DabLab Reloaded-- back to vertville

[mr. gt]

papaduc your last sentence.. you mean 4 sides of crop surrounding 1 light?

 

[papaduc]

Yep. Plants can be mobile too. Don't have to be trained to a wall for vertical.

 

[Ttystikk]

thanks for sharing your thoughts. Heath is like a hero to me. His octagon grow with 1 600 was extremely impressive. He is THE reason that I now believe that there is no limit as to where you can grow meaning walls, ceiling, floor, having a octagon with a swinging door with plants on it ect ect.... He is getting great gpw ( I think like 2.12 or something) BUT I'm pretty sure he was using a 8' diameter circle. I realize his goal was to get high GPW but I'm sure he could've added another 600 watt or 2 stacked to get more yield per sq ft but less gpw. All depends on your goal. Speaking of which may I ask what your goals are? Whether its keeping low plant count, low..ish.. power usage... ect??

Going to certain places, meeting certain people made me realize how important it is to have short term, medium, and long term goals. Most importantly what you can do today to get closer to reaching those goals. Even more importantly never giving up on those goals no matter what comes in your way. (the reason I'm moving to a rec. state to live my dream)

I always think extreme. I not sure if your worried about plant counts but have you ever considered if you kept the main room the same to add shelves and try some soil plants against the uncovered walls or behind the main crop. You could add a second screen so they would stay behind the main crop. Whatever yield you got would just be a bonus and could even use it to make more oil even if the plants are half ass!

What about some individual scrog soil plants scattered on the floor under the lights. I've seen people put scrog soil grows with the screen attached to the pot so the pot is moveable if you need to move it to walk around. You could also do mixed strains, if you want, since you can water them individually. Once again I don't think it would interfere (I could be wrong) and it would appear to be bonus yield. More work of course.

To be even more exteme.. .. you could even scrog on the ceiling with a bit of imagination.. might mess up the airflow..

I'm here to think outside of the box with you. It would be mostly theory but I am always here to help people the best I can.

Don't get me wrong. Your plants are beautiful and I love the colors of your babies! I am a huge lurker as you can tell by my post count but am trying to get more involved in the community. I am on the site everyday checking out new posts on the 'my posts' list.

I love your motivation on taking on a greenhouse also, taking on separating the main room ect ect. If you did separate the main room in half you would get an extra 2 walls the width of the room. I can not do the math since I'm not sure of your room dimensions. But it seems like a significant amount and may not need as many lights and can move the lights elsewhere.

Sorry I have so many questions but is it possible to stack the lights? Or is the heat a problem or is there a reason why you cant? What if it was a 400 or 600 underneath.

I would love to see you split the room into 2 or 3 smaller so you have more walls to grow on. Not sure if you actually have the length but from the pics it seems like you can add a couple more walls. Have (2) 1k watts on top with a 600 or 400 under those (2) 1k watters in each of the smaller rooms with crops on all 4 walls. Wish I could come smoke a l.. or dabs ... with you to talk for hours on how to maximize.


anyways I am very impressed by the scale of the grow and your skills even if I am giving constructive criticism and seem to be coming off like an ass. Thanks for your time sharing your thoughts with me. It is helping me a lot (probably more than just me) understanding large scale stuff like this, especially since I will have a full size bedroom to live my dream in about 8 months.

Good vibes to you mr dabs. Don't give up on your dreams!

~mr. gt

You want extreme, peep what I'm working on. Dabs is an inspiration to me too!

I do hope you're coming to Colorado? Hint, hint?

 

[Ttystikk]

Yep. Plants can be mobile too. Don't have to be trained to a wall for vertical.

I found this useful during veg. But once I clip them to a trellis, they're done moving for the duration anyway.

This is my first full vertical run, but I'm expecting more than 1gpw. I can already see that much!

 

[frankenstein2]

Quote from dabs:"I've been thinking more and more about getting some land and getting a greenhouse going...Dont have time this summer, but I could check out massive ppk's... see if i can get one plant all the way through, and try to upsize the system next summer?"

"Haha, I dont know."


A giant ppk outdoors sounds fucking awesome!!!!!! I wish I could do it where I live. 26 gallon trash can on top of a recessed 55 gallon drum, with a giant few hundred gallon res!!!!! One of you legal fuckers in co. or ca. need to try it!!!

 

[DabOnDabs]

I'm on it my ninj! How sketch is it to grow a 10x10x12 plant in a home built greenhouse in the back with a lock. Lol

 

[lvtokerr]

I'm on it my ninj! How sketch is it to grow a 10x10x12 plant in a home built greenhouse in the back with a lock. Lol

I know a guy in Aurora that had a huge hoop house with 2-3 dozen ladies in 7 gals. He pussed out with winter storm rolling in and whacked em 2 weeks early.

 

[DabOnDabs]

Final Pull:

16+ Lbs Nightmare OG
13 oz "Girl Scout Cookies- Aka lime smelling haze"
6 Lbs sugar trim and larf


Upfront costs:
8 Ballasts
12 Bulbs
8 Sockets
2 Intake Fans
2 Carbon Filters
Couple other things

Total--$2500

Electricity 3 months @ avg $750

Total--$2250

Nutrients - Jacks Hydro + shit laying around

Total -- $95


So the question: Can you do a 12k grow in the winter using the cold ass air as A/C... You sure as hell can... Still didnt hit 2+ per light, but I'm actually elated by the fact that I just grew almost 20 - 1 LB plants. If this nightmare grew donkey dicks, the yield would certainly be higher...But I'm happy. Really happy.

MY buddy borrowed my camera to take pictures of retarted kids for a school project (no joke), but I have these ones on my phone.

 

[DabOnDabs]

Next round is getting REALLY big lol.

Gonna throw the 8 NM OG + 8 Girl Scout hazy pussy under 6k as soon as I can get it resetup...

Then gonna throw the 30+ Unsexed multistrain test grow under their own 6k, watering by hand till I Figure out how many ladies there are and I'll build a autowater for the remaineder of flower.. ~2 weeks behind the other grow.

 

[Sleeper7784]

Dabs I think you did great bro. Fuck the world! As long as your bills are paid, and your jars are filled, that's all that matter.

To pull insane yields you've got to dial in so many factors and variables, including finding your keeper strains and learning how they need to be trained for maximum performance. It could take years to accomplish. Just stay persistent and keep advancing your knowledge.

 

[Mr Blah]

Good Job Dabs!

 

[Sleeper7784]

Next round is getting REALLY big lol.

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Gonna throw the 8 NM OG + 8 Girl Scout hazy pussy under 6k as soon as I can get it resetup...

Then gonna throw the 30+ Unsexed multistrain test grow under their own 6k, watering by hand till I Figure out how many ladies there are and I'll build a autowater for the remaineder of flower.. ~2 weeks behind the other grow.

Damn they are huge! Your almost outta head space. Looking great tho.

 

[DabOnDabs]

Thanks guys. So much work to do for next round. Gotta get started

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

Straight stellar work done Broha..

Lined up and primed for another round,Nice!
Keep killing it brother,one hella good show ya put on...

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Don't let AD know you are reloading he will turn you into the power company.

 

[DamnUglyDogE]

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[DabOnDabs]

Straight stellar work done Broha..

Lined up and primed for another round,Nice!
Keep killing it brother,one hella good show ya put on...

Thanks for stayin tuned brotha man! Still lots of learning to do but I think you'd be impressed with the quality of this bud. Some of the best bud I've seen in a LONG LONG time, if i do say so myself of course

You need to get on that sin city steeze brotha. This shits frosty as a motha fucka.... She would do nicely with some of your crosses im sure

Im gettin my camera back tonight, so I can show you some finished shots. Judge for yourself

Don't let AD know you are reloading he will turn you into the power company.

Seriously. How you gonna go and add an A/C and bump your powerbill to almost as high as mine?

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GET OUT OF WHATEVER ASSOCIATION YOUR IN MAN, and GO PRO!

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Seriously. How you gonna go and add an A/C and bump your powerbill to almost as high as mine?

Shoot my power bill was $745 last month. I run about 7k 24/7 with no AC. Just using my -19F outside air to cool last night.

 

[DabOnDabs]

Shoot my power bill was $745 last month. I run about 7k 24/7 with no AC. Just using my -19F outside air to cool last night.

Sounds about right...

12k 12 hrs a day + 3k @50% 24hrs + 1 8 bulb t5 24hrs + fans + furnace is about $800 for me. using my 0 Kelvin outside temperatures

 

[Ichabod Crane]

using my 0 Kelvin outside temperatures

O Kelvin huh, you must be right on the tundra. I am to steps off of the tundra. You know just north of Canada.