Freebies...

[TerpeneTom]

I don't believe this is an appropriate marketing strategy given the variability and specific requirements/grow conditions of commercial/medical/hobby growers. It appears near all current seed providers are following the leader, where someone should offer a different incentive. Differentiate.

Grow endeavors require sufficient knowledge and assets to successfully/effectively produce acceptable "medicine".

Most individuals growing cannabis currently have space requirements (and state mandated plant limits), demanding a set number of plants, which should encourage the grower to choose strains of a specific uniformity and effect.

Growers are heavily involved with their plants, so they search for a specific strain that suits their personal ailments/desires.

The production cycle for cannabis and individual preferences, given the amount of variety and choice available, often encourages consumers to seek a specific strain.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

 

[GSPfan]

Use a scrog and enjoy your freebies.

 

[TerpeneTom]

Hmm, that would certainly be a mess. Effective for a hobbyist grower whose concern is variety, and knows the inevitable difference in growth characteristics of the diverse genetic backgrounds. Ideal production: no.

I guess a distinction is necessary: Seedbanks targeting hobbyist growers, free offerings is an effective strategy. Seedbanks targeting commercial/professional and medicinal (although clones commonly propagated), implement new strategy.

 

[ogrerun]

In todays age, with technology and electronics being available and cheap everywhere and the vast amout of information on books as well as the web about growing or sites like this, just about anybody can put together a space to produce top quallity work...there is so much info out there on just about any strain. With just a bit of research you can find what you need to bang it out

 

[TerpeneTom]

Top quality? That is not too easy to achieve. Possibly, but in an efficient, cost effective manner?

All the information is available, but one must possess more than that to ensure success.

With that much information available...then one should learn that focusing upon one strain will reward them with the greatest return.

 

[ogrerun]

Yes I agree the more time one spends with one strain is better

 

[paladin420]

Many roads to salvation brudda.
And there are some true gems in the freebies

 

[TerpeneTom]

I understand that there are exceptional representations to be found in freebies...but I believe that to be beside the point here.

Those roads require X to get where you are going. Not an easy ride.

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

How could someone not like freebies?

I'd much rather have a pack of seeds over a key chain. What is this is what this thread is about? Wanting some other cheap trinket instead of freebies?

If you don't want them, don't grow them, or give them away.

 

[TerpeneTom]

Because seed could be saved by the seller. Time and resources could be allocated to pursuits which will provide improved returns.

The point has been made, but the development of a new strategy could only be done after thorough analysis of the market. In general, to move away from free offerings. The breeders are devaluing their product.

The breeders do benefit from improved exposure. What is their motive for providing free seeds? Excess supply? Is it exposure? Are they certain of the product and that it will provide superior results? If it did wouldn't they charge a high price?

Do you purchase seed from the breeders of the free seeds you grew? The same strain?

 

[Capt.Ahab]

If iI am not mistaken the original intent of freebies was to have them passed on to others in order to promote the growing of cannabis.

 

[steadydets]

Because seed could be saved by the seller. Time and resources could be allocated to pursuits which will provide improved returns.

The point has been made, but the development of a new strategy could only be done after thorough analysis of the market. In general, to move away from free offerings. The breeders are devaluing their product.

The breeders do benefit from improved exposure. What is their motive for providing free seeds? Excess supply? Is it exposure? Are they certain of the product and that it will provide superior results? If it did wouldn't they charge a high price?

Do you purchase seed from the breeders of the free seeds you grew? The same strain?

So the market provides a free product and for some reason thats an issue?

If your claim is that this leads more individual growers to focus on the particular nuances of many strains rather than locking into the individual characteristics of one, then thats really up to the breeder is it?


Your expecting the breeders to take the seed they give away and apply the saved resources into more r&d? Do you really expect them to actually do that?

I can go into so many examples on where caps were instituted into established markets with the intent of filtering the money into other development streams or programs to pass on the savings to the consumer and that rarely happens.

I'd rather not get into a long discourse but it seems to me the answer to this is obvious.

You are complaining about a "problem" that many people would like to have. Free products.

Enjoy it while it lasts...

 

[steadydets]

I can't edit that post but it should read "then that really isn't up to the breeder, is it?"

Thanks

 

[steadydets]

Yes I agree the more time one spends with one strain is better

Right, but how would recieving many strains with your order prevent that?

 

[steadydets]

Hmm, that would certainly be a mess. Effective for a hobbyist grower whose concern is variety, and knows the inevitable difference in growth characteristics of the diverse genetic backgrounds. Ideal production: no.

I guess a distinction is necessary: Seedbanks targeting hobbyist growers, free offerings is an effective strategy. Seedbanks targeting commercial/professional and medicinal (although clones commonly propagated), implement new strategy.

I don't sense a lot of humility in your posts.

Why did you feel the need to quote medicinal before? Do you not believe marijuana is medicine or has medicinal properties?

When you use phrases like "ideal production" and "effective strategy", those belong in a quarterly report on a publicly listed company rather than a hobby website for pot growing. Even if you are in the commercial side of the game I would find it hard to believe that people would turn their nose up at anything that they might use in the future.


The one thing that no one has brought up yet either is the actual shelf life of seeds. Those could be another reason why the freebies are a great idea for banks, and for that matter, the consumer as well.

 

[Spider Crab]

If you don't like freebies ask for 'no freebies' with your order........

 

[ogrerun]

^^^^

 

[TerpeneTom]

This is not the point. I'm stating if the majority of consumers do not need freebies, then why allocate all these funds and inventory as such. Instead, to create a new strategy that will create more interest.

Thank you, Steadydets. Shelf life is a definite motivator, although these organizations have invested in equipment that will create a perfect environment for seed storage, there must be limited space.

This is from a business perspective, although hoping it would prove beneficial for both the grower and the organization.

The companies are promoting the growth of random seeds which will likely be thrown into the confined growing space that an average medicinal grower is already pressed for. Who are the websites targeting? I stated that for hobbyist producers, then the free seeds will be beneficial, because they only care about variety, not top quality (they may, but they will not achieve) and yield. The medicinal grower should focus much more time into medicinal strains, ones that he has researched online and that will provide the greatest benefit for his patients illnesses.

I put the quotes around medicinal, because this post was originally intended for another forum, where the majority grow for recreation.

 

[Spider Crab]

IDK, i think you are taking the whole freebie thing a bit too serious.

Allocating funds and inventory?

 

[Ph-patrol]

The freebies are there to offset the warranty of germination. That being said i under stand when you spend money on something specific and get old stock and low germ rate the auto white widow will not replace your purchased seeds.
But on the other hand Im eyeing up some Blue chem Esko that are free and im figuring out what to buy to get to them.

Its all good