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T5, Maxigrow and Waterfarm grow.
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CaStoner
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The big female is responding to the high E.C of 3.0 and the buds are exploding finally and the E.C keeps dropping I checked this morning and it was 2.82 now down to 2.7 E.C and she is starting to take off. Usually High intensity lighting is needed to match the higher E.C so I'm not sure what going on here, I'm guessing Sea-Crop but the other plant will not tolerate the higher E.C so possibly strain related somehow, anyways back on track.
Maybe I'll keep pushing her, but she responding well now.
Feed her E.C 3.28, dropped to 2.99 next step E.C 3.75
Maybe I'll keep pushing her, but she responding well now.
Feed her E.C 3.28, dropped to 2.99 next step E.C 3.75
DrDee
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CaStoner,
When first reading about hydro, it was commonly said that one reason for the rapid growth is that the plant doesn't need to grow such large roots...because the nutrients are brought to the roots. I worried that by drilling out the holes and allowing the roots to grow down into the res...that I was risking root rot. So that's probably the reason why people put airstones in the bottom pot. Doesn't it then become a sort of DWC/top drip hybrid? That's my thinking on the subject.
I don't know what those conversion factors are on your EC meter...but those are some heroic nute strengths. Watch the leaf tips.
Peace,
DrDee
When first reading about hydro, it was commonly said that one reason for the rapid growth is that the plant doesn't need to grow such large roots...because the nutrients are brought to the roots. I worried that by drilling out the holes and allowing the roots to grow down into the res...that I was risking root rot. So that's probably the reason why people put airstones in the bottom pot. Doesn't it then become a sort of DWC/top drip hybrid? That's my thinking on the subject.
I don't know what those conversion factors are on your EC meter...but those are some heroic nute strengths. Watch the leaf tips.
Peace,
DrDee
If you want to know a bit more on the 'roots in the water'. Search Kratke on youtube. Kratke is a Univ. Prof. who says that you don't need air bubbles to keep the roots good in water, but you do need some of them exposed to air above the water. Some good video if/when you're in the mood.
I currently have a Jilly Beans in a large Peanut Butter jar, 2" net pot, and mounted in a foam disk. Roots look good so far. Got it in Botanicare Pro Bloom, to get it to show sex. Don't ask, Screwed up records... what plant did this cut come from???? lol Made beans already, so don't need a male. Duh!
CaStoner
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Check this out double chamber bubbler the roots won't allow the water to drain, it will sit like this for hours, so if I can't drain it bubble it. Four air lines one in each corner.
I have to lift the feed pipe slightly to drain it, no other way. I recycle so doesn't it stagnate. Sometimes growing weed is a P.I.A!
20 T5's in action. The towel is for some Humidity.
I took the big female up to E.C 4.0 2800 ppm finally she went the other way started to rise seems like once she got her fill she had enough, now she back to normal I got her at 1.5 E.C will see..
I have to lift the feed pipe slightly to drain it, no other way. I recycle so doesn't it stagnate. Sometimes growing weed is a P.I.A!
20 T5's in action. The towel is for some Humidity.
I took the big female up to E.C 4.0 2800 ppm finally she went the other way started to rise seems like once she got her fill she had enough, now she back to normal I got her at 1.5 E.C will see..
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AshitMyself
Your plants look amazing that stem is huge them buds look tasty
DrDee
Member
CaStoner,
Well Dude, I have to give you points for creative problem solving. Plants are too large to pick up and cure the blockage I assume.
Your plants look great and are packing on the buds better then I ever expected with a T5. I can't believe that EC 4 feeding with no burn. Nicely done on that.
@ 2 Legal Co,
Hey thanks for that reference. His name is spelled with a Y fyi...Kratky, but I found the videos and downloaded a PDF on his hydro method. I've never heard that before but it explains a lot. Like why Hempy buckets work w/o root rot problems. As long as some roots are in the air to absorb oxygen. Very interesting. And indeed, he is a horticultural Professor in Hawaii so he must know his stuff.
Cheers guys,
DrDee
Well Dude, I have to give you points for creative problem solving. Plants are too large to pick up and cure the blockage I assume.
Your plants look great and are packing on the buds better then I ever expected with a T5. I can't believe that EC 4 feeding with no burn. Nicely done on that.
@ 2 Legal Co,
Hey thanks for that reference. His name is spelled with a Y fyi...Kratky, but I found the videos and downloaded a PDF on his hydro method. I've never heard that before but it explains a lot. Like why Hempy buckets work w/o root rot problems. As long as some roots are in the air to absorb oxygen. Very interesting. And indeed, he is a horticultural Professor in Hawaii so he must know his stuff.
Cheers guys,
DrDee
Pophamseasmoke
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Looks good and green up in here!!
CaStoner
Member
Thanks guys, It might have been the Sea-crop that allowed it to go so high, yet I was unable to do it with the other strain. T5 works great, I kind of wished the other plant was also the same strain as this one.
The Bushy one buds are firm.
8 Weeks update.
She back on track.
A few set backs it will be a late finisher.
The Bushy one buds are firm.
8 Weeks update.
She back on track.
A few set backs it will be a late finisher.
Thx for the correction Dr., I seem to have forgotten most of my grammar and spelling skills. Oh well.
Glad you found the material. I found it most interesting. Goes against some of the 'rules' eh? NOT however, as productive as it is with bubbles, from my rather limited experience........ and with heavy drinkers like weed, you do need to add water along the way.
DrDee
Member
CaStoner,
Hey, you didn't go wrong. you just took a more conservative mainstream approach. But a Waterfarm is a perfect example of how the Kratky theory works. With roots exposed to air and aerated nute solution in the top bucket...an airstone down below isn't needed.
@ 3 Legal Co...the spelling thing wasn't a problem. Lots of unrelated hits using Kratke so I added the word hydroponics and the search engine corrected the spelling for me.
Far as faster/better growth with aeration...that's yet to be proven. Hempy growers seem to be happy with the growth rate they get. I'm going to watch more of his vids to see if he addresses that issue.
Later guys,
DrDee
Hey, you didn't go wrong. you just took a more conservative mainstream approach. But a Waterfarm is a perfect example of how the Kratky theory works. With roots exposed to air and aerated nute solution in the top bucket...an airstone down below isn't needed.
@ 3 Legal Co...the spelling thing wasn't a problem. Lots of unrelated hits using Kratke so I added the word hydroponics and the search engine corrected the spelling for me.
Far as faster/better growth with aeration...that's yet to be proven. Hempy growers seem to be happy with the growth rate they get. I'm going to watch more of his vids to see if he addresses that issue.
Later guys,
DrDee
Don't know if I like it that well.... I still add an airstone to everything I can. Only thing I with no air is the one Peanutbutter jar..... and that's just to verify sex on a 'mother'. ....
Yeah I'm a dummy sometimes. So embarrassing.
I only mentioned Kratky as a 'what if'.
My current experiment is DWC (single Homers not plumbed). Airstones in them originally. Some now have an 'airlift' (like an aquarium Under Gravel filter lift), that pumps the water up and dumps it on the lava rock. It then gets to flow over the rocks and roots back to the bottom.
I did leave two buckets with just airstones, for comparison. Also have one of the same Bubblegum Pheno in dirt. We'll see. Today is 21 days of 12/12.
This BG pheno is sative leaning and these are Leggy bitches. Oh yes, and they stretch bigtime. Hoping they've stopped now.
I surely do like what you are doing in this run with the multiple fixture program.
DrDee;
I've only been at this hobby for a short time now. (viewing lots of youtube stuff).... Of course till I've done it myself, it's just 'heresay'. Some on youtube don't have a clue..... and no inclination to purchase. lol Interesting ideas though.
CaStoner
Member
What it did for me was I realized I was over filling the res leaving very little room for the Air roots so the Big female filled the top bucket jammed packed no wonder nothing would drain now I got a huge air chamber for both buckets now leaving lot of room to grow air roots.
I'm still using the air stones, just more air space chamber.
I'm still using the air stones, just more air space chamber.
Stoner
That sounds like a winner from what I'm experiencing.
That sounds like a winner from what I'm experiencing.
CaStoner
Member
Thanks, The Big female Autumn days. She fading fast!
The leaf has actually been preparing for autumn since it started to grow in the spring. At the base of each leaf is a special layer of cells called the "abscission" or separation layer. All summer, small tubes which pass through this layer carry water into the leaf, and food back to the tree. In the fall, the cells of the abscission layer begin to swell and form a cork-like material, reducing and finally cutting off flow between leaf and tree. Glucose and waste products are trapped in the leaf. Without fresh water to renew it, chlorophyll begins to disappear.
As the bottom cells in the separation layer form a seal between leaf and tree, the cells in the top of the separation layer begin to disintegrate. They form a tear-line, and eventually the leaf is blown away or simply falls from the tree.
The leaf has actually been preparing for autumn since it started to grow in the spring. At the base of each leaf is a special layer of cells called the "abscission" or separation layer. All summer, small tubes which pass through this layer carry water into the leaf, and food back to the tree. In the fall, the cells of the abscission layer begin to swell and form a cork-like material, reducing and finally cutting off flow between leaf and tree. Glucose and waste products are trapped in the leaf. Without fresh water to renew it, chlorophyll begins to disappear.
As the bottom cells in the separation layer form a seal between leaf and tree, the cells in the top of the separation layer begin to disintegrate. They form a tear-line, and eventually the leaf is blown away or simply falls from the tree.
