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Pure Sativa Greenhouse

R

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Here is a smoke report for the Panama cut in the greenhouse. It might be interesting/useful and I really like sharing it!


IDENTIFICATION
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Date: 5 - 8 -14
Strain: Panama (Red Phenotype)
Judge: Bear_Riot
Breeder: Ace Seeds
Grower: Bear_Riot!!!

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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. Visual Appeal: Rate the visual appeal of the buds from 1-10 unappealing-excellent. 8-9

This is great looking dry marijuana. In terms of Bag appeal, it is the second prettiest strain I have grown, the only one that ranks above her in this category, that I have grown, is NYC Diesel, and I honestly and objectively don't think I've ever seen nicer looking bud than that, if I may say so myself which I may, so, all in all, top notch. Great trichome coverage and a profusion of red hairs, from a distance this is a darker jar, you might not say 'Red' but definitely not a wholly traditional looking green herb.

(one interesting thing to note is that I left the plant outside after harvesting all but the lower two branches. In 55-60F night temperatures, the buds on those branches purpled up to a beautiful light lavender tone, so maybe in a cooler greenhouse, she will produce some purple! Get yourself over to my greenhouse thread!)

2. Visible Trichomes: Rate the visible trichome content from 1-10 none-totally covered. 9

I think any sane person would conclude that trichomes/crystals are totally covering these buds.

3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for a more precise report.

Clear [ ] Cloudy [x] Amber [ ] Dark [ ]

After a bit of cure, only amber, nice light colored trichomes.

4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.

Brown [ ] Green [x] Gold [x] Blue [ ] Grey [ ] White [ ] Red [x] Rust [x] Orange [x] Purple [ ] Black [ ]

5. Bud density: [5] Rate the bud density from 1-10 airy-dense. For samples that are not in their natural state leave this field blank.
Right in the middle of the road. If the Oldtimer's Haze in this grow is a 1, about as airy as you can get, Panama sits at about 5. The bud is nice and compact, but there is air space too. Normal is the word.

6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly broken bud where a one indicates a subtle presence and 9 indicates a pronounced presence.
Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Earthy [2] Berry [2-3] Floral [5] Fruit [5] Hash [4]
Musk [2] Spice [2] Nutmeg [1] Strawberry [3] Lemon [7]

The sweet side of the cannabis spectrum. Not a citrus 'bite', as I have noted, but rather a warm, lush, and smooth ripe lemon overtone with definite floral berry reminders, and backgrounds of exotic spice, incense, and egyptian musk. The cure is bringing out stronger smells in almost all categories, but when the jar is opened, and it often is, I usually find myself expressing out loud how awesome it smells, even if I'm alone. It just needs to be said.

7. Aroma [8-9] Rate the aroma from 1-10 repulsive-delightful. Use freshly crumbled bud for best results.

Top notch. I grew out a chocolope dominant pheno of C99 x Chocolope that I doubt will ever be beaten in the smell dept., this jar definitely ranks in the same league though.

8. Seed content [0] Rate seed content from 0-10 none-fully seeded.
Not a seed in any of the bud from this grow, I think the Frost Monster nanner was impotent.

9. Weeks cured [2] If known enter the number of weeks your sample has been cured. If desired repeat SSR after an additional two weeks of curing.

This shouldnt be news to anyone but the cure is making this herb smell better and better, and the high nicer all the time. The problem is I don't think I can save this from myself long enough to give it a proper cure.

PHYSICAL EXAMINATION COMMENTS:
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THE SMOKE TEST
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Address these questions while smoking.

...looks like I have to smoke another bowl. Well, if I HAVE to

1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information below that will identify the instrument as follows:

Water pipe (enter bong, hooka, bubbler etc) [ ]
Vaporizer (enter the brand name) [ ]
Pipe (size-type, ie medium-glass) [x]
This is my homemade pipe/water pipe. I used three different length pieces of copper pipe, 1'', 6'', and 24'', connected by three 90 brass coupling elbows. A 'Y' valve functions as the carb, letting it clear quickly, and that connects to a common brass garden hose nozzle that functions as the bowl. Each bowl gives three 'milky' full hits, despite its small size, and maybe a couple of residual pulls. It is a highly efficient piece of equipment, and its not going to break, ever. You can change out the bowl, and there are different types of brass hose nozzle with different 'bowls', and they are $7.95 at the hardware store, and I can find new parts anywhere in the country. Then theres the fact that this pipe can be taken apart and look it looks like components of an irrigation system, slick sh*t. Then theres the fact that I can alter the size/capacity of this thing to anything I want. I could screw a regular garden hose onto the end of it and make it into a 100 footer.

It is called The Bamboozler.

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Now you see what this Panama is doing? I can't stop talking!

Joint (enter brand of papers) [ ]
Other (specify):

2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one indicates a subtle presence and a nine indicates a very pronounced presence.
Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Earthy [2] Fruit [8] Hash [6] Citrus [9]
Spice [2] Nutmeg [2] Strawberry [7] Lemon [9] Menthol [4]

The smoke is surprisingly close to the smell, which is very cool. I put '6' for Hash but thats not quite the taste, its more of a thick, oily background. Not acrid, not bitter, but sweet, floral, lemony, and more berry with a 'thick' feel to it. Very good for just 2 cure weeks. Nice on the exhale, and so smooth I only cough on the BIGGEST of hits, which, it turns out, adds to it's deceptive nature. This is the only bud in the collection I have at the time of this report that I can most definitely smoke too much of. Thats rare for me.

If appropriate return to this question after 5-10 minutes and mark
with X any unmarked descriptors for lingering aftertaste.

3. Taste [9] Rate your impression of the taste from 1-10 unpleasant-delicious.

4. State of dryness [5] Rate the dryness of the bud from 1-10 wet-dry where 5 is ideal.

I use a humidity monitor inside of the jar, and for this stage of the curing, I keep the jar at 65% rh. I have brought it down as gradually as possible from a beginning rh of 75% right after jarring. No mold and no spoilage.

5. Smoke ability [10] Rate the smoke ability of the sample from 1-10 harsh-smooth.

A very positive sticking point for this herb, its well velvety.


6. Smoke expansion [ ] Rate how the smoke expands in the lungs from 1-10 stable-explodes.

Im sorry but I have no idea what this means. I don't burst out coughing, like I said, very little throat pain, easy to hold a hit in. Too easy.

SMOKE TEST COMMENTS:

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FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
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Address final questions immediately after effects have worn off.

1. Dosage [3 or fewer] Enter the number of hits taken to reach desired effects.

All winter I had not much to do and was smoking two, sometimes three 110 millimeter joints a day, each was over a gram, and I can get, LIKE NOW, way way high from just finishing one bowl out of the Bamboozler.

2. Effect onset [5] Rate how quickly the effect hit from 1-10 immediate-major creeper.

I don't really notice it to be either. Maybe a little more creeper than quick, I usually start packing another bowl and then don't smoke it. Another positive of the Bamboozler is I can set it down and it solidly holds a packed bowl.

3. Sativa influence [8-9] Rate the sativa influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Sativa influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.

Now we get to the meat of the thing. This is a pure Sativa, plain and simple. An experienced sativa connoisseur would not mistake this for a hybrid. You are awakened and uplifted, motivated and talkative. That said, I put 8-9 because there is a drifty, disoriented, dense effect to the high that is totally enjoyable and not to be confused with a lethargic Indica stone.

The breeders describe the high of the Panama Red phenotype with that adjective, dense, and once you smoke it you know exactly what they mean. They also said once that is was far from being a 'dirty' sativa, and once you smoke it you definitely get that, too.

4. Indica influence [0] Rate the indica influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Indica influence is best described as a sedative,
lethargic or numbing effect that affects the body.

5. Potency [8-9+] Rate the potency of the sample from 0-10 none-devastating.

As I have made clear, I have plenty of smoking experience and this does the trick and then some.

6. Duration [2+] Indicate the number of hours the effects lasted.

7. Tolerance build up [4] Rate how quickly tolerance builds from 0-10 none-rapid. Leave this field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.

Im going to wait to pass judgement on this, so far, its still getting me high as hell.

8. Usability [check] Rate on a scale of 1-9 where a one indicates the worst time of day to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day.
Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.

Morning - wake up [7] Day - work [6] Evening - relax [6] Night - sleep [3]

This is the herb that I am smoking in the mornings. It works then, its fine while I am working, and its has a surprising relaxing quality to it, I heard someone say 'sensual', thats accurate. Its a sensual, warm, happy, and very floaty sativa. Not for bedtime for me.

9. Overall satisfaction [8-10] Rate your overall satisfaction from 1-10 poor-Holy Grail.

Wasn't planning on keeping this plant because she has a mutated leaf that shows up about 1 out of every 10 leaves the plant grows. Its got a twisted tip and a variegated yellow slash pattern, not yellowing from deficiency, but like a patterned leaf. I'll try to get a photo.

10.Ability and conditions [7-8] Rate your overall ability to judge from 1-10 low-high. Consider experience, strain familiarity, atmosphere,
current tolerance and most importantly the condition and preparation of the sample.

I feel pretty seasoned despite being on the younger side, there are definitely many more experienced IcMag members, but I hold my smoke for sure. I definitely qualify as a daily smoker. I definitely qualify as a weed head, and I qualify as a connoisseur.

11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use. Yes [xxxx] No [ ]


The Panama Red effect:

An uplifting, dreamy, expansive floating sensation, sometimes experienced as a physical euphoria. Produces feelings of warmth and positive energy/thoughts. Creativity and abstract thought are enhanced. I have no experience with this strain in social situations, but I imagine it to be functional, perhaps inducing laughter. In higher doses there is an almost out-of-body effect that could be considered a form of trippyness, a twist on most the classic psychedelic sativa effect. I have no problem reading, and when smoking Panama I tend to be very highly focused on whatever im doing, sometimes completely absorbed in mundane tasks like dishwashing and pulling weeds. Tactile experience is enhanced, along with visual richness and color intensity. Late evening sunset glow quality to the world of Panama. A neat feature of the effect seems to be that my short term memory is not nearly as impaired as it usually is, which is one reason I believe the high could be quite socially functional. As yet, I have not found a 'limit' to Panama, I invariably stop smoking before it stops getting me high.


Conclusion:
Panama is a winner strain, excellent to grow and smoke. This pheno goes above and beyond by being exceptionally beautiful and exotic as a plant and in the jar/bag, because of it's highly unusual pink pistil.
Thank you to the Ace Seed Company, saludos
Thanks for reading!
 
R

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And here's some shots of the greenhouse:


These girls are moving out today hopefully. They poop all over the place, but that gets mixed into compost teas to make pooped up compost/manure tea. I mean souped up.
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Here are 4 plants now in their permanent spots. From the left, if you can even spot the marijuanas, they are Frost Monster, behind and left of it the GD-72, to the left of that the 24 week blonde haze pheno, in front of that the NYCD bush, caged.
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GD-72 solo:
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Nasturtiums are coming out very soon, before the bug bombing.


The Panama and Haze #2 plants are going to be permanently situated in the coming days or weeks, the chickens have been raised in the trough that the panama will end up in. There is 4 inches of soil in the bottom that has been thoroughly pooped on for the last month and a half, so I will need to give that some time being moist/aerated to decompose before the Panama gets planted.
 
R

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Thanks guys. No I imagine Brazil is a greenhouse itself.

Here are the plants this morning:


GD-72
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Haza - she is growing!
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Frost Monster
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Panama is in a new pot!
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I removed the giant tomato plant from the trough that the GD was in, mixed in a bunch of hot compost into that spot, and top dressed the entire trough as well. The panama was repotted into a slightly smaller stock tank, she will be grown as a bush since she has such great branching angles. The previous panama I grew had very small branching angles and I couldn't really bush it, the shoots from topping would grow together basically. I also removed the nasturtiums from the rear pot and planted some more beets!
 
R

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The Haze has been permanently placed, as you can see. In probably less than a week it will be time to put shade cloth up over the greenhouse, it is steadily above 90 degrees when the sun is shining, and the fans are having trouble keeping up as the outdoor air temp rises.

Panama has been planted with basil and carrots, basil shouldn't be much competition and carrots will be relatively shallow rooted so the Panama roots will take over below them, in the soil where the two months of chicken poop will be composted and broken down, available nutrients by the time the roots get that far.

Also, I am disappointed by how weak the branches of the NYC Diesel are. I knew that it would need support as the colas flop a lot, but yesterday I sprayed water onto it and and it flopped so much that the central stem split in half. I removed the smaller branch, now there is one center branch that has about two inches of stem that is halfway stripped. It will heal and recover but its annoying that I am having so much trouble making her into a nice bush.
 
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onefinity

Active member
Awesome grow Bear! great choice in genetics. Phenomenal harvest and report on the Panama, it looks and sounds amazing.
 

Hanzokan

New member
Hey thread & Bear Riot. , really getting into growing vegetables and trees as I get older and love cannabis and just amazed its still somehow considered taboo...Wasting an amazing resource I say! Anyways forums like this and stories like these give people hope seeing people out there with knowledge of these plants and our relationship with them. I've always been interested in the different types of cannabis. I thought this so was interesting that not only was there this plant... but there are different types with different properties and effects. I am super interested in sativas and your thread is very interesting, thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge of the plants :)
 

Croptober

Active member
Healthy looking plants, if your still having trouble with the gnats you can throw some washed beach sand (Lowes $4 for 50lbs) on the top layer of soil and I guarantee you will see a difference. I had a bad batch of soil filled with them so I added the beach sand on top and it completely eradicated them.
 
R

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Panama
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Diesel
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Haze #2
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Haze #1 jungle
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GD-72
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Everything except the Panama has officially reached the point of inspiring fear and awe in me. They are too big. All these sativa's are going to outgrow the space and could probably keep on gaining size a good while after that. I am not sure what to do, except that the next time I try this I will germinate the seeds in May as opposed to early March.
 
R

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great thread. I'll watch

Good to have you here, fusherr.

Healthy looking plants, if your still having trouble with the gnats you can throw some washed beach sand (Lowes $4 for 50lbs) on the top layer of soil and I guarantee you will see a difference. I had a bad batch of soil filled with them so I added the beach sand on top and it completely eradicated them.

yeah, that is what I have heard. Right now, I don't see any gnats, the problem is a spider mite population that has taken up residency in the Diesel foliage. That will need to be dealt with, I think I will trim off all the lower leaves and branches and then do the bug bomb.

In any case things look good, this was the first time I have ever seen a marijuana plant that is taller than I am.
 
R

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I feel like the bomb is always a last resort, have you tried ladybugs or mightywash?

youre right, it is, and Im going to wait. There are ladybugs that show up in the greenhouse and the mite population is not exploding as some sources suggest that it would. It actually seems stable and to be not hurting the plant that much. The problem with sprays and soaps is that the plant is so huge and has so many leaves that it is not possible to spray the whole thing.
 

paulo73

Convicted for turning dreams into reality
Veteran
Your nailing it.
I would use milder solutions instead of going straight with the bomb.
Ladybugs or some organic pesticide used as foliar as done it for me in the past.
Usually ladybugs do well in greenhouses because when the pests are decimated they just move to greener pastures.
Nice work anyway.
 

Mikell

Dipshit Know-Nothing
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Doobies and beet salad?

I thought you'd never ask :D


This thread is epic, Ima go look for the build pics if there aren't any yet.

[edit: Ah nuts. Was still a good browse.]
 
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