Pure Thai Sativas

[Donald Mallard]

hey eb ,,
yea that one of kangas is same i have now ,
be a few more weeks yet though ,,
probably come on fast now ,
will most certainly be putting some in the long cure jar for later perusal ,
which i know you ll be wanting to try , hehehe ,

im thinking it will be hold onto your seat sort of pot ,
just by the smell , look and resin early on ..

 

[Rinse]

Interesting stuff, heres something to add to the mix,
something I previously thought was Colombian, now I think its far more likely Thai:

 

[GreenGrocer]

Hi all,

For what its worth in my experience with Kaikis Thai as well as the Chaing Mai Thai gifted by Rahan which he said was direct from there and the Dalat I grew out in all cases the plants I had began with wider leaves. This was also true of my PRed.

Here are a few pics of the Chaing Mai which I would consider a creeper variety with thin branches that were weighed down by the weight of the bud.

The buds had a good deal of trichomes on them.

Very nice to see others pics as well.

Cheers
GG

 

[Rinse]

Thai grow in Spain from Dutch coffeeshop Thai bagseed

 

[Mustafunk]

Great info everyone! GreenGrocer good to see you around! I've read so many awesome reports on that Chiang Mai thai... it's a pity that the line needs to be cleaned for hermies though! Some more pictures of the Thai line from CBG (Hmong thai from uncertain origin) and their thousand faces.

Starting with wide leaves indoors by Charlie Garcia:

Same grow, getting thinner:

But different phenotypes outdoors as grown in 2007 by another spanish fella, who reported that after 2 months at 12/12 they were barely starting, he harvested at about 4-5 months!

He reported that a few females were nice and clean although not too strong, but there was one that was killer... few guys got sick and had panic attacks before they even realized it was because of the weed that put their asses flying for a few hours! lol.

 

[Rinse]

Great info everyone! GreenGrocer good to see you around! I've read so many awesome reports on that Chiang Mai thai... it's a pity that the line needs to be cleaned for hermies though! Some more pictures of the Thai line from CBG (Hmong thai from uncertain origin) and their thousand faces.

Starting with wide leaves indoors by Charlie Garcia:
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Same grow, getting thinner:
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But different phenotypes outdoors as grown in 2007 by a spanish fella, who reported that after 2 months at 12/12 they were barely starting, he harvested at about 4-5 months!

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He reported that a few females were nice and clean although not too strong, but there was one that was killer... few guys got sick and had panic attacks before they even realized it was because of the weed! lol.

Sounds extreme, cant imagine waiting 4-5 months for flowering,
Id have gone from seed to cure jar by then lol.
Im guessing this is a different line to the meo thai?

Heres some Thai import:

 

[Mustafunk]

Sounds extreme, cant imagine waiting 4-5 months for flowering

Hahaha yeah I know but 4-5 months sounds mandatory for tropical strains if you want them untamed... and I'm sure the wait is worth!

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day GG , Rinse , Mustafunk , Bushie

All very nice examples .
@ GG
The creeper ! Now thats a legendary variety we don`t see any more . I read about something similar in MJ Botany . And I saw the old SSSC catalogues with creeper hybrids .
@ Rinse
That log you shared the photos from is a good one . That`s archetypical Thai to my eyes. From a stik as well . Which makes me wonder where the purple and the indica staminate flowers come from in the 82 Thai ?
I wonder if by 82 the supply was more diverse ? Or like I queried earlier has it been hybridised to allow it to finish in Switzerland ?



@ MF
Is meao a region in Thailand ?
I searched for Meao all I found was references to Ace or the region in Portugal ??

Enjoyed perusing the pix guys .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[bushweed]

Hi everyone, great posts. Here's a 79'Thai that was kept by 20'Thai and shared with a few internet guys like Raco and Charlie. It demonstrates the diversity that can be seen in Thai flowers. Unfortunately I think it has been lost unless Charlie has it buried in his fridge somewhere...

i also collected what i thought was the most amazing strain i had the pleasure to smoke,a pure thai,the one made popular,but gaurded tightly,by 20 thai for those who remember,unfortunately it was gaurded a bit to "tightly"and vanished!

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@Elmer, the Meao are much like the Hmong - a hilltribe - but more concentrated in the mountainous areas around Northern Thailand - Chiang Mai.

 

[Raco]

I love this thread!

Epigenetics?

OT1 Haze #1 P1 outdoors...low humidity, 3000+ ft altitude



Indoors, natural light, 30 ft altitude moderate to high humidity



Same cut, indoors 600HPS...high humidity at times LOL

 

[Mustafunk]

I wonder if by 82 the supply was more diverse ? Or like I queried earlier has it been hybridised to allow it to finish in Switzerland ?

Is meao a region in Thailand ?
I searched for Meao all I found was references to Ace or the region in Portugal ??

The Thai 82 was never hybridised or acclimatised in Switzerland, just some test crosses were done by the breeder like for example Madagaskar X Thai. According to what I spoke to him, he only managed to get a decent result after 4 months flowering indoors but probably could go for more. The original seeds collected in Thailand were selected outdoors in greenhouses and reproduced once indoors and sold like that, never worked since then. So they were all Fn+2.

In 1998, most of the swiss breeders and cannabis growers were forced to stop due to the Swiss laws reform and hemp growing prohibition, so all seedbanks were forced to stop working and breeding. They used to breed before because hemp was allowed, no matter if it was a drug strain because they considered everything as hemp. Remember the weed sold there as aromatic hemp bags in the shops during the 90s?

By the way, I'm pretty sure that Meao is a spanish mispelling of Miao people, apart from being what cats say too lol:

The Miao (Chinese: 苗; pinyin: Miáo; Vietnamese: Mèo or H'Mông; Thai: แม้ว (Maew) or ม้ง (Mong); Burmese: mun lu-myo) is an ethnic group recognized by the government of the People's Republic of China (PRC) as one of the 55 official minority groups.

The Miao live primarily in southern China, in the provinces of Guizhou, Hunan, Yunnan, Sichuan, Guangxi, Hainan, Guangdong, and Hubei. Some members of the Miao sub-groups, most notably the Hmong people, have migrated out of China into Southeast Asia (northern Vietnam, Laos, Burma (Myanmar) and Thailand). Following the communist takeover of Laos in 1975, a large group of Hmong refugees resettled in several Western nations, mainly in the United States, France, and Australia.

There has been a recent tendency by Hmong Americans to group all Miao peoples together under the term Hmong because of their disdain for the Chinese term Miao. This however fails to recognize that, while the Hmong are a small nation within the broader linguistic/cultural family of Miao people, the vast majority of Miao people do not classify themselves as Hmong and have their own names for themselves.

By the way, gotta love that Thai'79 from master 20 Foot Thai... been told about him so many times, legendary grower for shizzle!

Vibes!

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day MF

Thanks for taking the time Musta .
I was thinking to myself in the past cpl of days about the time line for Swiss seed banks .

@ Bushie
So ... after some more study .
Seems Hmong and Meao are interchangeable terms . A name for ethic groups from the Golden Triangle up into Sthn China . Yunnan being a region some these people migrated to . That sheds new light on broad leaf drug types from Thailand for me .

Previously I have heard the terms High Land and Low Land types . But not differentiated western and Eastern .

The stick types seem to come from further South and East ? Much flatter and drier over there .


Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Raco]

Here's a 79'Thai that was kept by 20'Thai and shared with a few internet guys like Raco and Charlie.
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20`thai shared with dubi (I never asked LOL) and dubi gifted me a handful of buds

Miao (thx Mustafunk for the clarification) grown by garruman

 

[Thule]

Previously I have heard the terms High Land and Low Land types . But not differentiated western and Eastern .

The stick types seem to come from further South and East ? Much flatter and drier over there .


Thanks for sharin

EB .

Quoting Namkha, who has travelled quite extensively in the area:

"for people who are interested in the geography/ethnobotany of Thai/Lao strains:

far as I can see there are two main centres of quality ganja growing within the Middle Mekong region - with the area of Northern Isan around Nakhon Phanom and the neighbouring bank of the Mekong in Lao PDR being the most famous region

there is a very distinctive strain type from around NP, which is what most people would recognise as classic "Thai"

the strain type RSC has been offering under various names ("Mekong", "Red Thai", "Mango Thai" etc.) comes from slightly further north and west in the same Middle Mekong region - you will see it exported into and out of Thailand, but to find it at source it is easiest to look around the Vientiane Plain and northwards into Lao PDR

(the other quality Thai growing region being the Shan/Tai Yai areas of Northern Thailand and Burma - but these are different strains, even closer to the chinensis genepool I reckon, the ones offered as Highland Thai)"




"I think I know what people mean by "Chocolate Thai" - but I am not sure I know what people mean when they refer to "Lowland Thai" --- ganja I have seen farmers in lowland regions of Thailand growing is the same strain type you will see e.g on places like Koh Chang - i.e. they are all Isan "Middle Mekong" strains as far as I can tell."


So i guess you could say it's the northern part of the triangle where the Thai stick type (if you can call it that) is grown, north eastern Thailand and Laos.


In northern Vietnam the plant grows wild and looks like this

 

[Raco]

Destroyer hybrid ...the father is a Miao dominant one (according to charlie)

 

[Elmer Bud]

G`day Thule

That info is insightful .
My friends in Isaan tell me their herb now comes from further East over the Mekong in Laos .

I would expect indigenous types from different regions would be adapted to the local climates .
The Golden triangle is about 19 / 20 deg lat . So any further Nth is sub tropical .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Rinse]

Raco, that first pic of the ot1 is really something, would be a stealth strain in many parts of the world I think hehe.

Thule, love the Vietnam pic, must say this thread has me craving some airy S.E Asian buds...

Apparently Meao is a derogatory term for highland Thai people?

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings Thai Experts,

I really love this picture:

It is fascinating that these are growing wild in an area that does not seem to support lush growth of other plants. Perhaps because the soil is so poor. Look at all those rocks.

Escaped hemp, non drug plants, in America grow along river banks and road side ditches where the ground is rich or the ground has been overturned by road building and such. The Thai in this picture above seems to be a master of living on the edge of what is possible.

Thanks for all the contributions of you all that have made this thread come alive. Awesome pictures and information. As a lover of the Thai I used to smoke, this is kindling for my spirit.

ThaiBliss

 

[Mtn. Nectar]

can't say enough about the truth that is spoken of in post #211 by bushweed and Rinse............

nice pic's GG.................

ganj on.............

 

[bushweed]

Here some rare shots of some Thai marijuana growing up around Chiang Mai in 1977, ready for the export market...