Thanks I'll do that.
I'm not going to make a thread. For my purposes, it isn't needed.
Thanks for the advice.
I'm not going to make a thread. For my purposes, it isn't needed.
Thanks for the advice.
The NEW E-Papillon 1000W Thread
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pHive.8
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Hi Backyard Farmer,
We normally advise 1000 micromol/m2s for a room without daylight.
We advise about 500 micromol/m2s for a greenhouse.
I made a tool on the website so you can easily calculate the amount of light you get with a certain amount of fixtures:
http://www.epapillon.com/index.php/estimate
If you are going to grow in a greenhouse, you'll need about 25 fixtures.
If you want to have a lightplan based on you greenhouse, just send me an email and I'll make it for you.
Cheers
Thank you for your prompt response.
pHive.8
Vendor
My room is 10X12 with 3 lights. Is this a good number for my size room
Estimation of lightlevel: 537 µmol/m²s
Estimation of lightlevel: 537 µmol/m²s
I was thinking 6 for my 12x12 room and that comes up a little short. Should I go for 8 lights or is that just over kill?
pHive.8
Vendor
Sure, I would just start with that. If you feel you could use more light you can always buy an extra one.
pHive.8
Vendor
I think 8 might be a bit overkill!
Is 488umol acceptable for greenhouse use? How much is 22 umol really?
pHive.8
Vendor
villain420247
Member
Not 'that' huge...it's 9" or so I think. It's no bigger top-to-glass than a Raptor or similar. I am running 4 of them in a room with a WAY too low of ceiling height and with proper training and canopy maintenance, I am seeing nothing but awesome. The DE lights are significantly brighter to my eye than the brand new Raptors in the same room.
pHive.8
Vendor
There is only a small small amount of UVB in the Philips DE lamps. A UV-filter was added to the quartz glass to filter the UV out.
pHive.8
Vendor
Definately. There are guidelines for retail products like this.
I think it would be hard to say there is even a difference between the DE and a standard 1000 MH bulb.
Getting more UVB out of standard bulbs is not what to look for I guess.
Caravaggio
Member
Ok I picked up some Gavitas and some ePaps. Will post my findings soon.
Initial impressions is the ePaps seem to have a bit nice build quality however the reflector really doesn't seem to throw the light DOWNWARD as much as it should. I def noticed a LOT of light being thrown onto the walls from the ePap.
Im also not sure why the ePaps cost more but no matter who I went through to try and buy them they were basically $75-100 more each. That's substantial if you are growing commercially and need 24-60, not so much in a bedroom grow.
Initial impressions is the ePaps seem to have a bit nice build quality however the reflector really doesn't seem to throw the light DOWNWARD as much as it should. I def noticed a LOT of light being thrown onto the walls from the ePap.
Im also not sure why the ePaps cost more but no matter who I went through to try and buy them they were basically $75-100 more each. That's substantial if you are growing commercially and need 24-60, not so much in a bedroom grow.
you should be able to mount the ePaps lower than the Gavita's, this will reduce the light to the walls. you should maintain 2/3 of the height with the ePap compared to the gavita.
Caravaggio
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