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First grow in 10 years.
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Somes still a bit wet, but most is good to go into jars now. At 12oz right now, but I expect that to drop to maybe maybe 10. I can't believe it. Had no clue I could pull something like this off.
Very very nice mate. Bet you're made up with yourself.
One thing... very important... Did anybody tell you about brown paper bags?
If I were you I'd get down to the shop now and get some. Where I am we get them free to bag up mushrooms in the veg section of the supermarket... I just take a shitload of them. Reuse them once you jar them up.
The paper bag stage goes between hanging and jarring, and in my opinion is one of the most important parts of a proper dry.
Basically the paper bag allows the excess moisture to evaporate, without the buds going too dry. It allows the bud to even out it's moisture profile and adjust to the balance of the air around it, without losing it directly to the air. It's hard to explain exactly why it works so well, but it does, and it just helps get the bud right where you want it before jarring.
Jar up a bit too early, and at worst you can lose bud to mold, but even with a bit too much moisture present you can lose a lot of flavour to be replaced by a slightly soured taste.
Just take any bud which is still slightly moist and put an ounce in each paper bag. Fold and scrunch the top inch or two to seal, leaving loose space inside, and leave them in there for another few days at least. You'll find the smell really develops and rounds off nicely in the bag, and you'll know what I mean about the drying when you see it yourself.
Even if you don't do it this time, grab some for next
Take care man.
One thing... very important... Did anybody tell you about brown paper bags?
If I were you I'd get down to the shop now and get some. Where I am we get them free to bag up mushrooms in the veg section of the supermarket... I just take a shitload of them. Reuse them once you jar them up.
The paper bag stage goes between hanging and jarring, and in my opinion is one of the most important parts of a proper dry.
Basically the paper bag allows the excess moisture to evaporate, without the buds going too dry. It allows the bud to even out it's moisture profile and adjust to the balance of the air around it, without losing it directly to the air. It's hard to explain exactly why it works so well, but it does, and it just helps get the bud right where you want it before jarring.
Jar up a bit too early, and at worst you can lose bud to mold, but even with a bit too much moisture present you can lose a lot of flavour to be replaced by a slightly soured taste.
Just take any bud which is still slightly moist and put an ounce in each paper bag. Fold and scrunch the top inch or two to seal, leaving loose space inside, and leave them in there for another few days at least. You'll find the smell really develops and rounds off nicely in the bag, and you'll know what I mean about the drying when you see it yourself.
Even if you don't do it this time, grab some for next
Take care man.
Very very nice mate. Bet you're made up with yourself.
One thing... very important... Did anybody tell you about brown paper bags?
If I were you I'd get down to the shop now and get some. Where I am we get them free to bag up mushrooms in the veg section of the supermarket... I just take a shitload of them. Reuse them once you jar them up.
The paper bag stage goes between hanging and jarring, and in my opinion is one of the most important parts of a proper dry.
Basically the paper bag allows the excess moisture to evaporate, without the buds going too dry. It allows the bud to even out it's moisture profile and adjust to the balance of the air around it, without losing it directly to the air. It's hard to explain exactly why it works so well, but it does, and it just helps get the bud right where you want it before jarring.
Jar up a bit too early, and at worst you can lose bud to mold, but even with a bit too much moisture present you can lose a lot of flavour to be replaced by a slightly soured taste.
Just take any bud which is still slightly moist and put an ounce in each paper bag. Fold and scrunch the top inch or two to seal, leaving loose space inside, and leave them in there for another few days at least. You'll find the smell really develops and rounds off nicely in the bag, and you'll know what I mean about the drying when you see it yourself.
Even if you don't do it this time, grab some for next
Take care man.
Thank you man, that makes a lot of sense. I always remember seeing paper bags on cops when they would bust a grow, and I somehow equated it to be cheap, like a bum with a bottle in a paper bag. Never really gave much thought to it. It makes sense that the paper bags would absorb some of the moisture lost by the buds, acting as a little buffer between them and the really dry normal air everywhere, like where they were hanging. It's a nice happy medium, and I really wish I'd looked more into it/thought of it. I;ve noticed the smell isnt as strong as I like. I figured that would come out after being in a jar overnight and sweated a bit, but it hasnt quite yet.
I'm really an extreme novice when it comes to harvesting and curing. Well, once I get the the legitmate curing with just opening the jars every now and then, thats easy. But keeping all my terpenes intact, and not losing a bunch of kief, etc... is still the biggest challenge for me. Some might even say it's the most important step. I would. I'm sure most of you would rather have a QP of perfectly dried and cured bud, then 3/4 of mediocre, half heartedly cured bud.
It's still quite potent, but the flavor is something to be improved on. It's still only been 4 days since I chopped her, but if it were a pro who did the cutting I'm sure the flavor would be pretty upfront right now.
I really shoulve just chopped her and hung her in the tent, removing the questionable bag seed i have in flower in there at the time. Should've chopped her in there, in the dark, and hung her with the exaust fans on 24/7.
-Will next time at least buy a small drying tent.
-Will definitely buy paper bags.
-A lot more jars
-Better exaust/ventilation system while growing (found a little bud rot unfortunately)
-Look into dehumidifier for night time.
-Smoke a lot of this and read a lot more on icmag
Cool. But it's not too late to put them into paper bags now is what I'm saying.
4 days from chop to jar? If I were you, I'd get paper bags today and leave them in it a couple of days, even in the bottom of your tent. If not, be very careful to not just open the jars daily, but get the bud out and make sure none of it's damp. Don't worry about lost trichomes. In the grand scheme of things it means absolutely nothing.
You said earlier you expect your numbers to go from 12oz to 10. If that's true, and you're losing 2oz in weight off 10... that's too much moisture to be going to sealed jars in my opinion.
To give you some perspective, if I did 20 individual bags and the right time in the drying process, I'd be looking to lose about 1-2 grams on the bag once they were ready for the jar. That's well under an oz on 12.
Don't place too much emphasis on what you've heard about proper curing meaning you have to jar up with moisture still present. That's what the bags are for, so the gradual evening out takes place, rather than a quick dry. Difference with the bags is you don't run the risk of losing more bud to rot, especially when you're not experienced in burping your jars or harvesting in general.
I've never found it adds anything to the overall quality of the finished bud anyway if you've dried properly beforehand.
The brown bags give you a buffer zone where you can leave them in there for days without worrying about them being over dry or losing any quality. If you go to the jar too quick, you can lose everything. Be careful of that... Especially if you've had rot. The spores of botrytis are still alive in a moist environment, even when your buds are chopped and in the jar. Once dried out completely, they're no longer a danger. Just double check everything and, just so you know, the safe side is the dry side.
4 days from chop to jar? If I were you, I'd get paper bags today and leave them in it a couple of days, even in the bottom of your tent. If not, be very careful to not just open the jars daily, but get the bud out and make sure none of it's damp. Don't worry about lost trichomes. In the grand scheme of things it means absolutely nothing.
You said earlier you expect your numbers to go from 12oz to 10. If that's true, and you're losing 2oz in weight off 10... that's too much moisture to be going to sealed jars in my opinion.
To give you some perspective, if I did 20 individual bags and the right time in the drying process, I'd be looking to lose about 1-2 grams on the bag once they were ready for the jar. That's well under an oz on 12.
Don't place too much emphasis on what you've heard about proper curing meaning you have to jar up with moisture still present. That's what the bags are for, so the gradual evening out takes place, rather than a quick dry. Difference with the bags is you don't run the risk of losing more bud to rot, especially when you're not experienced in burping your jars or harvesting in general.
I've never found it adds anything to the overall quality of the finished bud anyway if you've dried properly beforehand.
The brown bags give you a buffer zone where you can leave them in there for days without worrying about them being over dry or losing any quality. If you go to the jar too quick, you can lose everything. Be careful of that... Especially if you've had rot. The spores of botrytis are still alive in a moist environment, even when your buds are chopped and in the jar. Once dried out completely, they're no longer a danger. Just double check everything and, just so you know, the safe side is the dry side.
I think I have a bunch of lunch bags, same material just smaller. Think I'll fill them about 1/4-1/3 of the way up and let them sit like that for awhile. I;m guessing on the number, but they are wetter than I'd like for being in jars.
Not sure if I'm going about it right, but this is what I did. I put about a half oz more or less in each bag, filling them up about 1/4 to 1/3. I then folded down the top twice, and pinned them closed. I'll check on them once day, and jar them once they feel about right.
Oh yeah, right now I'm at 315.5g. Have about 3oz of really frosty trim/shake too on top of that.
Oh yeah, right now I'm at 315.5g. Have about 3oz of really frosty trim/shake too on top of that.
Haha.. very neat. I just crunch up the top.. but yeah, pins'll do it
Keep them in there about a week give or take. Just give them a little jiggle round in the bag to loosen them up so the buds are not stuck together. Like I said before, don't worry one bit about losing trichomes by handling/movement at this stage.
There's no need to open the bags like you do with the jars. Just check they're drying out properly and are not so moist they're sticking together.
If they are just give them a gentle puff up to loosen the buds and put them back again, maybe lay the bag on it's side so the buds are spread out for a couple of days.
They're ready when you can open the biggest bud and it not have the green moist feel at the very center.
I like my buds to crumble like dark muscovado sugar. Not dry like dust, but dry enough to crumble to a nice fluff when you roll it between your fingers.
When it does.. you can kick back and put this one in the bank.
Be cool.
Keep them in there about a week give or take. Just give them a little jiggle round in the bag to loosen them up so the buds are not stuck together. Like I said before, don't worry one bit about losing trichomes by handling/movement at this stage.
There's no need to open the bags like you do with the jars. Just check they're drying out properly and are not so moist they're sticking together.
If they are just give them a gentle puff up to loosen the buds and put them back again, maybe lay the bag on it's side so the buds are spread out for a couple of days.
They're ready when you can open the biggest bud and it not have the green moist feel at the very center.
I like my buds to crumble like dark muscovado sugar. Not dry like dust, but dry enough to crumble to a nice fluff when you roll it between your fingers.
When it does.. you can kick back and put this one in the bank.
Be cool.
whoa, this stuff is getting really stoney. Like I just sat down for an hour and dont remember how or why. I'm happy to be smoking real weed again
Cant 'beat' that
hahah, nice one man, thats just my kind of humor!
nice job homes. are they all different varieties? if not coulda saved some trouble by just getting one large paper bag or 3 from a store and lined the bottom with the buds, roll the top down and give a light shake every day to keep them drying evenly on both sides of the bud.
but man your shit is so neat... you're not a serial killer on the side are you lol?
but man your shit is so neat... you're not a serial killer on the side are you lol?
lol, nah, I was just really stoned and bored. All I had at the time were those tiny bags. I will get some bigger bags for the next run definitely.
I always prefer individual bags to one large one. Especially if the bud is still quite moist. I put an oz in each rather than a half. It dries out more evenly in individual bags. In one big one the center of the pile stays moist longer, obviously. If you've had rot it's better to use more small amounts.
a single layer is the key.
