exactly what i was thinking, if i go no-till won't be "mixing" much at all....
i just can't justify buying a cement mixer, just aint in the cards for me.
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Avi's Fresh Start
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exactly what i was thinking, if i go no-till won't be "mixing" much at all....
i just can't justify buying a cement mixer, just aint in the cards for me.
exactly what i was thinking, if i go no-till won't be "mixing" much at all....
i just can't justify buying a cement mixer, just aint in the cards for me.
Challenge then becomes where to store the damned thing. It's what Alton Brown would call a unitasker
lobsterbush
Member
I love seeing some organic talk up in here Avi.
My stuff has tasted and smoked the best after I started reusing my soil. That being said my small raised beds outside sure appreciated their kickstart from my old soil. Almost time to get some veggies started..
My stuff has tasted and smoked the best after I started reusing my soil. That being said my small raised beds outside sure appreciated their kickstart from my old soil. Almost time to get some veggies started..
Fuck a cement mixer. Buy some worms.
What about all the old roots?
What do you guys do with those? Wont they call bugs to the scene?
Rot other good roots in the pot? I cant see using old soil unless its going outside. I have alot of old soil to bring outside this year.
What do you guys do with those? Wont they call bugs to the scene?
Rot other good roots in the pot? I cant see using old soil unless its going outside. I have alot of old soil to bring outside this year.
Old roots become new food
NoEgoGenetics
Member
shake the rootball out.. toss the big rootball an stem in the trash..
then the old soil is ready to use.. or u can take some Cannazym.. and mix up some water.. ph it.. and let it soak in the soil.. it will break down the roots into food for ur plants..
it really doesn't matter much.. but I don't let the hydro store guys FUCK ME.. if I listened to everything they said.. it would cost me wayyyyy too much to grow.
seriously tell u to use bottled nutes.. tell u to not reuse soil.. that it can cause problems..
tons of misinfo coming out of the hydrostore owners MOUTH
then the old soil is ready to use.. or u can take some Cannazym.. and mix up some water.. ph it.. and let it soak in the soil.. it will break down the roots into food for ur plants..
it really doesn't matter much.. but I don't let the hydro store guys FUCK ME.. if I listened to everything they said.. it would cost me wayyyyy too much to grow.
seriously tell u to use bottled nutes.. tell u to not reuse soil.. that it can cause problems..
tons of misinfo coming out of the hydrostore owners MOUTH
A soil test is cheaper than 16 bales of promix... and used no-till soil has more microbial life than fresh soil. A closet grower is more likely to benefit from using fresh soil each time imo. Personally I'm not looking forward to the day I have to haul 16 bales of promix out of my basement.
Closet grower here, on my 4th year of the same dirt, and been no-till for the past ~ 9 months.
I can't imagine new soil being easier.
big veg
big veg
^^ canopy shot from corner of the room
^^ soil side
^^^ "hydro side"
^^ bucket system surrounded by bigass plants in organic soil
big veg
^^ canopy shot from corner of the room
^^ soil side
^^^ "hydro side"
^^ bucket system surrounded by bigass plants in organic soil
^ cloning closet, i tacked up a heat mat to the back wall to raise temp, but not burn the lil ones.
^^ ROOTS!
look at those roots, looks like the heat mat is doing is job, great stuff all around avi!
1L
1L
SRGB
Member
Avinash.miles:
now that i've switched to an amended organic soil that i feel good about i can start that cycle of re-use and REALLY get myself off of "new soil"
up until now i was only mixing in re-used soil to fresh as needed, sometimes used re-used soil for clones.
Hi, Avinash.miles.
Although we prefer inert volcanic rock as an `organic` medium, we have also experimented with various medium in SRBGB`s; both `organic` and `inorganic`.
One perspective might be that every `thing` that exists is `organic`. Though different media might require different management practices, both for use and/or reuse.
Reuse viability being a primary consideration of the media that we evaluate; along with oxygen capacity, drainage properties, and the media`s water holding properties.
One of the most versatile organic mediums that we found during experiments with SRBGB`s was bark. Bark might be processes to various different particulate sizes; from `fine` bark for cuttings, to medium sized `mulch`, to large grade particulate. Drains well, holds water on its irregular collidial surfaces, maintains its structure to an appreciable degree between multiple seasons, general consistency of the media between the top, middle and bottom portions within a vessel; or, less compaction with larger particles included, providing adequate oxygen/air flow (gas exchange) within the media. Mixing 50/50 large with medium to fine particulate might work well for most applications.
It should be possible to acquire bark chips, mulch or larger particles relatively universally. If acquiring in bulk, the landscape facility itself might do the mixing; whether the constituent parts be part soil, or other aggregate, or a combination of different sizes of just the bark. Or, as we might prefer, medium sized bark mulch mixed with different sized pumice. Should be 100% reusable; and, as might naturally might occur at the forest floor level, should support a diverse range of natural and/or gardener initiated biological activity.
Just sharing a potential soilless, soil, or organic gardening option.
Kind regards,
/SRGB/
now that i've switched to an amended organic soil that i feel good about i can start that cycle of re-use and REALLY get myself off of "new soil"
up until now i was only mixing in re-used soil to fresh as needed, sometimes used re-used soil for clones.
Hi, Avinash.miles.
Although we prefer inert volcanic rock as an `organic` medium, we have also experimented with various medium in SRBGB`s; both `organic` and `inorganic`.
One perspective might be that every `thing` that exists is `organic`. Though different media might require different management practices, both for use and/or reuse.
Reuse viability being a primary consideration of the media that we evaluate; along with oxygen capacity, drainage properties, and the media`s water holding properties.
One of the most versatile organic mediums that we found during experiments with SRBGB`s was bark. Bark might be processes to various different particulate sizes; from `fine` bark for cuttings, to medium sized `mulch`, to large grade particulate. Drains well, holds water on its irregular collidial surfaces, maintains its structure to an appreciable degree between multiple seasons, general consistency of the media between the top, middle and bottom portions within a vessel; or, less compaction with larger particles included, providing adequate oxygen/air flow (gas exchange) within the media. Mixing 50/50 large with medium to fine particulate might work well for most applications.
It should be possible to acquire bark chips, mulch or larger particles relatively universally. If acquiring in bulk, the landscape facility itself might do the mixing; whether the constituent parts be part soil, or other aggregate, or a combination of different sizes of just the bark. Or, as we might prefer, medium sized bark mulch mixed with different sized pumice. Should be 100% reusable; and, as might naturally might occur at the forest floor level, should support a diverse range of natural and/or gardener initiated biological activity.
Just sharing a potential soilless, soil, or organic gardening option.
Kind regards,
/SRGB/
I'm not to ya'll level yet but i will add to what i can.
- I use a goldblatt mud mixer and a drill for my mixing needs as i only do 5m/sq at a time and that only cost 10 bucks.
Root balls will have nothing but a positive effect "IF" you compost it. the root balls actually bring alot of nutrients that have already been processed and a still optimized for uptake so i don't see how you can go wrong. MAYBE if you throw some roots that are infected already (root rot, etc.) then maybe but i have no information to support one way or the other.
- I use a goldblatt mud mixer and a drill for my mixing needs as i only do 5m/sq at a time and that only cost 10 bucks.
Root balls will have nothing but a positive effect "IF" you compost it. the root balls actually bring alot of nutrients that have already been processed and a still optimized for uptake so i don't see how you can go wrong. MAYBE if you throw some roots that are infected already (root rot, etc.) then maybe but i have no information to support one way or the other.
If you're worried about rotting roots killing healthy roots, you don't have a good understanding of biology. When necrotic tissue touches healthy living tissue, the healthy tissue doesn't become necrotic. Tissue becomes necrotic when it stops receiving water, oxygen, and nutrients. It's easier for fungus to break down dead roots, and nearly impossible to infect a healthy root system.
When you buy food at the grocery store, particularly meat... it's in a state of decomposition. It's dead aka necrotic. You put it in your mouth and your tongue doesn't die, etc... that food gets broken down and nutrients are shuttled to healthy living cells.
When you buy food at the grocery store, particularly meat... it's in a state of decomposition. It's dead aka necrotic. You put it in your mouth and your tongue doesn't die, etc... that food gets broken down and nutrients are shuttled to healthy living cells.
@bobble
@bobble
I realize that i misrepresented what i was saying. i said root rot but i guess aphids, mites anything like that i would chuck in the trash but as i said just starting out here so i don't have enough experience to know how that would effect soil after composting.
I also now think he was asking about leaving soil and everything and planting ontop which would just make no logical sense to do IMO.
@bobble
I realize that i misrepresented what i was saying. i said root rot but i guess aphids, mites anything like that i would chuck in the trash but as i said just starting out here so i don't have enough experience to know how that would effect soil after composting.
I also now think he was asking about leaving soil and everything and planting ontop which would just make no logical sense to do IMO.
What you are referring to is called no-till gardening, and studies have shown no-till soil to have more microbial life than tilled soil. That is why you cut the plant at the base, and transplant directly into the old soil. Amendments are top dressed, and if you add worms to an indoor bed they will mechanically mix the soil for you. It's science.
No-till FTW (and FTlaziness)
NoEgoGenetics
Member
most of the places ive found outdoors that no hunters or any traffic.. the soil was garbage and acidic as fuck.. especially the swamps I like to put swamp tubes in.. promix worked great amended..
