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Ive already spent over 1200 dollars on my first grow room. PLEASE HELP!!!

Vegan

Active member
to this eventually
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so have fun its addicting to grow
 

noobs1988

Member
Thanks for the input guys.

I actually have been thinking about doing coco now that everywhere has been mentioning it. One concern is how to get rid of the waste water. seems likes a PITA. and Id probably have to order the coco online. any suggestions?

my titan controller/regulator, net pots, and new MH bulb came in. that was about $550. wont be able to get a tank for 2 more weeks. was thinking about popping my seeds in the rockwool cubes I got already. I have a small ebb and flow setup that would do for a few weeks till I built the "setup". thinking about doing 3 20 gallon tubs RDWC with a 30 gallon control rez for a total of about 60-70 gallons. ill post pictures as soon as I get my tank and have everything hanged and tied.

I also have a major concern. I tested out my MH bulb and I couldn't get it to work. I enventually did get it to fire one time. I turned it off and waited about a hour. went to turn it on again and nothing. this is the second bulb that wouldn't work. Im starting to think it might be my hood. it hasn't ever been used but ive had it for about a year. its a sunsystem hood. should have a picture of it on page 3. anyone have that hood? im worried its going to mess up my light cycle. im thinking about ill have to do is keep it on 24/7 after I get it fired.
 

hotrodlincoln

New member
What program did you use at the start of the thread for the grow room dimensions? I've been doing it on paper with a pencil and ruler :p
 

Vegan

Active member
Thanks for the input guys.

I actually have been thinking about doing coco now that everywhere has been mentioning it. One concern is how to get rid of the waste water. seems likes a PITA. and Id probably have to order the coco online. any suggestions?

my titan controller/regulator, net pots, and new MH bulb came in. that was about $550. wont be able to get a tank for 2 more weeks. was thinking about popping my seeds in the rockwool cubes I got already. I have a small ebb and flow setup that would do for a few weeks till I built the "setup". thinking about doing 3 20 gallon tubs RDWC with a 30 gallon control rez for a total of about 60-70 gallons. ill post pictures as soon as I get my tank and have everything hanged and tied.

I also have a major concern. I tested out my MH bulb and I couldn't get it to work. I enventually did get it to fire one time. I turned it off and waited about a hour. went to turn it on again and nothing. this is the second bulb that wouldn't work. Im starting to think it might be my hood. it hasn't ever been used but ive had it for about a year. its a sunsystem hood. should have a picture of it on page 3. anyone have that hood? im worried its going to mess up my light cycle. im thinking about ill have to do is keep it on 24/7 after I get it fired.


Ahh ok I forgot you are not close to a shop. Scrap the coco idea. Go with the rwdc
 

noobs1988

Member
What program did you use at the start of the thread for the grow room dimensions? I've been doing it on paper with a pencil and ruler :p

I just used Microsoft paint... then to write in number just use a text box. kinda a PITA to get things perfect but you can do it good enough.

Yeah, I think im just going to go balls out and try a RDWC. sucks about my hood though. kinda pisses me off bc ive never even used it. I wonder if sunsystem would send me a replacement after so long. anyone ever dealt with sun systems customer service?

this is light im talking about. anyone have it? switchable 250/400w MH and HPS.
 

noobs1988

Member
alright well that sucks about the light. guess ill just have to by a new one.

however, I just placed my last order for my co2 tank and uniseals. those things are expensive. I spent 35 bucks on 6. and once my uniseals come in, im going to build my RDWC.

I will be using floranova series. I have some root enhancer and super thrive, was wonder if theres anything else I should be adding. Was thinking about the biozyme stuff.
 
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SPICYcracker

New member
If you can control your humidity, temp and air flow you'll fail. On another note, no disrespect, if your already fretting over 1200 bucks, your gonna have a hard time buddy. This hobby requires deep pockets both to get started and keep it going. My first grow room cost over 15k. My advise, if your gonna do it, do it right the first time. Otherwise it's a waste of your time bud.
 

lvtokerr

Member
dont do rdwc! thats a setup asking for failure. all bubble buckets kick ass the first round or two and then go down hill fast from there. you cant clean the slime out of the buckets and pipes.
 

medicalmj

Active member
Veteran
dont do rdwc! thats a setup asking for failure. all bubble buckets kick ass the first round or two and then go down hill fast from there. you cant clean the slime out of the buckets and pipes.
I never had slime but my system went from incredible to constant root problems after a few grows. If you want to automate and maximize over the long haul try some type (rock wool, coco, clay pellets, pro-mix, etc) of top feed drain to waste (DTW). Look what the pro's do(weed or otherwise) and basically none do rdwc and very few do any kind of recirculating in general. It's just to risky.
 

JointOperation

Active member
for a first timer.. I would say.. SOIL is your best friend.. to be honest.. its way more forgiving.. then coco or hydro.... just an idea.
 

the gnome

Active member
Veteran
for a first timer.. I would say.. SOIL is your best friend.. to be honest.. its way more forgiving.. then coco or hydro.... just an idea.

:yeahthats

after reading some of this thread,
I agree wit JO---->go with soil.
I'm reading A LOT of...
how do I....
never done it, ...
I have no idea how...
In this thread

the one that really gets my attention is...
I need to wait a few weeks to get a paid so I can get..[i/]
if your on a tite budget, on your 1st grow room you need your 1st gro needs to end with a good harvest
and a financially successful one

JO hits the nail on the head when he says go SOIL for the 1st time.
things can go south in a matter of days with rdwc or coco
and soil is soooooooo very forgiving.

get soil down pat 1st
then onto bigger and better things
good luck noobs :)
 

Granger2

Active member
Veteran
Don't germinate seed till the whole system is up and running. RDWC will break your heart. Good luck. -granger
 

newkid

Member
Hey Im a beginner too,I would highly recommend soil for your first time, if you notice your mistake you can fix it before it gets out of control!
 

JointOperation

Active member
one thing I will say is.. don't count your money till its trimmed and in jars.. lol ..

had a friend of mine.. fail hard.. and now I got equipment for cheap as fuck..

also.. don't give up if u fail.. some of the best have ups and downs..

you need to respect the plant.. lol sounds silly but when I started to read the plant.. respecting that it can grow almost anywere.. and becoming aware that anyone can grow weed.. but only few can grow it to perfection.. from start to finish.. and from plant to the nug in your joints and bowls lol.. a lot of people skip steps to save time and end up fucking themselves..

that's when I became a better grower..

research... reading articles.. and grow journals.. and talking to people on the net.. and shit.. it gets a little crazy.. so much info.. some misinfo.. and lots of people bitching at eachother thinking they are doing it the correct way.. and others saying they are..

a lot of the info on the boards is BS fights and drama..

for me learning from experience was the best for me.. but the reading and understanding certain aspects.. helped me along the way.
 

TheCleanGame

Active member
Veteran
You're screwing up big time...

:yeahthats

after reading some of this thread,
I agree wit JO---->go with soil.
I'm reading A LOT of...
how do I....
never done it, ...
I have no idea how...
In this thread

the one that really gets my attention is...
I need to wait a few weeks to get a paid so I can get..[i/]
if your on a tite budget, on your 1st grow room you need your 1st gro needs to end with a good harvest
and a financially successful one

JO hits the nail on the head when he says go SOIL for the 1st time.
things can go south in a matter of days with rdwc or coco
and soil is soooooooo very forgiving.

get soil down pat 1st
then onto bigger and better things
good luck noobs :)


All good advice except I'm not a soil advocate.

What you need... is a shit ton of information. Put the money away, pack the equipment you've got into a closet or garage and f'ng read for the next 6 months.

The LAST thing you need to be doing when you start a grow is "seeking out information" unless you're looking to fail.

I've purchased my plane ticket, jumpsuit, parachute, fancy watch and had my $100 haircut. I've jumped out of the airplane and I need a response on the forums fast because the ground it coming close, pretty fast.

What do I do now?

Seriously... :tiphat:
 

DoubleTripleOG

Chemdog & Kush Lover Extraordinaire
ICMag Donor
Sometimes the best way to learn is thru trial and error. Start small and work your way up. Reading these forums is a great way to gather info. Soil is your best friend in the beginning. Once a few successful crops have been harvested in soil, then maybe try hydro....and just like in the beginning, start small and work your way up.

Another thing......don't let assholes on the net discourage you. Your trying and asking for help.........exactly how most of us got our start.
 

TheCleanGame

Active member
Veteran
Soil is your best friend in the beginning. Once a few successful crops have been harvested in soil, then maybe try hydro....
Doesn't matter what you start with, if you take the time to learn what you're doing first.

Never needed to ask a single question on my first hydro. I took the time to know what was needed first and worked accordingly. Just like anyone in ANY regular field of endeavor would do.

There's nothing special about cannabis that says buying shit first without studying is the way to be successful.

I took me almost 4 years to spend my first 1,200$ on growing... if you don't count electricity and water.

What do you do first in life? Learn how to program really well, or leverage your way into a contract that says you need to know how to program really well... then scramble to learn programming?

Tired of people pushing bad logic and bad info. Be smart, don't listen to either. :tiphat:
 

the gnome

Active member
Veteran
Doesn't matter what you start with, if you take the time to learn what you're doing first.
Never needed to ask a single question on my first hydro. I took the time to know what was needed first and worked accordingly. Just like anyone in ANY regular field of endeavor would do.
well, your assuming everyone is on your level of what you as an individual can accomplish which frankly isn't much.
only problem with you and your bad logic/info is very clear...
not everyone is you ..... thank god
this is clearly evidenced by reading the title of this thread, 2 words in particular... PLEASE HELP!!!
shorter advice from you like *just follow the directions* would have done as well, eh
so... run along now
:smoke:
 
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Oti$

I studied religiously for atleast a year, hours EVERY night. It helps that this is something we love and really want to do. In spite of my spending hours on thus site nightly I still bought an exhaust fan sized way too small and bought every damn bottle of snake oil I thought would grow fantastic plants. My first grow was a success. I yielded about 700g from a 1k and, although not properly flushed, the smoke was pretty damn good and the buds were pretty. You will find answers to your questions. I'm going to list a few things that may help:
shoot for 50 watts/sqft
exchange air 2x/min
buy an ec meter and feed no higher than 1.2ec unless they look hungry(if you decideoon hydro)
this is a suggestion, if you'd like the forgiveness if soil with hydro growth, try coco.
if you decide to go coco/hydro, feed only a simple base nute, don't buy all the extra bottles
if you go soil, find mix that requires water only. Many grow shops have bagged super soil or their own house mix.
ph for hydro/coco:5.8-6.3....i think soil us higher, 6.5-6.8(?) soil grower chime in
I'd hand water at first BC it forces you to spend time with your plants and the more time spent in the garden=more happier plants
read the threads about pests and deficiencies so if a problem arises, you'll have sone ideas on how to remedy them
try to keep lights on temps in the mid 70's and try not to let night time temps drop much lower than-10* of lights on
humidity: higher(70%) in veg and through the end of stretch and -50% in flower

I know this isn't really what you were asking, but it should be nice to have a brief summery of the basic parameters you want to work within. Good luck!
 
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