What's new
  • Happy Birthday ICMag! Been 20 years since Gypsy Nirvana created the forum! We are celebrating with a 4/20 Giveaway and by launching a new Patreon tier called "420club". You can read more here.
  • Important notice: ICMag's T.O.U. has been updated. Please review it here. For your convenience, it is also available in the main forum menu, under 'Quick Links"!

The NEW E-Papillon 1000W Thread

@carravagio, so if I'm understanding correctly, are you saying that a basic electronic ballast such as the Galaxy, lumatek, quantum 1000w ballasts using 240v would be able to ignite the Phillips DE bulbs in these AC/de hoods and the adjust a wing hoods, not really sure if I'm understanding completely or if I'm completely lost

Yes that is exactly right.
 

pHive.8

Vendor
Id like to see any proof at all that a ballast only contributes to a 6% heat increase when left inside a room. That statement coming from DGS who owns a company that sell a light that is ATTACHED to a ballast should be taken with a grain of salt.

The powerconsumption of the Double Ended lamp is 1000W.
The powerconsumption of the ePapillon fixture is 1060W.

So the difference between having only the lamp/reflector system and a complete fixture including electronics in a room is 60W.

I'm no mathmetics genius, but that's 6% if I calculated correctly.
 

theother

Member
Does anyone have any input on running the Phillips de with a. Galaxy ballast (50-60htz) instead of the 90htz recommended by Phillips? I am curious if this will shorten the life of the bulb as we can already see that it does not effect the par in a negative way.
 

liagro

New member
Does anyone have any input on running the Phillips de with a. Galaxy ballast (50-60htz) instead of the 90htz recommended by Phillips? I am curious if this will shorten the life of the bulb as we can already see that it does not effect the par in a negative way.

The Philips DE bulb does not run well on either 50-60hz or 90hz.

This is a high frequent bulb and runs between 90.000 and 180.000 hz depending on the dimming state of the electronic ballast.
 
Hello DGS, I am looking in to switching over to the epaps and have some questions on specs cam I pm you or can u provide me with an email address.

thank you
 

pHive.8

Vendor
For measuring light the measuring field should be a representative part of the lit growroom. In principle, the measuring field should cover three adjacent lamps.

picture.php


Narrow light bundles create high lightlevels on 1 spot, but not on a surface. The ePapillon creates an even lightspread over the canopy. So it doesn’t make sense to measure light only directly under the center of the fixture. Lights should be measured over a complete surface on at least 45 spots.
A measurement on just 1 single spot makes no sense. You could either measure in a peak or in a valley. Both give no representative image of the lightspread and average lightlevel.

Wall-plug efficiency is the energy conversion efficiency with which the system converts electrical power into optical power.

The ePapillon 1000W is fitted with the Philips GreenPower 1000W EL Plus double-ended lamp which has a guaranteed lightoutput of 1925 µmol/s over a period of 10.000 hours. But measurements have shown that Philips is conservative when it comes to claiming the quantity of light coming from the lamp. The Philips GreenPower 1000W lamp gives no less than 2100 µmol/s!
The ePapillon reflector has an efficiency of 95%, which means that 95% of the light coming out of the reflector is reflected to the canopy.
The power consumption of the ePapillon 1000W is 1060W.
This results in a wall-plug efficiency of (2100 µmol/s * 0,95) / 1060W = 1.9 µmol/W

picture.php
 

Quadchomes

New member
Resistive or conductive?

Resistive or conductive?

Hi DGS,
I will be getting some contactors to operate some ePaps. Can you please tell me if the ePaps are considered a resistive or conductive load? Thanks.
 

McKush

Éirinn go Brách
ICMag Donor
Veteran
^^ you may be better off by emailing DGS directly at info@epapillon.com

Although I would love to hear what you have planned. That will dictate how many fixtures to some extent. What ceiling height do you have to work with? Create a thread in the grow room design subforum. Would love to see it come about.

I'm only able to run 2 with my space.
 

Latest posts

Latest posts

Top