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Will 2014 be the END of the KUSH CRAZE
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Im puffing some pre 98 and it is some strong herb, 1/4 of a joint and Im pretty well roasted. I don't find many strains I like as much as the bubs.
Well, as long as Kush is associated with delicious pungent flavours and smell and offers hard hitting potency, it's going to take something profound to shift the psyche of the people.
Obviously, Kush and it's counterparts are very broadly spread out over the marketplace now and so I guess it will require something just as impacting on the gene pools to drive its popularity down.
Keeping in mind that many well seasoned smokers struggle to feel much from sativa based strains and have to resort to indica based strains to find any real satisfaction.
And besides, 'Kush' has that euphonic ring that makes it sound cool.......
Whatever comes along to take it's place, has all this to contend with. Unless something extraordinary shows up, my guess is that Kush will be here to stay for a long time and even after going out of vogue, would likely make a significant comeback. It's seems to be determined to become as legendary as Skunk and so it'll probably never really just pack up and go away. Good or bad, that's how it is, but I guess it's hats off to Kush for winning such a consensus of appreciation amongst the international smoking community.
Personally, I prefer landrace sativas and their hybrids, but then I've also had some memorable experiences with Kushes. Each to his own and horses for courses!
billy
Obviously, Kush and it's counterparts are very broadly spread out over the marketplace now and so I guess it will require something just as impacting on the gene pools to drive its popularity down.
Keeping in mind that many well seasoned smokers struggle to feel much from sativa based strains and have to resort to indica based strains to find any real satisfaction.
And besides, 'Kush' has that euphonic ring that makes it sound cool.......
Whatever comes along to take it's place, has all this to contend with. Unless something extraordinary shows up, my guess is that Kush will be here to stay for a long time and even after going out of vogue, would likely make a significant comeback. It's seems to be determined to become as legendary as Skunk and so it'll probably never really just pack up and go away. Good or bad, that's how it is, but I guess it's hats off to Kush for winning such a consensus of appreciation amongst the international smoking community.
Personally, I prefer landrace sativas and their hybrids, but then I've also had some memorable experiences with Kushes. Each to his own and horses for courses!
billy
I disagree most seasoned smokers are looking for that sativa high...chasing that dragon so to speak of old school highs that "used to be"
and I agree landrace sativas and crosses of it are so much nicer...nicer bouquet and nicer high, and more psychedelic...
BUT are longer flower and YIELD a lot less...and take a lot more love and care to grow then so called " KUSH"...
sativa's take patience and time....
something stoner's have little of...
but you know the saying good things happen to those who wait
peace
Chefboy
I can def agree chasing the dragon with sativas so many now are total let downs... Very rare to find someone willing to run a plant 20+ weeks or the skillz to handle her growing sativa to it's potential is a art... And not worth doing for any reason except personal.... I try to get one in a yr if possible... And last one was in for 3 runs bout 23 wks ... Now if I was to sell that I would be gettin offers much less the if I had og done in 8wks ,,, it's just not practical so only get shared with friends... They were so plentyfull back in the day only cuz 90% if not more was imported ... All ur ol Skool columbian panama Acapulco thais were grown out there not here .... Now I love sativas but have a few kushes I know will never ever leave my garden... But also have other keepers complete opposites .... Imo there is other great strains around and always will be... There's so much variety in cannabis if ya look hard enough u should be able to find what ya want.... But as for kush craze ending not anytime soon...
Smokin on some bloody Mary now fantastic herb no kush
Smokin on some bloody Mary now fantastic herb no kush
Kush is here it say, the broadleaf short flowering plant
will always be the first choice for commercial growers.
Marketing may come up with new tags for old gear, and
until narrowleaf long flowering plants can be grown as
efficiently as the preferred gear, then no, it won't happen.
But I grow narrowleaf long flowering plants for me and mine,
small scale, non commercial, natch.
will always be the first choice for commercial growers.
Marketing may come up with new tags for old gear, and
until narrowleaf long flowering plants can be grown as
efficiently as the preferred gear, then no, it won't happen.
But I grow narrowleaf long flowering plants for me and mine,
small scale, non commercial, natch.
Then what you're effectively saying is that the Kush craze has resulted from the Kush smokers' ignorance due to their inexperience with good sativas?...I'm not so sure I could agree with that.
billy
Dropped cat, the kind of kush you are talking about is not the kush people want. It's the fake kushes that people want not crappy old hindu.
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northernkush
Member
You don't like the Hindu?
thats exactly what i am saying...
I would speculate very few smokers on this board have experienced the delights of a true sativa..I know of many growers in the Ace forum, and Cannabiogen forum and the Sativa lovers thread...
But most don't know shit...yes that is what i am saying
If i had the choice between a wickedly potent psychedelic heart racing sativa...or a mind numbing, body numbing, and zombie like high(Kush)...I'd go with the sativa...everytime
but that's just me
I like psychedelics LOL
peace
Chefboy
You're a trip...and you do like to make threads that kind of sort of bash on the modern lines...sometimes aggressively...sometimes passive aggressively
If I had a time machine...I'd most definitely blip you back to the 1970's or 80's where you seem to want to be. But you know dude?...I came up smoking through the late 70's into the 80's...into 90's into 00's...to present...and none of that shit is better than what is now.
I hope you make your own stuff...and stop wasting your time worrying about crazes...or how something isn't kush...
the lack of patience stoner part is just typical passive aggressive...but I guess if you grow long flowers..you are proving something? That makes you a real grower? please
my OGs, master, pure kush, and lvpk will never leave the stable. i love my hazes but theres somethong to besaid about all these "kushes". they arent dominating the market and commanding the highest prices for no reason. the hype is real. at least for the OGs i hold, theres nothing that comes close to it...
They command the market and prices BECAUSE of the hype. I work with 30+ patients who I continually blind/no name test strains. High quality gsc, cp, og fire finish well below the top of the pack when names are withheld, hands down. This has been repeated by nearly every grower in our Co op which puts our testing pool into the hundreds. Not saying they aren't quality, just saying they're middle of the pack when compared to A+ genetics in general.
thats a pretty bold statement. I mean cmon how do we know the quality of medicine u have. most folks think they have the dank but they just have never seen it, not saying thats you, but thats what your post made me think of
sure a group of folks might not like fire og, gsc, or what ev, especially if its not grown well...
my point is its all about the grower as much as the genetic..so to say something is hype, well show us your heady organic nug shots and theeennnnn say its hype.
northernkush
Member
People call all kinds of bullshit, Kush. The state of the scene in places (especially parts of the midwest) is really bizarre. I'll go back to my home town and see 3 different people with the same exact same bullshit beaster-esque weed and one will call it Bubba Kush, another'll call it Sour Diesel and the other will say it's Pineapple Affy. I'm just like... what? 
Not a bold statement at all. People pass up high quality, unknown, strains as a matter of coarse. There is a strong psychological influence from name recognition and the only way to find a fair comparison is blind testing (personal preference is moot in a large testing pool when talking about overall appeal). All strains that I test are grown in the same rooms/environs so it's an even playing field. I'm not saying that the high end og's aren't quality just that they're not from another planet and in some amazing new plane of evolution they're just cannabis. I am saying that anyone who hasn't tried anything better (obviously subjective) has probably been focusing more energy on finding og only than actually looking at the broad genetic pool as a whole.
And then there's just the plain fact that there's different medicines for different folks needs. Some are suited to sativas while others require indicas...let me give some examples....
I have friends who lost both their sons in successive freak accidents within a couple of years of each other, so all they could handle was indicas because they were totally stressed out and needed to chill. Prior to that, all they had ever sought was sativas for the functional up buzz but now they needed to calm themselves right down to enable them to deal with two ugly tragedies that were haunting them silly.
Another friend of mine developed insomnia due to the high levels of stress he was experiencing due to a gang that was after him and he'd be lucky to get 2-3 hours sleep a night. He was totally exhausted for work each day and quickly became a night time indica user to secure his needed sleep.
Other friends of mine who have to constantly work long hours, prefer sativas, as it's the only weed that's functional for them to combine with what they're doing. Musician friends of mine almost exclusively smoke sativas for inspiration that gels with composing and playing.
And I've come across countless folk who are seasoned indica smokers who struggle to feel sativas in a satisfying way coz they're so used to that numbing bomb effect that only indicas provide adequately, hence they just won't settle for anything else.
There are many recreational smokers who choof sativas in the day and indicas by night. Other recreational smokers blaze either at any time of day and some are just sticklers for one or the other.
I'm personally a sativa lover for the most part as I love racy 'up' highs and psychedelics that stimulate creative thought and upper level perception, but as it's said, "horses for courses" and "each to his own."
billy
I have friends who lost both their sons in successive freak accidents within a couple of years of each other, so all they could handle was indicas because they were totally stressed out and needed to chill. Prior to that, all they had ever sought was sativas for the functional up buzz but now they needed to calm themselves right down to enable them to deal with two ugly tragedies that were haunting them silly.
Another friend of mine developed insomnia due to the high levels of stress he was experiencing due to a gang that was after him and he'd be lucky to get 2-3 hours sleep a night. He was totally exhausted for work each day and quickly became a night time indica user to secure his needed sleep.
Other friends of mine who have to constantly work long hours, prefer sativas, as it's the only weed that's functional for them to combine with what they're doing. Musician friends of mine almost exclusively smoke sativas for inspiration that gels with composing and playing.
And I've come across countless folk who are seasoned indica smokers who struggle to feel sativas in a satisfying way coz they're so used to that numbing bomb effect that only indicas provide adequately, hence they just won't settle for anything else.
There are many recreational smokers who choof sativas in the day and indicas by night. Other recreational smokers blaze either at any time of day and some are just sticklers for one or the other.
I'm personally a sativa lover for the most part as I love racy 'up' highs and psychedelics that stimulate creative thought and upper level perception, but as it's said, "horses for courses" and "each to his own."
billy
