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Gee, am i the only one who sees the very first Stoner Bowl?

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Howdy neighbors,

Just wanted to share a little color on a cold winter morning.

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These 2 plants are from a pack of Dutch Passion Original Flo purhased in 2002. Popped the last 2 seeds out of this pack in 2009. One plant was a sativa leaning female, very potent with a long lasting high. The other was a short, stout male with more indica looking grow pattern and more color. Used these to make seeds and stored them properly for later use. Kinda forgot about them until a few months ago and they germed with ease and I selected these 2 from a half dozen or so to finish.

These are at 65 days, but seem a little behind so I will continue a few more days before chop. They both have a strong, unique aroma which I have never been able to describe very well. They both are much more leafy than I expected but I think that was my fault, maybe too much nitrogen.

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This is a cross I made using the same flo female with a Blubonic male. It's a plant that has been revegged and flowered along with the 2 flo girls. Great cherry cough drop aroma with a touch of grapefruit. Can't wait til this one cures!

KS

Hey Keif;

Just curious as to how you store your seeds. You keep them in freezer or just cool or what.

I'm asking cause it sounds like you have stored seeds for 4 years very successfully.

After doing some research, I've decided to keep mine in the freezer, and i'm wondering how much (or little) I'm gaining by doing so. It does seem that the 'heritage' seed banks keep their's in cold storage as well.

Inquiring minds and all that, ya know.
 
I do have some silk that works better...... but takes more maintenance.... and I'm lazy.

Soooo,,,, I spend time wearing out the seat of my waders, watching the world go by.

I do have a 1wt that is really sloppy... grass of course.

Favorite is a bamboo ferruled, hollow built, 5wt 3 piece. Western River Special. But that's a whole nother story.

And my ties are plumb UGLY. They do however catch a few fish. My flies present well as 'cripples'. lol

Hey Doc; Are you up in the Valley much?
I live in the lower valley. Below the Pueblo Reservoir the Arkansas River passes less than a 1/2 mile from my house. I spend most of my time through that area since my Aunt sold her place up in Cotapaxi...That was litterally less than 100 feet from some of the best fishing i have ever found...boy how i miss that place.
 

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I live in the lower valley. Below the Pueblo Reservoir the Arkansas River passes less than a 1/2 mile from my house. I spend most of my time through that area since my Aunt sold her place up in Cotapaxi...That was litterally less than 100 feet from some of the best fishing i have ever found...boy how i miss that place.

I understand the loss.

I'm between Salida and Leadville LOL, wouldn't want to be too much more specific just yet. But on the river pretty much.

Smaller fish up there.
 
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Hey Keif;

Just curious as to how you store your seeds. You keep them in freezer or just cool or what.

I'm asking cause it sounds like you have stored seeds for 4 years very successfully.

After doing some research, I've decided to keep mine in the freezer, and i'm wondering how much (or little) I'm gaining by doing so. It does seem that the 'heritage' seed banks keep their's in cold storage as well.

Inquiring minds and all that, ya know.

Hi Legal,

No, I don't use fridge or freezer. I have a crawl space under a portion of my home that is cool, dark and dry pretty much the year round. I just save my presciption med bottles and store seeds without any drying agent inside. My first adventure in seedmaking was in 2007 using pollen from a very nice hashberry-mandala crossed to a Flo girl. I had no idea how little pollen was required to make lots of seeds so when the HB male started dropping clouds of pollen I would shake the plant several times a day for at least a week. I ended up with 2 large pill bottles full to the brim. So I have seeds that are almost 7 years old that I often test maybe 10-15 at a time and they almost all pop in 24-48 hours. I just keep the bottles in a plastic container in the crawlspace and that works for me. Low humidity and dark-cool seems to do the trick.

KS
 
Some of the best nug I ever had I got fairly regularly when I lived in Boulder around 2001, it use to coat the bag with crystals like nothing else, every zip would have 3 or 4 seeds, but they weren't regularly seeds they were GIANT, like five times the size of any seed I've ever seen since. It's a long shot but anybody know any strains that produce monster sized seeds like that or know what it might have been
 
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Some of the best nug I ever had I got fairly regularly when I lived in Boulder around 2001, it use to coat the bag with crystals like nothing else, every zip would have 3 or 4 seeds, but they weren't regularly seeds they were GIANT, like five times the size of any seed I've ever seen since. It's a long shot but anybody know any strains that produce monster sized seeds like that or know what it might have been



The seeds on the left are some freebies (OH x sk1) and on the right are Blubonic from spice of life seeds. Could have been several others, certainly Blue Satellite 2.2 also comes to mind. Personally have never seen any bigger than these.

KS
 

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Hi Legal,

No, I don't use fridge or freezer. I have a crawl space under a portion of my home that is cool, dark and dry pretty much the year round. I just save my presciption med bottles and store seeds without any drying agent inside. My first adventure in seedmaking was in 2007 using pollen from a very nice hashberry-mandala crossed to a Flo girl. I had no idea how little pollen was required to make lots of seeds so when the HB male started dropping clouds of pollen I would shake the plant several times a day for at least a week. I ended up with 2 large pill bottles full to the brim. So I have seeds that are almost 7 years old that I often test maybe 10-15 at a time and they almost all pop in 24-48 hours. I just keep the bottles in a plastic container in the crawlspace and that works for me. Low humidity and dark-cool seems to do the trick.

KS

Thx Keif

I haven't accumulated much/many, as of yet. Have just a few Oregon Grape (local sourcing), AK47, and Jilly Beans. Not much of a Bank yet but don't want them to degrade any faster than I can help.

Now if I can just get these White Russians and Bubblegums to seed, just a little....... lol
 
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Now if I can just get these White Russians and Bubblegums to seed, just a little....... lol[/quote]


Yeah, after that lesson, I began to carefully, with a small brush, sprinkle pollen on a couple of lower bud branches to make maybe 200 or so if that. That early experience with the massive pollenation did have a very benifical advantage in that I had good quality and viable seeds to do trial and error. Allowed me to fine tune germination and seedling stage and not be bothered that I was throwing away perfectly good popped and started seedlings.

Sounds like you have a good start with your collection, and besides, how many seeds can you possibly use if your growing legal numbers anyway. I only have a handful of strains myself and I know I have more than I can possibly ever grow.

And yet still I yearn for more.

KS
 
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Anyone else visit the dispensary in Carbondale? Pretty disappointing jars of shake yesterday, after half hour lines, and closed for restocking today. Not organic and the girl scout cookies was average stuff, edibles were disappointing.
 

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Now if I can just get these White Russians and Bubblegums to seed, just a little....... lol


Yeah, after that lesson, I began to carefully, with a small brush, sprinkle pollen on a couple of lower bud branches to make maybe 200 or so if that. That early experience with the massive pollenation did have a very benifical advantage in that I had good quality and viable seeds to do trial and error. Allowed me to fine tune germination and seedling stage and not be bothered that I was throwing away perfectly good popped and started seedlings.

Sounds like you have a good start with your collection, and besides, how many seeds can you possibly use if your growing legal numbers anyway. I only have a handful of strains myself and I know I have more than I can possibly ever grow.

And yet still I yearn for more.

KS[/QUOTE]

Very good point, on the numbers. I'm finding it tough to stay legal. But it is doable. May start using clones instead of seed, when they are available. The selection on CL is getting extensive.

Of course I'm going to have to get rid of some of my cuts/clones If I want to add more strains. lol It IS a tough life we lead, no?

Haven't been in the retail outlets yet. I'll wait for the new to wear off before I even think of playing tourist. Besides I like the price of my herb WAY better than their prices.

Think I'd like to add Durban Poison to my genetics collection too.

By the way I used a Q tip for the pollen when I made AK47 seeds. Just pollinated a couple of small clones for that project. A friend of mine pointed out recently that growing is a really good retirement hobby. Except it ties you down a bit too much. Think I'll shut it down for the summer and spend some time fishing.
 
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I guess I finally feel like venting, this probably deserves its own thread, but i'm more of a shadow than a spotlight, so letting it fade away into the depths of our dear CO discussion suites me just fine.

Wife had a severe medical incident, was hospitalized, and diagnosed with a life threatening, life long condition. This came in the midst of large plans on our part, grow expansions, family expansions, etc, and it threw all these plants into disarray. I lost it for a bit, my wife is my rock, and living in constant fear that she might have another incident and be lost to me forever took a huge psychological toll while we waiting for her follow-up appointment, I was a wreck, and all my grows showed it, where normally I am able to cockily proclaim my buds are large, clean, and delicious, for a while I was fighting outbreaks of spider mites, our old winter friend powdery mildew, and failures on my part in judgement. I placed my faith in the wrong people, and I paid dearly for it, and then when I was finally handed the right people, I was so frazzled that I didn't even know how to handle them, and almost alienated them entirely! My two superiors, my assistant grower, my facilities man, and last but certainly never least my wife, were all there to help me, but somehow I still came to the brink of failure, mostly due to my own inability to accept help from others, instead taking things upon myself, increasing my stress, and pushing me to the absolute breaking point.

There have been some nasty, nasty incidents, a fever of 103 that forced my wife to drive in to care for my plants despite the fact that the snow was pouring down that day, she absolutely despises driving in the snow, skidding terrifies her, so had I not literally been boiling in my own juices, I would have managed to get dressed before her and drive rather than forcing her to do, her boots have a zipper and mine have laces so that was honestly a dirty pull. That was my first "day off" in close to 2 months before that, and each "day off" before that consisted of me coming into work for a shorter than normal period rather than my normal 6-12 hours, 7 days a week, without fail, for... it gets hazy after that long, everything sort of blends together, I just remember my old assistant being fired, and then I worked for a very long time... Balance is needed for sustainability to be achieved, this is true in all things, and I think I have finally learned to accept this in regards to expansion of my grow for rec, with the help from the right people.

Why? Simply stress? Too long without real time off? People pay shrinks tons of money for much simpler breakthroughs than that, but it appears as though things are finally coming back together, and I may become reactive here.

Red Eye: All your testers have popped, and are growing, i'll do a thread for them soon.

Connoisseur: ECSD x SC, ECSD x SSSDH, and have grown out and been sorted, photos will not be available for ALL the different phenotypes which popped up, but there will be thorough reports on the keeper mothers, both of whom are delicious.

Karma: If you are still visiting this site, your AG13x Biker seeds were lovely, and you will receive the same kind of data as Connoisseur, if you prefer I post it elsewhere, please pm me and I will do so, or if I don't hear from you, i'll contact you elsewhere.

kruatalos: You da man, you have shown amazing pics of SBJ, and any time you'd like to try some new elites, please arrange another trip to Elitch :)
 
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I guess I finally feel like venting, this probably deserves its own thread, but i'm more of a shadow than a spotlight, so letting it fade away into the depths of our dear CO discussion suites me just fine.

Wife had a severe medical incident, was hospitalized, and diagnosed with a life threatening, life long condition. This came in the midst of large plans on our part, grow expansions, family expansions, etc, and it threw all these plants into disarray. I lost it for a bit, my wife is my rock, and living in constant fear that she might have another incident and be lost to me forever took a huge psychological toll while we waiting for her follow-up appointment, I was a wreck, and all my grows showed it, where normally I am able to cockily proclaim my buds are large, clean, and delicious, for a while I was fighting outbreaks of spider mites, our old winter friend powdery mildew, and failures on my part in judgement. I placed my faith in the wrong people, and I paid dearly for it, and then when I was finally handed the right people, I was so frazzled that I didn't even know how to handle them, and almost alienated them entirely! My two superiors, my assistant grower, my facilities man, and last but certainly never least my wife, were all there to help me, but somehow I still came to the brink of failure, mostly due to my own inability to accept help from others, instead taking things upon myself, increasing my stress, and pushing me to the absolute breaking point.

There have been some nasty, nasty incidents, a fever of 103 that forced my wife to drive in to care for my plants despite the fact that the snow was pouring down that day, she absolutely despises driving in the snow, skidding terrifies her, so had I not literally been boiling in my own juices, I would have managed to get dressed before her and drive rather than forcing her to do, her boots have a zipper and mine have laces so that was honestly a dirty pull. That was my first "day off" in close to 2 months before that, and each "day off" before that consisted of me coming into work for a shorter than normal period rather than my normal 6-12 hours, 7 days a week, without fail, for... it gets hazy after that long, everything sort of blends together, I just remember my old assistant being fired, and then I worked for a very long time... Balance is needed for sustainability to be achieved, this is true in all things, and I think I have finally learned to accept this in regards to expansion of my grow for rec, with the help from the right people.

Why? Simply stress? Too long without real time off? People pay shrinks tons of money for much simpler breakthroughs than that, but it appears as though things are finally coming back together, and I may become reactive here.

Red Eye: All your testers have popped, and are growing, i'll do a thread for them soon.

Connoisseur: ECSD x SC, ECSD x SSSDH, and have grown out and been sorted, photos will not be available for ALL the different phenotypes which popped up, but there will be thorough reports on the keeper mothers, both of whom are delicious.

Karma: If you are still visiting this site, your AG13x Biker seeds were lovely, and you will receive the same kind of data as Connoisseur, if you prefer I post it elsewhere, please pm me and I will do so, or if I don't hear from you, i'll contact you elsewhere.

kruatalos: You da man, you have shown amazing pics of SBJ, and any time you'd like to try some new elites, please arrange another trip to Elitch :)

I have had 2 "full" days off in the past 4 months. Christmas, and Thanksgiving. I have had 5 half days off in that time. A half day could be done at noon, or done at 3. They would both be considered half days in my book.

I feel you. I have recently felt the burnout coming on. It is not a good thing. The wife and I have rented a house in the mountains with a hot tub,and scheduled massages for a little get away. My wife was still trying to bring work with us. For once it was me that was saying I don't want to work at all.

I have never been so anxious to not work. :)

There is a balance, but I have yet to find it.

I have always been a workaholic. Maybe someday things will change, but until then there are hot tubs, and massages. :)
 

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Great to see you back, Smurph!

Gotta be careful not to let the type A side of our personalities push us too hard. It's a burnout, for sure, and sometimes a killer. Sure, sometimes it's good to throw ourselves at our work, but there has to be time for more.

So, don't just be excellent with each other, be excellent with yourself first.
 

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Disappointing dispensary visit :(

Disappointing dispensary visit :(

Just for shits and giggles, friend and I stopped @ rec MJ store in our county on return home from mountain excursion. UGH! There were only TWO freaking strains available. Cherry and Grape...both indicas. Pal nudged/bumped me saying my strains look better.

Decided to try 1 gram of cherry. Pitiful!!! Wet (not cured) and on a scale of 1-10 (my taste, visual, smell, affect/effect scale), it rated about a 4.2...maybe less.

What made matters worse (and I NEED to tell the owner...)....young lady bud tender was using latex gloves...reached in the tub to pick out a bud...then used the SAME gloved hand to take my $20, then money back in change....using the SAME glove....then dipped her latex-ed hand (SAME glove!!!) back into the bud jar! Holy freakin' COW!! That's cross contamination....and you probably already know how filthy any dollar bills (no matter what denomination) are w/ germs.......NASTY! Health concern right there for a person with compromised immune system or having lung problems. Cannot believe what I witnessed!

Came home to try it, splitting it w/ friend. Had 2 tokes....very disappointing as far as taste, effect. I knew friend had mentioned (several times) I have far superior strains than any MMJ dispensary that he's tried in Colo...but now I know first hand!!!!! That was the 1 and only time I'll EVER visit a dispensary ANYWERE!!

Much prefer what I grow/harvest. And they have to label all the nutes, treatments....pretty gnarly....lots of chemicals. I do soiless mix and augment w/ fish emulsion, garden waste teas, blood/bone/feather meal, sometimes guano. Eye opening.

And to think the 2 strains were NOT grown by the dispensary...if they cannot offer choice....or keep up with demand.....it'll go downhill from there. And....I bet most folks buying thought it was "good sh**!" Nope...not at all.
 
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