Taking a Dab through Ice water/frozen

[Elements001]

So I cleaned out my bong with some rock salt and ISO to get it like new. I put some distilled water in it to have an extra clean first dab. I also just bought a chest freezer and decided to put it in there to try and get the water slightly frozen.
I ended up leaving it in there a bit longer, and it froze most of the way with water still in the center.
I was still bale to draw air through it, and thought it would make a really smooth dab.

Right as I take the dab I get like no smoke pass through and it was a pretty hefty shatter dab. Looks like 80% of the dab resolidified and now I have a fat dab floating around, lol.

Just thought it was interesting and thought I'd post some pics.

At first it looked completely white, like it had frost on it, was really weird.

 

[SooperSmurph]

Yeah, it does the same thing inside your lungs, re solidifies, but the soft tissue just absorbs it over time, hence why smoking only wax is much healthier than smoking flowers.

 

[Elements001]

Gotcha. I used to always think that ice just made the hits smoother. Was really interesting to see this little accident unfold. I wonder how much thc you lose when smoking flower through ice water in a bong, or with an ice catch.

Come to think of it, those ice catches may not be the best of friends when it comes to getting your moneys worth. On the other hand, I've got meds to spare, lol

 

[Sirdabsalot46n2]

Great post Elements, thanks for sharing!!!

Crazy properties of oil..lol

 

[JointOperation]

wierd.. so when u smoke flowers out of a bong with an ice catcher.. do u not get as much of the trichomes? or wat????? lol that suck.. was this done with a dab setup. or just smoking it in a normal bong.. ? i heard from people that smoking bho in a bowl and bong is a waste.. i never understood until this..

 

[Elements001]

I was thinking the same thing, was really making me reconsider using ice in a bong.

This was more of a bong setup, but I had a conversion kit on it making it a decent dab setup. It was a fat ass straight dab on a Ti nail with a standard dome. I put the bong in my freezer and took it out barely in time to where I could pull through it.

I remember I used to hate it when I would smoke out of other peoples bongs because they always put too much water and ice in for me. I always felt like I never got as high. It was a lot smoother, but I just never got the same effect.

 

[JointOperation]

you know i tried this with a vial i made into a vaporizer .. i used a torch.. and a dab.. and when the smoke settled.. and shit.. there was a layer of reclaim lookin stuff. on EVERY part of the entire vial that was sticky as hell..

so as it recrystalized in the vial.. im thinking damn.. now i understand why i cough my ass off if i try to dab like .5 in a rip. haha

 

[gaiusmarius]

i can hardly believe that the vapor turned back into that smear in the pics? why was the stuff not spread out all over the inside of the bongs ice? how did it get back into that nice piece? you'd expect it to coat everything evenly if it was reclaimed on the ice inside the bong. i know i stopped getting into bho right at the beginning after noticing feelingas if it was coating the inside of my lungs in a way i never get from bud.

 

[Elements001]

I know, it was really weird. At first it was spread all over the glass in a thin coat(kinda spotty but uniform, first 3 pictures), looked like it went from clean to heavily used in one dab. Then after a few minutes it kinda settled and clumped back together(last 2 pictures). I have no clue how that happened. Maybe it was just some sort of freak occurrence that I probably couldnt replicate if I tried.

Maybe since it was so cold most of the oils reconstituted and made it more runny, and in the distilled there was nothing it could really attach to so it all pooled together?

Idk, it blew my mind so I figured I'd post some pictures

Interesting stuff

 

[purple_man]

neat find, obviously the vapor recondensed due to sufficient low temp and availible cold area in relation to vapor ammount...

reminds me of volcano bags, after some time if the bag content doesn't get inhaled the vapor recondenses.

blessss

 

[SkyHighLer]

I inhale my dabs through a tube, no water, and found even a single ninety degree bend in the tube deposits a zillion fold increase in claim.

About the same amount of oil inhaled through each of these tubes pictured. Check out the big glob in the RooR, and basically nothing in the straight tube.

 

[Sirdabsalot46n2]

@Sky...

I've seen you post a picture using that straight tube for dabbing in a picture on this site or the other, can't remember.

I do remember being very curious in the manner in which this is done, I can't figure out if you are heating a nail, or the tube itself...

I know its gotta be super efficient after seeing those pics above.
Would you mind elaborating on how you utilize the straight tube for dabbing.
I am very curious, and have been, ever since you posted it previously.

Enlighten me Sky?

Thanks in advance.

 

[gaiusmarius]

damn you can almost still see trich heads on the inside of the glass lol, crazy shit! that has to be hard on the lungs? if oil it better be an absolute, get those waxes out as thats probably the largest part of the reclaimed lump i would think?

thanks for posting this up, it sure is an eye opener and mind expander (makes ya think), lol.

 

[Elements001]

I was wondering the same as well sky, havnt seen those 2 particular setups before. I have a "honey badger" made by the people that make Nectar Collectors (very cool stuff, google em). The more I look the more I notice that any bends/obstruction for the vapor really makes it condense like you said. It's all clear past the tip where the shape changes, with a fat dollop of reclaim in the tip. Never really noticed that before.

You heat the stem on my honey badger and get a straight shot of concentrate ( I use little glass concentrate jars to take the dab off of). I've only used shatter in mine (well maybe wax once or twice), and the reclaim left inside is so oily. It actually pours out of the tube if I let it sit on its side point down. I keep it in bubble wrap for safety and there was a puddle on the wrap.
I've had buddies who dab all the time come and give it a shot and they almost puked and passed out. One guy just sat on the couch staring at the floor for 20 minutes, lol. Maybe I gave em a little to big of a dab.

I love this thing, I'd use it more but it's glass and I know it'll break, so I save it for the best of the best shatter (usually, lol, the once or twice). It's surprisingly smooth too when you use the right concentrate. I can taste the shatter all over after dabbing through it. Yumm.

 

[gaiusmarius]

so you heat one end of the glass tube and then drop the dab in that end of the tube?

 

[Elements001]

I think you can do it like that, but I do mine a little differently. I put some concentrate in a little glass jar, heat up the tip, then press it onto the concentrate and inhale. I wiggle it around a bit to make sure the tip vaporizes as much as it can. It seems to cool down fairly quick, but works well still.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Now I know why, when I smoke my dry sift in my bong with ice, like I have for the last 25 years, I do not get high. All this time I though it was just me.
Just joking, weird but cool in a twisted sort of way.

-SamS

 

[Elements001]

lol, I gotcha. I still got high when I would use other peoples bongs with a ton of water and ice, it just wasnt the same as only using a little ice and water that went about 1/4" above the downstem(the people I used to hang out with would practically have water touching the bowl in the downstem. Too much for me personally.) I think there's a balance to it like most things in life.

 

[SkyHighLer]

I don't even accept that water filtration is correct for herb, it's was done going on the fact that THC wasn't being dissolved in the water, the fact that the good oil vapors drop out in the relatively cool water was ignored, because the bong scum was obfuscating it from our vision. Out of sight, out of mind...

The shotgun/steamroller pipe is an ancient traditional Pacific Islander design, it can be found in Dunhill's Pipe Book. A chillim's just a little too cut throat for me...

Please post a link to the Honey Badger, looks like a standard basic oil pipe, glad to see they're still making them. I assume you're just lightly torching the bulged out section of the glass while inhaling.

When I first started using my soldering iron setup I was inhaling through long glass eye droppers (pipettes,) heavy claim would build up right behind the closed off end, I assume do to the rapid change in pressure.

I've found if you use exactly the amount of oil you can handle, and vape it at exactly the perfect temperature, no water is necessary.

Here's my setup,
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6177066&postcount=46

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

No matter what you say nothing can convince me that my dry sift in my bong with cold clean tap water can be beat by anything, it is not the pipe as much as the dry sift, I will honestly say. But I do believe in, for each their own. My water does not really turn colors from the dry sift but I change the water every day to keep it fresh.
-SamS

I don't even accept that water filtration is correct for herb, it's was done going on the fact that THC wasn't being dissolved in the water, the fact that the good oil vapors drop out in the relatively cool water was ignored, because the bong scum was obfuscating it from our vision. Out of sight, out of mind...

The shotgun/steamroller pipe is an ancient traditional Pacific Islander design, it can be found in Dunhill's Pipe Book. A chillim's just a little too cut throat for me...

Please post a link to the Honey Badger, looks like a standard basic oil pipe, glad to see they're still making them. I assume you're just lightly torching the bulged out section of the glass while inhaling.

When I first started using my soldering iron setup I was inhaling through long glass eye droppers (pipettes,) heavy claim would build up right behind the closed off end, I assume do to the rapid change in pressure.

I've found if you use exactly the amount of oil you can handle, and vape it at exactly the perfect temperature, no water is necessary.

Here's my setup,
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6177066&postcount=46