Weed MD

[bigbag]

thought med-man was all about the lowest priced meds ?

 

[med-man]

i thought big bag read the posts first before replying lol haha

med-man

 

[bigbag]

did you say " I know you are, but what am I ", as a child ?

 

[tomjonesthe3rd]

Not trying to fuel the fires of a fight...

But...

Obviously both of you haven't kept up on what the "College of Physicians" across Canada, has advocated as to there policy toward Medical MJ. A policy, that all Doctors are expected to adapt, under threat of action from the College if not adopted. The College is absolutely against the new MMPR program, as they are against the MMAR program. The College of Physicians is and has been extremely clear on there policy, which is...They are not going to be the gate keepers to a program that allows the use of a unapproved FDA drug. Now that leaves, the unscrupulous Doctors, which will see massive profits to be gained with the void created by the College's policy. These doctors will be setting up all the Clinics and Skype programs that you are referring, which will take care of any patient that wants a signature...For a price.


PS. I resent the statement, that insinuates, I forget to use my noggin

And I find the notion that you think we 'haven't kept up on what the college of physicians have said' is silly.

You're basically taking what they've said (which is widely publicized and oft-quoted, it's not some secret) and interpretting it to mean that NO doctors will sign. But the fact is, there are doctors already signing. Their College's official position on it does not mean no doctors can sign. It's just how the deal with the legal obligations the MMPR has put on them. It's their way of saying 'we don't want to do this, but we will'.

Like I said, there are already dozens of LP's already paying people to go hype medical marijuana to doctors. There are numerous advocacy groups (http://globalnews.ca/news/1149230/watch-medical-marijuana-perception-changes/) forming, and opinions are changing.

You're spending so much time assuming MMPR will fail, you aren't really understanding the information you're even reading. But I would love to make a wager with any of you folks who thinks it will fail. Name your terms

 

[tomjonesthe3rd]

Im not a conspiracy theorist nut by any means but.........Seems very coincidental that a couple of the state's in a country that, until recently, used to have very harsh penalties for anything to do with weed........ even arresting licensed med patients, makes recreactional use legal........ and our government makes harsher terms for our med pot program.......Specifically production. It would definately help those states economy and hurt ours by restricting an open market in our country for these products. Kinda like the states is positioning themselves to be the world tourism destination for pot smoking.......alot of money up for grabs, be really enticing to a country that had alot of debt and was fighting a war for more than a decade..............Just seems really coincidental.

Beaker

It's a noteworthy theory. What comes to my mind in terms of rebuttal is that legalization in various US states (recreational and medical) has already drastically reduced exports to the US from Canada.

If anything, the tightening of restrictions under the MMPR will only raise black market prices within canada, so if there's a conspiracy, it's one that *helps* the Canadian black market.

 

[tomjonesthe3rd]

hey joyride

if you are in the u.s., and want goo, green weed, expect to cough up 20-30 a gram. we are still way below the u.s. statud quo for decent greens

med-man

Maybe somewhere int he deep south or something. An Oz in California is about 1-200. That same zip in NYC would be maybe 2-400. 30 a gram is pricing from like 2 decades ago, unless you live in bfe.

 

[Buds Bundy]

If anything, the tightening of restrictions under the MMPR will only raise black market prices within Canada, so if there's a conspiracy, it's one that *helps* the Canadian black market.

Mostly likely wont as there is a ceiling now of what legal weed costs. The black market evolves to what is needed. Since the price of legal weed is going to be at current + black market prices the black market just has to drop the price by 30%. The illegal growers also have very small overhead. No income/cpp taxes no corporate tax and etc...

At least in bc I can't see illegal weed going past $2K per lb and might even stay at $1600 for local buyers.

 

[Buddha1]

And I find the notion that you think we 'haven't kept up on what the college of physicians have said' is silly.

You're basically taking what they've said (which is widely publicized and oft-quoted, it's not some secret) and interpretting it to mean that NO doctors will sign. But the fact is, there are doctors already signing. Their College's official position on it does not mean no doctors can sign. It's just how the deal with the legal obligations the MMPR has put on them. It's their way of saying 'we don't want to do this, but we will'.

Like I said, there are already dozens of LP's already paying people to go hype medical marijuana to doctors. There are numerous advocacy groups (http://globalnews.ca/news/1149230/watch-medical-marijuana-perception-changes/) forming, and opinions are changing.

You're spending so much time assuming MMPR will fail, you aren't really understanding the information you're even reading. But I would love to make a wager with any of you folks who thinks it will fail. Name your terms

You really shouldn't put words in others mouths or assume how they think.

I don't spend all my time assuming the MMPR will fail. I actually think the MMPR could be a good program with a few proper changes, it would work for those that can afford to always buy there meds. The MMPR has good points and bad points, just as the MMAR program dose. If you really want to know how or what I'm thinking in regaurds to the current Medical MJ question, it's very simple...Allow the MMAR and MMPR run together...concurrently.

I think the MMAR and the MMPR should run concurrently, these two programs together will cover any and all patients needs. A patient shouldn't be forced to just grow there Medicine and/or be forced to only buy there Medicine. Even when the MMAR was the only program available, patients had a choice to either buy from Health Canada or grow there own medicine. With the MMPR this choice has been removed, along with, concentrates, and any and all edibles.

The reason I don't expect a lot of Doctors signing, is because of the time and trouble it took me to convince my GP to sign and the stories from friends and others, that I've heard in the past 10 years about not being able to find kind Doctors. Add this to the policy of the "College of Physicians", now and in the past. Anyone can logically see a very big problem, a problem that did exist with the MMAR and still exist with the MMPR. I have no doubt that the LP's will get there client lists filled, but it will most likely, IMO...come from private clinics, financed and run by the LP's themselves.

Like I said, there are already dozens of LP's already paying people to go hype medical marijuana to doctors. There are numerous advocacy groups (http://globalnews.ca/news/1149230/watch-medical-marijuana-perception-changes/) forming, and opinions are changing.

I don't doubt that everything you say in the above quote is in fact true. But just because the LP's have hired lobbyists and are raising awareness with educating the Doctors about Medical MJ, in no means, indicates the Doctors are signing or will sign. You need hard facts and statistics to convince me and many others that have been dealing with Medical MJ issues for many years, not just a press release or two from the publicist or the press agent of a lobbyist group paid by the Commercial Producers.

Could it be possible...that the roles here are in fact, reversed. And that it is you that are spending so much time assuming the MMPR will not fail, that you can't except the facts or opinions of others. Or could it be that you are just a paid lobbyist for the LP's, paid to sway the public opinion in there favor. LMAO, Sorry...I'm just busting your balls, to make a point. As you can see, it's very easy to twist someones opinion to suit your thinking and to discredit them. Allow others to have there opinions based on the information available to them, stop assuming you know whats in other peoples thoughts, comment on what you know or if its just your own thoughts use the acronyms..."IMO" or "IMHO".

Peace...B

PS...I apologize to all the members in this thread for this long rant...I just can't stand having words put in my mouth or being told what or how I'm thinking.

 

[VanCitysFinest]

hey joyride

good call

about pricing. if you are in the u.s., and want goo, green weed, expect to cough up 20-30 a gram. we are still way below the u.s. statud quo for decent greens

med-man

dude... cali, colorado and washington dispos are giving the stuff away... even if its somewhat beast-like it's still "green" in New Mexico.

I'm told retailers are greatful receiving 150-200 a zip in med-states, for triple A trees.

Even if people double up that's still only 400$ in non-med states

the tidal wave flood is upon us, and prices will keep declining

IMHO.

 

[Buds Bundy]

Like I said, there are already dozens of LP's already paying people to go hype medical marijuana to doctors.

Hmm let see a few companies run by ex illegal growers hiring some $30K per year sales people to peddle "Medical Cannabis" vs a multi billion dollar industry who already has the doctors on their side.

Why didn't these people put all this effort into demystifying cannabis to doctors in MMAR times? Oh that's right the smell of money just wasn't that strong.

Several year back my wife was trying to get her family doctor to get me in as I didn't have one and we were going to talk to them about cannaibs. The doc and her husband where both retiring soon from the practice. Well they both straight up said now way to cannabis.

What funny is my wife could get ANY drugs for depression/anxiety/muscle relaxants she wanted from her doctor since in their office they had a whole room dedicated to samples. LOL she didn't have to visit the pharmacy much and we had shit load of cyclobenzaprine in the house. Seems that was the docs fav pill?

One time the wife was chatting with the receptionist who was all excited about a new coffee maker they won from some contest a pharma company had or something like that LOL

 

[med-man]

dude... cali, colorado and washington dispos are giving the stuff away... even if its somewhat beast-like it's still "green" in New Mexico.

I'm told retailers are greatful receiving 150-200 a zip in med-states, for triple A trees.

Even if people double up that's still only 400$ in non-med states

the tidal wave flood is upon us, and prices will keep declining

IMHO.

the 100 year drought is upon california. dont bet on it

med-man

 

[Hillside Grower]

Are there lobbyists for brokers?

 

[tomjonesthe3rd]

Hmm let see a few companies run by ex illegal growers hiring some $30K per year sales people to peddle "Medical Cannabis" vs a multi billion dollar industry who already has the doctors on their side.

You moved the goalposts. Versus? I stated no dichotomy.

Why didn't these people put all this effort into demystifying cannabis to doctors in MMAR times? Oh that's right the smell of money just wasn't that strong.

Yes, money. What does that have to do with my argument. I didnt say LP's are altruistic fairies.

Several year back my wife was trying to get her family doctor to get me in as I didn't have one and we were going to talk to them about cannaibs. The doc and her husband where both retiring soon from the practice. Well they both straight up said now way to cannabis.

Okay? And this relates to my very specific point how?

 

[rongillispei]

I am a finance person, so numbers matter. First, there isn't one LP that's released any type of financial info outside of what they expect in sales (if you combine all the LP's already approved, the market is going to be flooded)

Also, there is so much disinformation going on...a lot is to do with trying to scare others from trying to enter the market, ready to build approval from HC (this is nothing but boilerplate being sent to applicants so they "think" the process is moving) or the pre production liscense (this too isn't what these companies have suggested it means)....the rest is to pump up their OTC stock...

I mean has anyone looked at any of the financials related to any of our LP's? There are so many backroom deals going on and these aren't stupid people running the LP's, so they know how to hide these "inter-company" transactions, valuations, market value and debt incurred.....read the notes to financial statements for FITX (who has a subsidiary in Canada for their POSSIBLE operation).....they received a loan of $6MM from a company that was owned 50% by the current CEO (no longer though since this transaction was discovered) as well as stock swaps to buy companies, which they then wrote off, in some cases the complete investment.......also, Goodwill??? Who uses that anymore.....it's not worth anything .............

Anyway, I just think that people have to look into these companies before a) investing or b) trying to enter the LP market on your own.....it's not as BIG BUSINESS as one might believe

Also, the big business co's that are all about bottom line won't last...so the smaller players out there are the better long term investments I believe........hedging my own bets in case my application isn't approved.....in the mean time, even if I get these letters from HC, I will not be presenting them to the media as a basic RUBBER STAMP and they'll be approved

 

[med-man]

big news from med-man brand over the next week or 2.

i am shutting everyone down, thats the news. join me, or lose it all, thats my free financial
advice

med-man

 

[mojoman]

big news from med-man brand over the next week or 2.

i am shutting everyone down, thats the news. join me, or lose it all, thats my free financial
advice

med-man

ya know MM....you seem to know your shit...but if that ego ever entered my home, it would get TKO'd in a heart beat...mebbe check the "I'm better than the rest" attitude at the door and folk may take you seriously...'till then most folk will see you as the kid who thinks he knows everything and has to tell it to the world....just sayin'...stay safe!!!




mojo

 

[med-man]

hey mojo

its a sad shame in this day and age people have a tough time seperating confidence from arrogance. just saying

truth is, i gave up caring what others thought of me ages ago. maybe highschool. never been an issue for me. this has nothing to do with ego and everything to do with destiny.

i hope you realize "ego" means identity right? you best believe i know who i am, where i am going and what i am doing, with no exaggerated importance on the self, just TCB

from a psychological perspective, people will generally describe themselves whilst trying to do it for others. its know as projection.

my whole line up of product will be - the most awarded strains, nutes, systems and methods to come out of canada. do i really need to say much more? there is no other company like mine in the world. i wouldnt consider being proud of my baby having anything to do with egomania, sorry

med-man

 

[rongillispei]

If you need help with financials / banking / government lending programs, I'm quite useful in that arena. If I could only combine my business (numbers) / sales experience with someone that not only knows their crop, but also has manufacturing knowledge.....we could knock it out of the park!!!

The LP's that are there now, have no clue on the industry as a whole. A lot is just talk and unfortunately some "creative" financial reporting!!!!l...... One has to weed through the disinformation they create! CEN being the best example, they have a "ready to build" letter from HC, which is NOTHING, just boilerplate text sent to most every applicant, however CEN is using it in the US as a way to drum up investment dollars, but STILL has no liscense....

FITX is another that's big now but likely to collapse once their financial transactions come out, Forbes magazine

http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2014/03/26/high-times-inside-the-pot-stock-bubble/

Anyway, my plan is to build a BUSINESS, not just for a quick buck. I believe this BRAND NEW industry is ripe, because even though there is the "first mover advantage" here, it's like any other new industry, the market will weed out the bad ones.....

Also, another BIG player in the US industry had stock halted (did you know this is the 6th MMJ stock to be halted)......

 

[med-man]

hey wrongillispei

did you know that 3 out of the 4 offers i got from lp's didnt know what a formal offer of emplyment was? lol or a business proposal for that matter.

this is business, the growing trophy quads is the easy part

med-man

 

[med-man]

ya know MM....you seem to know your shit...but if that ego ever entered my home, it would get TKO'd in a heart beat...mebbe check the "I'm better than the rest" attitude at the door and folk may take you seriously...'till then most folk will see you as the kid who thinks he knows everything and has to tell it to the world....just sayin'...stay safe!!!




mojo

“The Greatest prison that people live in is the Fear of what other people think.”
David Icke

caring what others think is egmania. not caring and being yourself is the opposite

didnt you know that my med-man ic method is critics to crickets?

med-man