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Will dispensaries ever carry long flower sativas?

MrDank

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most dispensaries would chop an 11 week sativa at 8 weeks

most customers would cry because these fire sativas aren't dense enough
 

Ranger

Member
that "improved quality with longer maturation" description is very interesting. do you think it is due to different terpenes that generate later as the plant is doing more and more to try to get itself ertilized or is it due to some aspect of the thc?

it's absolutely about different terpenes during maturation, i would venture a guess is has something to do with CBD and CBN adding to the mix when left to fully mature.
 

Ranger

Member
A friend on another forum sent me a link to a web site for MMJ. Jack Herrer, trainwreck, SD, ssh ALL labeled as pure sativas :noway:

I do think now that the banks and the fed have worked out a funnel system the writing is on the wall. We will have variety. In my state sativas will thrive, might need a greenhouse for the real long flowering cultivars, but VERY doable. I even have a friend who inherited a farm and is dead set on hemp. Kinky for Ag commissioner!!!!

yeah i see a lot of the miss labeling of different strains. one sure way to tell is flower time. if it's 15 or so weeks or more for flower, it's got a good chance of being a full sativa. anything far below that is more than likely a hybrid.
 

420247

Plant Whisperer
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I think of it like this:

You can make your own pork ribs but it takes time and care.

You can go to a restaurant and have some pork ribs in minutes.

But you will never go to a restaurant and get pork ribs like you would have made at home.

No one will put that kind of time or care into something being sold. Its a much different story when someone is doing something for themselves, than for money.
 

onavelzy

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I think of it like this:

You can make your own pork ribs but it takes time and care.

You can go to a restaurant and have some pork ribs in minutes.

But you will never go to a restaurant and get pork ribs like you would have made at home.

No one will put that kind of time or care into something being sold. Its a much different story when someone is doing something for themselves, than for money.

Oh Dude, you don't want to get the discussion diverted to barbecue. omg, you think there are trolls and haters on grows/breeders/strains threads, try going to some food sites.

there's not much i miss about where i used to live (oklahoma) compared to where I live now, except one thing. barbecue. SoCal really doesn't have it. so yeah, where i live now, your example is correct. where i used to live, that would have been fightin words you said.
 

pinkus

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Plenty of GREAT BBQ where I am... some at home some at the local pits. But I am lucky to surrounded by such great eats :) .
 

Heusinomics

Active member
I agree, sativas are whare it's at!

I thought for sure I'd find "real" sativas in the med community. But alas they are verry few and far between. At least on Menus here in Denver.

I did finaly find a nice 14week Satotri that I have been enjoying a lot. Everyone I smoke out gets a little geeked out and are always impressed w the power and/or energy of such "foregin" smoke!
Devistatingly powerful, def roller coaster type weed. Seems to remind mysrlf and bro of the earlyst memeries of smoking. Geting us really high on sativa heavy herb, like getting the giggles off some swag. It's so dif from the couchlock of the kushes and its worth seeking!
 

HarleyJammer

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Just related to the indo':

If i take 2 clones-one indica dom and a sativa dom-and grow them indoors, what is the time difference?

The indica veges for 6-8 weeks and flowers for another 8 weeks for a total of 14 weeks.

The sativa dom goes into flower as a clone and finishes in 14 to 16 weeks.

Time wise its a draw. Power consumption goes to the indica for longer veg time.

Should the question be "will dispensaries offer lower yeiding sativas?"

.... or am i a dumb stoner?
 

RandyCalifornia

Well endowed member
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stickin in a sat clone into 12/12 will not get you much. As usual it's a little more complicated then what it looks like on the surface.
 
sativas are nice.. and people do love them.. but.. like said already most don't allow them to mature.. because its all about turn over.. getting in as many harvests as possible per year.. per light. so waiting 12-20 weeks for a sativa.. is really not worth it to most that can get 2-3 harvests in the same amount of time....

I grow sativas.. for HEADSMOKE. and for the people who like them they ask for them.. most want hybrids or just indicas . but some have the TASTE for a GOOD SATIVA
 

Morcheeba*

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well I hope to see acres of tropical sativas in greenhouses when fla allows Cannabis as medicine........we have the climate for it.

id love to see a few thousand growing to find the standouts........maybe in a yr or so.


peace
 

HarleyJammer

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stickin in a sat clone into 12/12 will not get you much. As usual it's a little more complicated then what it looks like on the surface.

Right. The yield should be the question, no? Within comparable time frames the sat will yield less. I can guess most that grow for personal do not have 16 foot ceilings to veg a sat for weight.

Again, all this considering the average run of the mill indoor gardener flying under the radar.
 

hush

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Dispensaries... no. But farms... yes!

Once the legal climate changes, just watch, Florida will be growing fields of tropical sativas. No one is going to be growing the indicas or their hybrids in the damp swamp that is Florida. Yet, the climate is perfect for the pure, equatorial sativas! I can't wait, actually. I'm already looking into the possibility of moving back there, since the bill passing through the legislature actually looks like it has a chance of surviving. :D
 

Homebrewer

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'Low yields' have been brought up a few times in this thread but every sativa I've ever grown has yielded better than any high quality indica in my garden. Vigor and final plant size probably have a lot to do with the good yields I see from those sativas but comparatively speaking, high-yielding, cash-cropping indicas are usually garbage.
 
well I hope to see acres of tropical sativas in greenhouses when fla allows Cannabis as medicine........we have the climate for it.

id love to see a few thousand growing to find the standouts........maybe in a yr or so.


peace

You guys get 20+ weeks of flowering time?
 
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Gert Lush

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I think right now it's at the stage where most people just want to get fucked up, not High and for as little cost as possible, mostly as has been said already they do not know the difference and or they are just looking to escape something.

This is so true!

I know a score of people in my immediate circle that not only don't like good sativas, they positively dislike them! They make it plain that they do NOT want anything to activate their minds, they just want a sledgehammer to turn them into zombies. The zombier, the better.

Funnilly enough, they call the sativa varieties "weak", but, of course, will never have a second joint, because it "makes them think too much"...!! Weed is definitely not a tool of discovery for them, but a means of oblivion. We should not forget that these sort of smokers, for better or for worse, are a big part of the cannabis community.
 

Dropped Cat

Six Gummi Bears and Some Scotch
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This is so true!

I know a score of people in my immediate circle that not only don't like good sativas, they positively dislike them! They make it plain that they do NOT want anything to activate their minds, they just want a sledgehammer to turn them into zombies. The zombier, the better.

Funnilly enough, they call the sativa varieties "weak", but, of course, will never have a second joint, because it "makes them think too much"...!! Weed is definitely not a tool of discovery for them, but a means of oblivion. We should not forget that these sort of smokers, for better or for worse, are a big part of the cannabis community.


Emphasis mine.

Culture changes, med use aside, the demand for couch
is due to the massive, frantic sensory jam we call our lives.

As we amp up our daily sensory input, our need to tune
out is paramount. Couch does that for us, no question.

We work more, absorb many hours of data via web and
TV and smartphone. The average first world person is in
a constant state of stimulation of one kind or another.

The lucky few who fully enjoy a sativa also likely have a
modest approach to first world sensory overload.

I personally find sativas totally relaxing in the release
I have yet to find in my Afghans.
 

Gert Lush

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Some good points there, Dropped Cat, and I'm fully with you in finding sativas "relaxing in their release". I guess you have to allow for this release, though, otherwise, you'll always be "thinking too much". Without wanting to get too snooty, I daresay there's an art to smoking (or should that be surfing?) sativas.

On another subject, the funny thing is that some of the first cannabis I found truly releasing and relaxing, was Afghan - hash, back in the day. I wonder if the fact that hash was made with all the plants, allowing for significant presence of CBD, might have given it this quality, which you would struggle to find today with plants totally selected for THC.

So much still that we simply do not know...
 

Dropped Cat

Six Gummi Bears and Some Scotch
Veteran
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Gert Lush again."

Yup. Hash is always good to have. I love hash so much I would take it to the
woodshed and get it pregnant.

Short cure and cut too soon is the hallmark of unloved grown sativas.

Someone mentioned wine production as an analogy to the dichotomy
of broad leaf to narrow leaf.

At its height Beaujolais was more than likely reviewed as vin de merde.

Let's all hope that when sativas become widely available the stuff
is produced for the connoisseur and not the bourgeoisie.
 
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