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The Not So Solventless Clear Concentrate From Harborside!

Drue Bleam

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That's a lie. It's a technology used in other areas of scientific research, but it isn't steam distillation. It's definitely pharmaceutical grade. I wouldn't doubt that big pharma had a hand in inventing this technology. When I was just looking at my research again, the first mention I can find of this method in any reference material is 2005. What the clear people use is a new and improved version and has only been in existence for a couple of years. It incorporates another element of physics into the equation of the method.

Hopefully that's enòugh clues. I don't want to be the one to blow the secret. I'm surprised it has lasted this long. But, once it's out, people will see why only a few people have the ability to make it.

I heard equipment used for packaging makeup was used in the early co2 extraction processes with the psi going up over 3000(if i remember correct), so it's not surprising that someone with a background in chemistry was able to tweek the process in some other way to make 'clear'. I heard those setups were going for 30,000 when people first heard about them, so it makes sense that only certain people have access to it. Apparently it's the same equipment you can use to extract chemicals for explosives? I could have misunderstood what I heard.
 

Drue Bleam

Active member
Centrifugal extraction?

Never knew exactly what it was, just heard about the hurdles one would have to jump to get the equipment and the cost. There was some dude making them for a while... I don't know, I hear so much shit these days I filter out most of it.
 

Cartel530

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Yea you dont need any special machines and this and that. Thats just what happens when your supposed to be a non profit organization and instead of donating the extra money your business makes you spend it on your business as "cost". You can find more about the process very easy if you know where to look. Searches on sites that are meant to teach you extraction and process for manufacturing MDA, MDMA, METH, ETC are a great place to look.

""Never messed with butane, however after a hexane extraction, (why everyone doesn't use hexane to start with I'll never know ) we typically toss a few grams of activated carbon per L of of hexane extract then vacuum filter using your filter of choice.

Additionally in our experience it makes no sense to macerate the leaves and what not as some folks seem to suggest. I mean your target is on the surface of the vegetation and everything that you don't want is internal to the cellulosic biomass, so why disrupt all that shit by grinding macerating, etc. especially if your using butane, as that solvent tends to extract all kinds of garbage that you want to remove post extraction any how...

We actually have some pretty cool pictures I will have to upload showing the visible difference in clarity post exposure to activated carbon. No analytical data as of yet however if clarity is important this is necessary!

Concentrate the extract then re-suspend in absolute ethanol (I am sure >95% would work fine as well). Freeze at -20°C for >24h which precipitates most of the waxes and other non-desirables that made it through the non-polar extraction.

Vacuum filter the ethanolic extract through Whatman 4, and concentrate... perform this multiple times for further purity. I think my beau even performs a final filtration through a 0.2µm nylon membrane.

By this point the extract is clear as a bell and bombshell blonde."
 

krunchbubble

Dear Haters, I Have So Much More For You To Be Mad
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQzneNNdavY

Filter through activated carbon charcoal. SAAAAAAAYYYYY WHHHHHAAAATTTTT????


a few posts down after that post it talks about how the carbon can also remove some of the flavors and smell. Which would be why would then need to add your flavor mix back to the mixture.



Wow! I use stuff exactly like that Norbit, for my moonshine mash! Interesting....
 

theJointedOne

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i saw on the hs menu they had some clear at dam near 90% thc i think,.

never had it, i get high enough from these organic flowers lol
 

UNREGISTRD

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If I told everyone, I couldn't get rich making it. I'm going to explore the avenue I think I need to take in order to obtain the equipment, and if it still can't be obtained, I'll tell the secret. Y'all are gonna feel silly about it too, cause these clear nerds are just stacking cash, and in my estimation this process is 10x easier than making dewaxed shatter.

:laughing: Wow you think your going to get rich!! LMFAO.. Your contributing nothing to this thread.. Take your trolling somewhere else.. Just for that comment you have DISCREDITED yourself to allmeans.. Why are you on a forum then? Discussion is key to knowledge if your not willling to contribute since you already have the answers why dont you move on and start your company already??
Weve already got the cat out the bag! you think your the only one that knows how to use google??? WAKE UP SON!!
 

TickleMyBalls

just don't molest my colas..
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So where's the cat? You haven't posted the real process. It's already and existing process in other industries. But it isn't what you guys have postulated. I can say I only found one picture of this machine on the Internet. It is made by one company.
 

UNREGISTRD

Active member
So where's the cat? You haven't posted the real process. It's already and existing process in other industries. But it isn't what you guys have postulated. I can say I only found one picture of this machine on the Internet. It is made by one company.

:laughing: youve lost all credibility.. Noone cares what you think! NOONE is TicklingyourBalls...You could tell us its made by alien shit and your the only one with it! Good luck son! :dance013:
 

UNREGISTRD

Active member
Bingo. You have to have an in to another process to have access to the equipment.


This process actually has a name already, and no, distillation isn't in the name.


Yeah, except the real tricky part is making it clear and fully potentiating the cannabinoids. Adding terps is the easy part.

If I told everyone, I couldn't get rich making it. I'm going to explore the avenue I think I need to take in order to obtain the equipment, and if it still can't be obtained, I'll tell the secret. Y'all are gonna feel silly about it too, cause these clear nerds are just stacking cash, and in my estimation this process is 10x easier than making dewaxed shatter.

:laughing: These quotes should go up for the Dushbag of the year!
 

UNREGISTRD

Active member
Im not salty at all.. I could care less what you think!

Just posting how stupid you made yourself sound!! Looks like i did my job!
 

G.O. Joe

Well-known member
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Famous GW Pharma patent 7344736 used activated carbon to improve storage stability, but other researchers trying it found unacceptable loss of THC. AC comes in grades with different properties, so it's difficult to give definitive universal advice, except that it's not the best idea.

Steam will be perfect for removing solvent residues - the ring of truth is there - but it will do nothing for high-boiling fatty acids and waxes. For dealing with those, a kugelrohr is called for, when distilled cannabinoid concentrate is OK with everyone. These processes are amongst the simplest and most staightforward in the organic lab.
 

Drue Bleam

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:biggrin:
 

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Sirdabsalot46n2

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This whole situation is just fuct imo...

First, calling it Solventless, now.solvent-free..

When I'm damn near positive it's BHO winterized, then decarbed and out sourced terpenes back in.
Basically
” Artificial Flavoring”

Wtf? This industry is full of fuct off entrepreneurs, that simply want..

to get fucking rich
Nobody gives a fuck about medicine anymore...

All about making money and a popularity contest.
Ole dabs will have to create a new ” industry”..

Where medicine and quality of love is top priory.
Who's with me?

My apologies if my theory above has already covered.
I read the first couple pages and the last couple pages..and had to comment, because this kind of shit is killing the medicinal community.
 
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