Extraction tube size and amount of material

[Jnugg]

Thinking about making my own extraction tube out of 1.5" I.D. SS sanitary spool from glaciertank.com and have some questions.

So I came across a thread on another forum where a member made their own extraction tube from a 1.5" SS sanitary spool from glaciertanks.com and a few other parts by them.

The thread can be seen HERE

Now,I recall seeing GW say that a 1.5" x 24" column can fit about 150 grams of material.I'm looking to do 3 to 4 ounce runs so I'm assuming a 1.5" x 18" column/extraction tube,correct?

Also,later in the thread they recommend using a mouthpiece from a metal pipe/bowl as the entry point for the nozzle on the butane cans.Anyone know a better alternative,possibly from glaciertanks.com?

It's either that,or have a friend that blows glass make me a 38mm I.D. x 18" glass extraction tube.

GW...any input from you would be greatly appreciated!

I tend to break my nugs down off the stem,but not broken up or ground/cut up.

 

[Jnugg]

Alright,so nevermind the SS mouthpiece from a bowl,that's fir some retarded small extractor later in the thread.

Here's my parts list so far

1) 1.5" x 18" SS Sanitary Spool

2) TriClamp PTFE Gasket 1 1/2" White FDA Compliant

3) TriClamp 1"-1 1/2" Single Hinge Heavy Duty Stainless Steel SS304

4) NPT 1/4" Female to 1 1/2" TriClamp Stainless Steel SS304

5) Teflon Butane Nozzle Adaptor with 1/4x1/4 Lead Free Brass Nipple

I want to use the Teflon butane nozzle adapter with 1/4" x 1/4" lead free brass nipple from Tamisium because it won't allow butane leaks while blasting.But I'm assuming in order to use it I'd need to replace the 1/4" female to 1.5" tri-clamp NPT adapter for a 1/4" MALE to 1.5" tri-clamp NPT adapter...correct?

 

[co2extractor]

Small Batches

Small Batches

Keep it small about 1/2-1 oz batches. Keep the constructiion tight about 0.25" I.D. The plant matter will be the cause of product loss as it starts acting like a sponge retaining oils and solvent. Filtration should be kept minimal where needed and w a sinster funnel and slight vacuum should be employed. Only if I have several pieces of debris do I filter or if activated charcoal and diatomatious earth have been used but I hate using those methods vs having segregated batches run clean over and over. Pulling out a litttle batch to filter isn't as bad as pooling them together and having a blow out on a big batch.

Thinking about making my own extraction tube out of 1.5" I.D. SS sanitary spool from glaciertank.com and have some questions.

So I came across a thread on another forum where a member made their own extraction tube from a 1.5" SS sanitary spool from glaciertanks.com and a few other parts by them.

The thread can be seen HERE

Now,I recall seeing GW say that a 1.5" x 24" column can fit about 150 grams of material.I'm looking to do 3 to 4 ounce runs so I'm assuming a 1.5" x 18" column/extraction tube,correct?

Also,later in the thread they recommend using a mouthpiece from a metal pipe/bowl as the entry point for the nozzle on the butane cans.Anyone know a better alternative,possibly from glaciertanks.com?

It's either that,or have a friend that blows glass make me a 38mm I.D. x 18" glass extraction tube.

GW...any input from you would be greatly appreciated!

I tend to break my nugs down off the stem,but not broken up or ground/cut up.

 

[Jnugg]

If I wanted to continue doing 1/2 ounce runs I'd stick with the SS turkey baster lol.

.25" I.D. that's retarded small...nope,1.5" I.D. for me.I want to do larger runs (2 to 4 ounces) so I don't have to do a shit ton of different extractions (packing,unpacking,etc.).

I'll be getting my single or 2 stage vacuum pump in a month or two as well as a 3 gallon vacuum chamber (vacpro,vac it pro,whatever it is called) that is 10" x 10" on the bottom.


GW...where are you homie?!

 

[Jnugg]

Alright,so nevermind the SS mouthpiece from a bowl,that's fir some retarded small extractor later in the thread.

Here's my parts list so far

1) 1.5" x 18" SS Sanitary Spool

2) TriClamp PTFE Gasket 1 1/2" White FDA Compliant

3) TriClamp 1"-1 1/2" Single Hinge Heavy Duty Stainless Steel SS304

4) NPT 1/4" Female to 1 1/2" TriClamp Stainless Steel SS304

5) Teflon Butane Nozzle Adaptor with 1/4x1/4 Lead Free Brass Nipple

I want to use the Teflon butane nozzle adapter with 1/4" x 1/4" lead free brass nipple from Tamisium because it won't allow butane leaks while blasting.But I'm assuming in order to use it I'd need to replace the 1/4" female to 1.5" tri-clamp NPT adapter for a 1/4" MALE to 1.5" tri-clamp NPT adapter...correct?

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[RHH]

If you are only blasting 100g at a time(and I'm assuming not that often?) I wouldn't invest in a closed loop extractor.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Thinking about making my own extraction tube out of 1.5" I.D. SS sanitary spool from glaciertank.com and have some questions.

So I came across a thread on another forum where a member made their own extraction tube from a 1.5" SS sanitary spool from glaciertanks.com and a few other parts by them.

The thread can be seen HERE

Now,I recall seeing GW say that a 1.5" x 24" column can fit about 150 grams of material.I'm looking to do 3 to 4 ounce runs so I'm assuming a 1.5" x 18" column/extraction tube,correct?

Also,later in the thread they recommend using a mouthpiece from a metal pipe/bowl as the entry point for the nozzle on the butane cans.Anyone know a better alternative,possibly from glaciertanks.com?

It's either that,or have a friend that blows glass make me a 38mm I.D. x 18" glass extraction tube.

GW...any input from you would be greatly appreciated!

I tend to break my nugs down off the stem,but not broken up or ground/cut up.

150 grams is what it would hold ground to a 10 mesh and dried to about 10% moisture content. Broken up loosely it will only hold about 80% of that, or about 120 grams.

If you get a 1 1/2" endcap to 1/4" Female NPT adapter from Glacier, and then screw a 1/4" stainless or brass pipe plug in the 1/4" NPT hole, you can simply drill a 1/8" hole through it for the injection port.

You can also drill a plain blank end cap, but use lots of cutting oil as 304SS is tough and galls. Rape seed oil works well, or Canola in a pinch, as it was bred from the Rapeseed plant. Best luck with a cobalt drill bit.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Alright,so nevermind the SS mouthpiece from a bowl,that's fir some retarded small extractor later in the thread.

Here's my parts list so far

1) 1.5" x 18" SS Sanitary Spool

2) TriClamp PTFE Gasket 1 1/2" White FDA Compliant

Recommend Viton or Buna N, for a tight seal with less pressure.

3) TriClamp 1"-1 1/2" Single Hinge Heavy Duty Stainless Steel SS304

4) NPT 1/4" Female to 1 1/2" TriClamp Stainless Steel SS304

5) Teflon Butane Nozzle Adaptor with 1/4x1/4 Lead Free Brass Nipple

Use a drilled blank end cap or drill a pipe plug

I want to use the Teflon butane nozzle adapter with 1/4" x 1/4" lead free brass nipple from Tamisium because it won't allow butane leaks while blasting.But I'm assuming in order to use it I'd need to replace the 1/4" female to 1.5" tri-clamp NPT adapter for a 1/4" MALE to 1.5" tri-clamp NPT adapter...correct?

If you really want a tight seal, use a side can tapper, and attach it with a 1/4" male NPT to 1/4" male flare and refrigeration hose.

http://www.amazon.com/Robinair-10102-Side-R134A-Respective/dp/B0009XT7NY

http://www.jbind.com/products/product-search-detail.aspx?SKU=CLV-6R

 

[Jnugg]

If you are only blasting 100g at a time(and I'm assuming not that often?) I wouldn't invest in a closed loop extractor.

Lol,nobody said anything about a closed loop ststem bro lol!

 

[Kcar]

Just get someone to drill a 3/16 hole in the center of the top cap, and you
can use the nozzles that come with the cans.

 

[RHH]

Lol,nobody said anything about a closed loop ststem bro lol!

Ohhh, my bad =x.

 

[Jnugg]

Okay,did a little more research in the original thread at the other site and here's my latest parts list...

1) 1.5" x 18" SS Sanitary Spool

2) TriClamp BUNA-N Screen Gasket 20 mesh 1 1/2 "

3) TriClamp 1"-1 1/2" Single Hinge Heavy Duty Stainless Steel SS304

4) NPT 1/4" Female to 1 1/2" TriClamp Stainless Steel SS304

5) Teflon Butane Nozzle Adaptor with 1/4x1/4 Lead Free Brass Nipple


One question though.Does the Tamisium teflon butane nozzle adapter come with the nipple a.k.a. 1/4" male x 1/4" male adapter that will screw into the glaciertanks 1/4" female to 1.5" triclamp npt adapter (part 4 in my list) or will I need to buy one of THESE?

 

[Gray Wolf]

Okay,did a little more research in the original thread at the other site and here's my latest parts list...

1) 1.5" x 18" SS Sanitary Spool

2) TriClamp BUNA-N Screen Gasket 20 mesh 1 1/2 "

3) TriClamp 1"-1 1/2" Single Hinge Heavy Duty Stainless Steel SS304

4) NPT 1/4" Female to 1 1/2" TriClamp Stainless Steel SS304

5) Teflon Butane Nozzle Adaptor with 1/4x1/4 Lead Free Brass Nipple


One question though.Does the Tamisium teflon butane nozzle adapter come with the nipple a.k.a. 1/4" male x 1/4" male adapter that will screw into the glaciertanks 1/4" female to 1.5" triclamp npt adapter (part 4 in my list) or will I need to buy one of THESE?

Why do you need a Tamisium butane nozzle adapter in the first place. What is wrong with the ones that come in the can lid?

 

[Jnugg]

Nothing wrong with the nozzles on the can but in the original thread at tokecity the OP removed the link to the adapter he first used saying it was dangerous/had to modify with a drill,and leaked butane from pressure build up in the extractor.

Another poster added to use the tamisium butane nozzle adapter because of no need to modify and it won't allow butane to leak out the top while blasting.

That poster also mentione leaks when changing cans and advised/used a ball valve on top to shut/close when changing cans to keep pressure in the extractor up.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Nothing wrong with the nozzles on the can but in the original thread at tokecity the OP removed the link to the adapter he first used saying it was dangerous/had to modify with a drill,and leaked butane from pressure build up in the extractor.

Another poster added to use the tamisium butane nozzle adapter because of no need to modify and it won't allow butane to leak out the top while blasting.

That poster also mentione leaks when changing cans and advised/used a ball valve on top to shut/close when changing cans to keep pressure in the extractor up.

Never had a problem with an adapter not sealing, but you are right about them spitting back when you remove the can. Most of us just put our finger over it.

A check valve would fix that, but all check valves have flow losses that slow things down. Does the Tamisium adapter have one?

 

[Jnugg]

Finger...makes sense!

From what I gather,no,the tamisium butane nozzle adapter does not have a check valve/ball valve.It's simply a teflon butane nozzle adapter...

It says it comes with nipple which I assume is one of these...

Which would screw into the 1/4" female to 1.5" npt adapter seen below that fits on the top of the 1.5" x 18" SS Sanitary spool via the 1" to 1.5" triclamp.

Wanting to do it this way,because the OP stated that butane sprayed out around the nozzle while blasting.

Just trying to make the thing as efficient as possible.

Appreciate the help brother Graywolf!

 

[Jnugg]

So a member at the site I found this DIY extraction tube at confirmed that YES,the teflon butane nozzle adapter does come with the 1/4" male x 1/4" male NPT nipple/adapter.


This should be one solid extractiin tube!

Juzt wondering if I should get one more 1.5" 20 mesh screened gasket and 1.5" triclamp for the bottom to prevent a blowout through the unbleached coffee filters.

I'll be ordering and starting construction by April.

Now to find a decent Vacuum chamber because all the ones on ebay and amazon have only 1/2" to 3/4" lids which Greywolf advises against.

 

[Calimed]

Just ordered up 2 24" tubes in this configuration with ball valves at the intake to reduce back pressure when changing cans. Went with plain gaskets instead of mesh due to cost.

Now to work on a collection and recovery tank...

Almost didn't order the tami nozzle adapter, never had to go through so many hoops to order something online!

 

[Kcar]

GW's can tapper idea was awesome!

 

[triple3]

Calimed- would you be so kind as to list the parts you purchased in your build? I would like to build similar but with ball valves top and bottom to allow a soak-i also like GW's idea of using a can tapper with this unit-thanks!