High Performance Hydro 2.0

[PetFlora]

I final harvested yesterday. Did it over a week, as it is a lot of work, plus, pistils perked up after being mostly red and dead (weather warmed up > 10*s), so I let it go as long as I could considering the clones were outgrowing the clone tent. So yesterday was the day.

Since then, I have been busy making numerous adjustments in preparation for HPH 2.0.

I am using 2 of Melanie's clones, hoping better spectrum management will prevent them from becoming the canopy monster their mother was. She took up ~ 90% of the 2 x 4 tent. The 2 clones are bifurcated

So, for anyone who is interested, here is a breakdown with pictures

I use 2 different size Air Pots. The larger one is mostly needed as an anchor so the plant won't fall over, plus, it is necessary when using the 6" Hydro Halo rings.

I put down one layer of lava rock. I then cap with medium/large polished ornamental river rock to make a flat surface for the smaller AP.

I then insert the small 1 liter AP stuffed with the clone root ball. I center this inside the 4 liter AP, and then side fill with lava rock to stabilize.

What I wind up with is a fast draining pot + medium, but the lava rock on the bottom holds some moisture between feedings: the roots love it

Being fast draining, I super-feed every 45-60 minutes for ~ 27 seconds during lights on. This is ~ 6xs more often than standard F & D. Plants are getting ~24 small meals every day during lights on

Runoff quickly goes back to the rez, which is also high performance, combining flooming with nutes splashing into a bowl of river rock. Note the 2 magnets affixed to a large chrome nut. Last grow I had this on the feed pump side. Moving it here means it is doing its' magic 24/7

Next post will be about bulb choices

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[PetFlora]

I am anticipating a new all-white LED panel, but until it arrives I am using my hot5 bulbs.

Last grow I added too much red too soon and the dominant plant (Melanie) overtook the 2 x4 area blocking the 2 smaller plants from getting much useful light. 2 clones of them are in my ufo thread. Be interesting to see whether or how much bigger they will get, so...

I am alternating the 8 Quantum bulbs 4 @ 6500 and 4 @ 2900 and keeping the light ~ 10" above so the spectrums have room to blend. The combination is ~ 4800K, which should be a sweet spot between stretch and bulking up, until bud sites are fully developed

 

[bushdriver]

looks interesting... why and how are u using magnets in your rez?

 

[PetFlora]

BushDriver: Thanks for dropping in.

The use of magnets and flooming is too long a story to post, but well worth researching. There is a thread on IC https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=246150

Basically we explore esoteric energies outside the main stream science/physics and see whether they apply to growing our beloved mj, as well as all plants. The how can be found in my last 2 threads

looks interesting... why and how are u using magnets in your rez?

 

[bushdriver]

corr have i dropped myself in a minefield…… its like how those curly whirly nesquik straws make the milk taste so chocolately right?!
just spent ages looking at restructuring water.. i am interested…. so are these magnets creating a dipole channelling ambient energy into your puts or something? i need some sound bites man too much to read to quickly get my head round this..

 

[PetFlora]

Welcome to the Rabbit Holes

There is so much that has been kept from us by those sadistic mofos who are in control.

Thankfully the 411 is leaking out

Here's another: http://bluestarenterprise.com/

If everything is 'light' and light is 'energy', then it makes sense (to me) that it can be supercharged. Magnets is one way, flooming is another. So I combined the 2

Here they are as of yesterday. Note: they were transplanted from the clone bubbler , where their roots were intertwined and had to be ripped apart. They were then inserted into the APs, so they spent the day pouting.

Pretty strong recovery I'd say

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[bushdriver]

don't take this the wrong way but for 3 weeks that doesn't seem like a lot of growth. neither do i see how flying saucers are related to growing plants. unless your talking about the levity of water up the stem then maybe i kinda get ya..
personally i already super charge my water with rare magnetic minerals found in sea salt and have a 1000lph water fall for each pot recirculating…. this is enough for me to achieve astounding growth rates….. i made the mistake of adding lacto bacillus to my external rez burning my plants. in hindsight i am like derr feed less as they'l digest more…
sorry but i havn't found a good link with magnets doing a side by side with controls so am yet to be convinced these magnets are doing anything at all.
although i'm just being skeptical…. it took me 2 years to make and use my own ormus to use on plants and am finally a firm believer so you could swing me if i see some convincing evidence.

 

[PetFlora]

3 weeks? lol

Dec 25 (pic I opened this thread with) - Jan 1 is um < one week

No one is paying me to do a side-by-side for mj, but there are a number of YT vids: Structured Water

 

[Devilman]

BushDriver: Thanks for dropping in.

The use of magnets and flooming is too long a story to post, but well worth researching. There is a thread on IC https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=246150

Basically we explore esoteric energies outside the main stream science/physics and see whether they apply to growing our beloved mj, as well as all plants. The how can be found in my last 2 threads

Esoteric energies? really? dude. come on... this is a forum for debate yes, but not for bloody voodoo giggery-pokery magic..

It still amazes me that you expect people to even take your word on your LED Tubes, when at the same time you are spouting nonsense with no back up or substantial proof.

Magnets for plants are just like Magnets for your car fuel line, or any other bunch of utter nonsense people spout in the belief they are making things better...

You show 1 true scientific research paper documenting the existence and benefit of this, and people MIGHT start to believe it, Until then its all "hand-wavium" and nonsense.

People get super pissed on this forum about people going around handing out bad information, bad diagnosis of plant illness and bad advice for feeding and I am frankly amazed that you continue this practice of trying to have people believe some Tree-hugging, hand-waving nonsense like magnets, or a "chi water fall" is going to make ANY difference at all.

Please, stop giving out nonsense information and conjecture that has been formed in your own head and get back to giving out geniune, repeatable, scientifically accurate information people can USE.

(P.S. This is not a personal attack on you directly, only the completely unfounded and uproven nonsense being peddled.. its worse than the nonsense written on a bottle of "SuperThrive" seriously.)

 

[hippiejesus]

your a @$$

your a @$$

I love new concepts like magnets, I thought the point of open forums was to help us build better systems and grow better green. I got some pretty crazy concepts of my own. you also lost the point of his post. the magnets was just 1 part of his setup. his focas was on his fast draining media.
I myself am intrigued by the concept of restructuring water. Don't think it hurts to explore the unexplored, exspecialy something totoally natural and organic like magnet manipulation
But please feel free to remain a closed minded @$$

 

[bushdriver]

sorry for underestimating your growth rates mate i must of forgot to carry the one.. just to back you up there are a bunch of experiments with magnetising seeds and water etc i have managed to find once i looked for them.
i always decide not to do side by sides as i can't let a plant miss out on what i would i think is a good thing and get an uneven canopy because of it. But i suppose its possible to do large tests between the corn this summer. guess i got some more yt vids to watch then.

 

[PetFlora]

No worries, mate. Chalk it up to 'Refer Madness'

They took a good 6 days to fully adapt to their new growing media, plus, recover from the shock of having their entangled roots ripped apart, but still they grew at a fast clip.

I've been out most of the day, and it's nute change day. When I went to do that, I was struck at how much they have filled out and in, in just 24 hours

Nice to see you pursuing magnet power: this will blow your mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiGH4zRsO0U

 

[PetFlora]

Wow. Tell us how you really feel, Flat Earther.

The proof is out there, but you won't find it supported by those in control of big oil backed energy. In fact, they hire disinfo agents to undermine the truth. Seems they hooked you good, but you can free yourself any time you want. Until that day... [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]this will blow your mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiGH4zRsO0U[/FONT]

Esoteric energies? really? dude. come on... this is a forum for debate yes, but not for bloody voodoo giggery-pokery magic..

It still amazes me that you expect people to even take your word on your LED Tubes, when at the same time you are spouting nonsense with no back up or substantial proof.

Magnets for plants are just like Magnets for your car fuel line, or any other bunch of utter nonsense people spout in the belief they are making things better...

You show 1 true scientific research paper documenting the existence and benefit of this, and people MIGHT start to believe it, Until then its all "hand-wavium" and nonsense.

People get super pissed on this forum about people going around handing out bad information, bad diagnosis of plant illness and bad advice for feeding and I am frankly amazed that you continue this practice of trying to have people believe some Tree-hugging, hand-waving nonsense like magnets, or a "chi water fall" is going to make ANY difference at all.

Please, stop giving out nonsense information and conjecture that has been formed in your own head and get back to giving out geniune, repeatable, scientifically accurate information people can USE.

(P.S. This is not a personal attack on you directly, only the completely unfounded and uproven nonsense being peddled.. its worse than the nonsense written on a bottle of "SuperThrive" seriously.)

 

[PetFlora]

This looks really cool

Especially the energetic symbols

http://augureye.blogspot.dk/2014/01/intrinity-merkaba-portal.html

 

[bushdriver]

No worries, mate. Chalk it up to 'Refer Madness'

They took a good 6 days to fully adapt to their new growing media, plus, recover from the shock of having their entangled roots ripped apart, but still they grew at a fast clip.

I've been out most of the day, and it's nute change day. When I went to do that, I was struck at how much they have filled out and in, in just 24 hours

Nice to see you pursuing magnet power: this will blow your mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiGH4zRsO0U

well theres low powered leds for ya… ! in fact that is incredible!
about 4 yrs ago i got massively into researching about magnet motors. i totally believe there are loads of designs out there that work and are all suppressed. was planning on building one but got distracted and it never happened. what initially drove me was thinking how great it would be for running grow lights, if only this video was out then. have you done this? or made any free energy devices to verify vouching for this video?. i tend not to talk to people about these things as they instantly mark you up as a wacko and start reciting the laws of thermodynamics at ya?
i also heard about magnetizing seeds a long time ago and also never got round to trying it… any way I'm off to read the comments on that video

 

[bushdriver]

my favourite torroidal vortex of them all is the smoke ring!

i don't know if i'm ready to go down this road again…..

 

[bushdriver]

hey dude i just realised we both joined icmag in the same month over 4 years ago…
...but you've made 25x more posts than me...

 

[bushdriver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlhKOJc2yZk

relevent and makes me laugh

 

[PetFlora]

Reading my thread title, it occurs to me that I did not transition the led tent clones from a bubbler to my High Performance Rez that is doing really well for my hot5 girls

Although I grew to harvest in 3g pails, each with one large cylinder air stone, clearly 4 air stones = 4xs the DO, so I think I'll let her go. The only problem is the amount of nutes this tote limits me to. If I fail to top off each morning, the rest will likely be consumed by day's end. Also have to change nutes ~ 5 days once bud sites set in.

So, if it's all the same to you guys, I'm gonna fly with this.

Next time I will use 6" net pots + a 14g tote filling ~ 10g. Not sure 4 stones will drive this as well, so I may wind up buying another 35 lpm air pump. I do have one of those 8 manifold monsters, but it is noisy as hell + gets quite hot, so it is consuming mass quantities of electricity

 

[PetFlora]

Temps here have been < 70* F for a couple weeks, meaning growth slows considerably.

Pics taken this morning

First 3 are from hot5 with High Performance Rez now improved by adding 2 air stones (one under each pump)

LED (pic 4 and 5) dwc bubbler has a large crystal + 4 large oxy stones

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