So the EPA Contacted me today....

[Granger2]

ESO,
I went to OGBW site. He makes no claims about killing pests. You're the one who is making claims that the mfgr. is not. You have clearly stepped in it. Burn One, speak for yourself. The EPA was created under a Republican President. It was and is needed. Without it we'd all be at the mercy of snake oil salesman and worse, the giant corps that would pollute everything and everyone, and market poisons regardless of anyone's health. -granger

 

[mojave green]

eso,
the feds will drag you through the mud, tear off your head and shit down your windpipe. they have unlimited funds to prosecute those whom they choose. right or wrong. there is nothing fair or even handed in who they choose to prosecute. DO NOT FUK WITH THEM, REALLY. you can't afford it.

 

[h.h.]

The EPA was created under a Republican President.

That explains it. You take a good policy, you fuck it up, then you blame the policy for what you fucked up.
We fall for it every time. We claim victim, as we threaten to cut our own throats. We never do though. We just whine instead.

 

[h.h.]

eso,
the feds will drag you through the mud, tear off your head and shit down your windpipe. they have unlimited funds to prosecute those whom they choose. right or wrong. there is nothing fair or even handed in who they choose to prosecute. DO NOT FUK WITH THEM, REALLY. you can't afford it.

If you're in SB county, I can understand your point.
You familiar with Lanny?
http://www.marijuananews.org/

 

[h.h.]

ABOUT EPA LABELS: All of the Food Grade DE that we sell is exactly the same product on the inside, but there is a very important difference in the labeling. Because DE kills insects, only when used for that purpose, it falls under EPA regulatory control. All of the claims that we make on this site about killing insects can only be made on food grade DE with the EPA label on it. We sell the EPA labeled product in 5 and 50 lb. bags. We also sell the NON-EPA labled 50 lb. bag. Most of our packaging reflects general use, and therefore has no EPA label on it. If you purchase the non-EPA labeled product, you acknowledge that you are buying the diatomaceous earth for some other purpose than for killing insects.

http://www.earthworkshealth.com/products.php

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

Nothing better than getting advice to "obey the law" on a cannabis growing website.

Is there a bigger irony?

 

[stoned-trout]

if ya wanna play the game you got to follow the rules....I don't like the game so I don't play as I have problem with authority

 

[dank.frank]

Nothing better than getting advice to "obey the law" on a cannabis growing website.

Is there a bigger irony?

There is a big difference between people who are looking to grow a black market product and those that are looking to operate a legal business...

The issues is, your store could exist even without cannabis as you have a market potential that is far greater reaching into other fields of agricultural production.

When you make legal dollars - you follow legalities.

I'd suggest the same thing to anyone operating a dispensary or openly being a medical grower for patients.

If you put yourself in a position to where compliance is mandated - comply.

I see absolutely no conflict in that scenario - that is simply the conditions in which ALL legal businesses must operate in order to be successful - or at least not end up in governmental cross-hairs.

Running a business, full time - even something you enjoy very dearly - is never exactly "fun" or all it is cracked up to be. It becomes WORK. Always. That is why I've always been adverse to the notion of doing what you love for a living, because the chances are, doing it for work, will diminish your love of it.

Honestly - it is VERY easy to change your labels. It does NOT prevent you sharing with customers who call on the phone or visit your retail location that particular products have multiple benefits / uses.



dank.Frank

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

I have another business that we have had for 11 years, and it is still one of the funnest things I get to do.

I think something for everyone to keep in mind is that I hate the Government so much I have planned to move out of the Country, and give up my citizenship for decades.

That goal will be achieved sooner than later.

I have a small problem with authority clearly.

 

[h.h.]

Nothing better than getting advice to "obey the law" on a cannabis growing website.

Is there a bigger irony?

Do I hear a call for civil unrest in Denver? Yes there is a bigger irony. You're just looking in the wrong direction.
This is an organic website as well as a grow site. A few of us are kind of into that environmental thing. Organics is a little more than just fucking char and tea brewers. I use a lot of DE for one reason or another, but I don't make money on it. I certainly don't ship it across the country calling it pesticide. You're on a whole different platform and you just can't see.

 

[diggdugg]

Mr. Eureka Spring,
GOOD on you sir!!! I know the feeling and it's infuriating. OUR federal government is way too big, intusive and expensive. Respect to you for not being a pushover. And I also wonder what king of putrid soul would work for the government.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

Do I hear a call for civil unrest in Denver? Yes there is a bigger irony. You're just looking in the wrong direction.
This is an organic website as well as a grow site. A few of us are kind of into that environmental thing. Organics is a little more than just fucking char and tea brewers. I use a lot of DE for one reason or another, but I don't make money on it. I certainly don't ship it across the country calling it pesticide. You're on a whole different platform and you just can't see.

"Laws" are words on a piece of paper. Words are sounds created by humans to collectively agree on what they "mean."

I did not vote for said "laws", I don't agree with said "laws", and I won't abide by said "laws."

I don't believe anyone person has authority over the other. I certainly don't agree that a group of people(the Government) has any power more than I do.

That is why I am closing my business, and refusing to play the game.

I don't know what your environmental rant has to do with anything. Seems like a waste of text to me.

 

[trichrider]

if you want to use their money you'll play their rules. that's the reality.
bugger the epa off by changing labels, no big deal...it naturally damages pests' exoskeletons eliminating or reducing reproduction capacities.

regulated by epa

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC35078#Regulatory

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

That is why I am closing my business, and refusing to play the game.

quote]

You showed them.


There will always be a "Man" no matter what country you run to.

 

[fabvariousk]

I would tell them that I am currently producing a high protein nutritional supplement in my balls they are welcome to try...but I am not a business owner.

 

[Eureka Springs Organics]

I would tell them that I am currently producing a high protein nutritional supplement in my balls they are welcome to try...but I am not a business owner.

Where were you a few days ago?

I would have emailed this to them in a heart beat.

 

[rives]

This has descended into absurdity. If you are incapable of understanding why it is desirable for pesticides to be regulated, and how you have placed yourself into that arena, then it is probably just as well that you no longer vend products to the public. Let me guess - I bet that you think that the government does a poor job of regulating "big pharma" and "big agri-business", but that they should ignore you because of..........something.

 

[h.h.]

"Laws" are words on a piece of paper. Words are sounds created by humans to collectively agree on what they "mean."

I did not vote for said "laws", I don't agree with said "laws", and I won't abide by said "laws."

I don't believe anyone person has authority over the other. I certainly don't agree that a group of people(the Government) has any power more than I do.

That is why I am closing my business, and refusing to play the game.

I don't know what your environmental rant has to do with anything. Seems like a waste of text to me.

I'm happy for you.
You're right, the environmental rant was a waste of text. It fell on closed ears. But then, we should focus on the positive, you're closing your business.
Next in line?

 

[RB56]

You showed them.


There will always be a "Man" no matter what country you run to.

My thought exactly. Girlfriend won't have sex with you? Cut off your dick to teach her a lesson.

 

[SativaBreather]

Funny enough I was hearing on the news today that the epa is issuing new rules for "organic/natural farming methods" things like you cant mix your own compost on site, it will need to be done in an epa approved fertilizer manufacturing plant. Things like stopping people from claiming DE has pesticide properties. Sort of like how its illegal for you to claim water haydrates you. Because that claim has not been proven by the fda.

So you want organic huh. Well looks like you will have to get your organic gardening supplies from a biotech firm.

they're scum aren't they?