mug? As I said elsewhere ya gonna look a proper fool taking this stance when its revealed that Monscumto or any of the other GM co's are GMO'ing cannabis.
They've done it to practically every other consumable and you think they're not gonna do it to herb? Either naive or in cahoots somehow?
 

Sam_Skunkman

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why are you being such a mug? As I said elsewhere ya gonna look a proper fool taking this stance when its revealed that Monscumto or any of the other GM co's are GMO'ing cannabis.
They've done it to practically every other consumable and you think they're not gonna do it to herb? Either naive or in cahoots somehow?


I have never worked with GMO, I am against most GMO uses, that said, I am offended you think I am in cahoots, just because you can't find any GMO Cannabis to show me you are right.
SHOW ME THE GMO CANNABIS!
And when will you admit there is no GMO Cannabis being sold? Or is it always just around the corner just out of view, like the Government used to tell us about the "Reds", today it is the "terrorists" tomorrow it is Monsanto GMO Cannabis is gonna get us all....
Still sad....

-SamS
 

GreeeeN GRassss

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not defending anyone but Sams argument has always been where is the GMO cannabis that people are saying is on the market now. correct me if im wrong

i do believe in the future it will probably happen. multi national companys dont miss a beat when it comes to money.
 

guy fawkes

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That was done at the height of the original media frenzy over "frankenfoods" back in 1998 , many jumped on the bandwagon including the EU parliament , lobbied by the CAP subsidised farming industry that feared cheap imports from the US , Cameron was not involved 16 years ago.


and they are still banned now, like i say organic only.. still to this day.. speaks volumes... here eat this shit us rich folk wouldnt touch, the white house only has organic produce on the menu to..


and you really dont believe in geo engineering either eh...
 

foomar

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If it were possible to do it for drug cannabis , it would be as an easily to patent clone rather than seed , and never released to the public.

Much more likely that the technique would be used on industrial hemp , for non food purposes to avoid any controversy and with far more potential profit worldwide.

Many sites state that GM food is banned in all Monsantos restaurants ,the truth is that only one ever did this as a sub contracted supplier , but its still promoted as gospel all over the net , the anti brigade are dishonest and clutch at straws in the absence of any real evidence to support their cause..

and you really dont believe in geo engineering either eh...

I don't believe in chemtrails , vaccination induced autism , 911 bullshit , David Iike or the tooth fairy , show me the science.
Geo engineering is a possible option for the future but I see no proof it is being used so far , like GM cannabis.
 

gaiusmarius

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what? are you are asking for proof that gmos are being grown? or are you asking for proof that gmos are contained in a large % of food in US supermarkets? i will grant you that i have not seen or heard about any gmo cannabis crops yet, but that doesn't mean they are not possibly working on it. for now cannabis isnt a big enough crop to warrant bringing a gmo strain to market, but it wouldn't surprise me if they have already made some gmo cannabis seeds ready for the future. they are working on a whole bunch of crops after all, so why not cannabis?

i won't say that there might not be potential in gmo, but i do say the risks are too big. you'd need to do some real long term studies and they refuse saying it's not needed because gmo corn etc is exactly the same as non gmo corn etc. we are supposed to forget that they spliced a gene or several genes in to that plant to make it resist poison. but this is supposed to be the same thing as it was before? gimme a break. i have read reports about quite a few different studies, all show that gmo's will have negative effects on humanity in the long term. but the biggest danger is to the land race genetics, everything is getting wind pollinated by gmo's slowly but surely. even in countries that forbid gmo, they are finding their thousand year old land race corn strains are all getting contaminated with gmo genes. it's a tragedy, these guys have strains that grow year for year with no fertilizer using seeds collected every year. no pesticides needed, maybe not the best yield, but it was a closed cycle and gave them food independence for many generations. even if they were not rich they always had their mais 4x a year.
 

ogrerun

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I had made a comment about Hmo and feminized seeds a while back here.... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=283662

The other day I posted this gmo page on there because it was somewhat relavent to the conversation(me being a smart Ass) and then this kid OP took my post and started this thread with it

I wouldn't be mad if it got deleted.....

As far as the subject goes I wouldn't doubt it if there are warehouses full of gmo weed ready for legal days
 

SativaBreather

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I don't believe in chemtrails , vaccination induced autism , 911 bullshit ,
Geo engineering is a possible option for the future but I see no proof it is being used so far , like GM cannabis.

you really are the walking dead foolmar
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foomar

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maybe not the best yield, but it was a closed cycle and gave them food independence for many generations

The yield from traditional varieties is poor , not a problem historically when life expectancy was short , most children died and people lived a subsistence lifestyle.
The pressure on land has become enormous as population has increased, , the old ways are no longer viable.

GM is no magic bullet but it has a place in increasing food supply and income in the poorer third world countries , surplus can be sold to help raise them out of poverty.

Before there was "Roundup-ready" corn, there was "Atrazine-ready corn". It didn't come from Monsanto and it was not GMO. Corn has always been unaffected by atrazine. God made it that way. So many corn farmers used atrazine to control weeds in their cornfields. And atrazine was therefore the world's most used herbicide. Round-up (glyphosate) has now displaced most of that atrazine use. But here's the kicker - atrazine is 230 times more toxic than glyphosate. I'm going by the FDA regulations on what's allowed in public water supplies. Atrazine 3 parts per billion, glyphosate 700 parts per billion. I think it's safe to assume that if GMO corn were banned, lots of corn farmers would go back to using atrazine.

Recent concerns with genetically modified (GM) plants have not arisen in a significant way with GM bacteria and GM yeast, despite the widespread commercial application of new GM techniques to these organisms for many years. Diabetics have used insulin from a synthetic, human-like gene inserted into bacteria and yeast, for well over two decades, with no loud public protest. Another example of widespread application of new GM is vegetarian cheese - people have been consuming genetically engineered rennet protein for many years.


you really are the walking dead foolmar

And you are a naïve muppet with no scientific critique.

current traits conferred on crops reduce application of insecticides and herbicides, and although benefiting producers offer no evident benefits to consumers. For those who experience no benefit but sense a possible risk, the natural reaction is one of rejection.

Furthermore, allowing the patenting of the technological processes of GM (in contrast to plant variety rights that protect the output of traditional breeding) places new GM in a different position to traditional GM, a situation related to the fact that this second 'green revolution' is privately funded, in contrast to the publicly funded first Green Revolution. This comes in the context of a general distrust of science
 
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