Deep Congo

[greenluv707]

you around richard? havent herd from you in a quick sec.

 

[dickwilliams]

Hey how's the deep Congo crowd.
Ive done a little more background checking and as it turns out
The origin of the Congo beans that led to the Canadian clone
Was via an 11pack sent to reeferman from FET
I.e. not from the cbg\ace people.
Best of luck in 014
Last summers project was to take my bx1 back to the Congos and hit them up with
Some of the males from the f1
Peace
Richard

 

[dank.frank]

Good to see you stop in. Glad to hear you are still working with the line...

I've got some Lean Green F2's of your Deep Congo I'm needing to sort out myself still...



dank.Frank

 

[Lean Green]

Hello Richard and Frank!
Interesting bit of info Richard. So what was FET's Congo line? Was it something he collected or bred? A hybrid?
I'm running some of the F2s and F3s at the moment. Looking for breeders in the F2s and running the F3s so that I can cross them with Bangi Haze.

 

[dank.frank]

Good to see you post LG - much respect brother!!! You are always cranking out the uniqueness...



dank.Frank

 

[Raco]

FWIW

FWIW

FET offered f2 seed ...he got the genetics from ACE...

 

[Lean Green]

happy to here the Congo was still most likely a pure line when Richard received it.

To follow up on some of my Dcong crosses I posted in the GHP(GreenHazexPanama) thread- the Dcong x GHP turned out fantastic! Found plants that screamed GHP but took a fraction of the time to finish and one danty purple sativa'ish plant that had the most incredible smell ever.
The Chem DD cross was ok. one out of four girls interested me.
A few years a go a friend ran some LP#1 x Dcong that i made and found some interesting stuff. I should run some , as I'm about out of LP#1 and don't have the clone anymore.

Frank! plant a few of them F2s homie! Be patient with them for the first few weeks and they'll take off.

 

[barefootseeds]

FET offered f2 seed ...he got the genetics from ACE...

So the bc Congo cut came from f2s of ACE Congo?

To funny considering the drama and fighting around the cut

 

[Raco]

So the bc Congo cut came from f2s of ACE Congo?

To funny considering the drama and fighting around the cut

woooopsss...I mean FET got ahold of some ACE genetics (early days) and then offered "f2s"

I don´t know if the congo line was ACE´s but from what I´ve been told years ago, that might very well be true

Sorry about the mess

 

[dickwilliams]

congo origins

congo origins

Interesting raco, reeferman told me that the Congo he got from fet was unrelated and predated the aces Congo so ??
All before my time but would be nice to know exactly when and where Fet got the Congo that reeferman got came from??

woooopsss...I mean FET got ahold of some ACE genetics (early days) and then offered "f2s"

I don´t know if the congo line was ACE´s but from what I´ve been told years ago, that might very well be true

Sorry about the mess

 

[Raco]

Hola Richard, good to see you

well, according to charlie garcia...

La Deep Congo es un F1 de Richard Williams con Congo española que tuvimos en esta casa, llevada por Simpleseeds hace ya unos años para hacer las américas jeje. Utilizada por Reeferman y por Vision Creator, se conserva en esqueje por Canada ya que de 9 semillas puestas salieron 9 hembras. Si la Deep Chunk es variedad pura, el híibrido Deep Congo es F1 real

Esquejes de esta Congo fueron compartidos también con otro criador conocido llamada Breeder Steve y hablan maravillas de ella

Saludos

If I am not wrong, Vision Creator got Congo seeds from here (from Akene/Simpleseed) and made the Congo/Kandahar F1. Deep Congo (Richard Williams) and Red Skunk or Red Congo (sorry cant remember well) from Reeferman uses same Congolese as well. So all 3 hybrids share same congo cuts from Canada. They couldnt get any males but all females when they made the pure congolese...same here!

LMN Congolese is called Bangi, a pure line but different to the one used there adn shared by Akene. They have so different flavours and aromas

Hope I am not wrong If so excuses but I think is correct

best

just talked to LMN... and I was wrong with Congo/Kandahar.. is LMN Bangi in it

best

 

[dickwilliams]

Raco good to hear from you and thanks for the info my friend,
Visioncreator got the seeds from reeferman who got them from fet
You are right that it is the same cut but reeferman told me he got THE seeds from fet and then gave visioncreator 12 seeds and then got the cut from VC so yes, the red Congo and the deep Congo originated from the same cut, the one VC owed reeferman for giving him the seeds and the one VC traded me . reefeman went onto say that it was not the same as ace Congo, but where fet got them from I dont know,
I dont know who fet is so hard for me to go prior to the reeferman story. Perhaps he could chime in.

 

[Lean Green]

So , based on the posts Raco quoted, my decision to cross some Deep Congo to Bangi Haze will kinda be like backcross... sorta

 

[dank.frank]

lol - sort of. Might be more accurate to look it is as a line breeding (Ix) within the same family but representing different phenotypes.

Sort of like Mosca did with his C99 "F1" project - taking two isolated C99 generations that had been breed for generations to represent different aspects of the same family line...and rejoining them to create a pure C99 line that could possess all the original traits in a single seed line again...

Can't really call it a backcross unless you are breeding the same exact pheno back onto itself...

And if I understood the above correctly, it's not the same exact pheno - although it is the same family line...

Correct me if I'm wrong...



dank.Frank

 

[Lean Green]

That makes more since Frank. I was thinking Backcross in a very vague since of the word.

Line breeding is what I've been doing with the Dcong too. Taking one line towards indica and another towards sativa for 2 generations. Then I recombined them in the F4.

 

[Raco]

So , based on the posts Raco quoted, my decision to cross some Deep Congo to Bangi Haze will kinda be like backcross... sorta

Hola LG good to see you too!

It is not..hehe...LMN´s bangi is not the same congolese line

 

[Mustafunk]

You are right that it is the same cut but reeferman told me he got THE seeds from fet [...] reefeman went onto say that it was not the same as ace Congo, but where fet got them from I dont know.

What I don't understand is why you were asking Dubi and Charlie back then about the Congo strain like if they were the only ones who could really know the legit origin or info?

i beleive dubi would clarify to say that the congo 3 is a pure strain making the deep congo a true f1, am i right dubi?.

Zamalito, Congo#3 comes from Cannabiogen. Bangi instead comes from Mano Negra. Both are quite different being banghi little faster and fatter with lemon scents as I tried once while Congo#3 stretchs a little longer and spicied in flavours as Richard defines.

Yes richard, your Congo which is what we call Congo 3 is definatly a pure sativa. The genetics were recollected by a spanish sailor.

very interesting Dubi, and Raco,
I was always so curious where these seeds came from,
thanks to the smart spanish sailor for keeping these seeds.

All that together with last Raco's quotes should clarify all the information. As for the Fet, Reeferman and Vision Creator connection, Charles Scott is around here too in case he has anything interesting to add.

Congolese landraces are the grail I'm chasing so I've been personally following and reading about all this stories about this african strains around Spain with great interest in plenty occasions. Even contacted personally Charlie and other spanish growers who had the so called Congo #3 and also another different strain from Kolmus (Mascobelix) used in CBG's old Congo X Congo#3/Pakistan Chitral hybrid and Congo X Nigerian as well to get more details and stories about this elusive landraces. All ranged from 12 to 14/16 weeks as far as I've read:

There were other Congolese strains around as the ones from LMN, although I honestly think that those pure 8-week congolese and angolese strains have been hybridised somehow. Never seen a pure tropical strain coming from an Equatorial region with 12h photoperiod flowering only in 2 months. You can notice the difference checking by the pictures as well.

Vibes.

 

[Raco]

Great detective work ^ hehe

 

[Scottish Research]

I was gifted Congo BX1 to a Kandahar male. I was told that the mom was the Congo in question. Don't know much about the Kandahar male either. Not sure how old the seeds are. I may need to germinate them soon.

Love this thread guys.

Sr

 

[Raco]

Kaiki´s Congo x Chitral -F2

Here´s the ConChi...(Congo x Chitral )f2

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