Suggestions for C99 hybrid?

[KalidoscopeMind]

Hello ICMag! Long time lurker, first time poster. Pleasure to make your acquaintance.

After a little bit of trial and error over the last year or so I am now in a position to develop my own crossbreeds and, ideally, eliminate or reduce the need to buy new seeds. I have absolutely fallen in love with Female seeds C99 and want to make it the backbone of a feminized breeding project.

My plan is to choose my favorite girl from a batch of C99 going at present, and revegetate her while growing my other soon-to-be parents from seed.

Here are the traits I am looking for in a plant:

*50-70 days flowering time (from 12-12 flip)
*Low or Unconventional Odor (ex. lavender, fruity, minty, vanilla, chocolate, basically anything that isn't the classic telltale stank)
Yields well indoors
*Can handle nutrients (isn't finicky)
*Uplifting, Illuminating high, calm but not sedative. NO brain fog.
*Physically and mentally stimulating without becoming manic.
*Little to no couchlock.
*Long lasting duration
*At least somewhat resistant to spider mites (C99 is weak in that respect, I've found.)
*Tolerable of temperatures.

Does anyone have any suggestions, based on this list, for strains to cross C99 with?

 

[Adze]

You might find this C99xMalawi cross interesting.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5592276&postcount=72

 

[the gnome]

MOSCA has some nice C-99 hybrids
tsi fly is one i grew out last may and i was very satisfied with it.
Its currently a keeper in my garden
he also has others like blue fin, mach fly and others.
what Ive grown from /mosca has all been quality gear

 

[RonSmooth]

What about the C99 don't you like? Or what are you trying to change with a hybrid?

Seems that the strain meets at lot of your criteria as is.

Might want to grow out some regular C99 seeds and select a mother from those rather than use one grown from feminized seed. Don't see many breeding projects deliberately starting with feminized seeds. I could be wrong but you may want to check it out.

 

[KalidoscopeMind]

What about the C99 don't you like? Or what are you trying to change with a hybrid?

Seems that the strain meets at lot of your criteria as is.

Might want to grow out some regular C99 seeds and select a mother from those rather than use one grown from feminized seed. Don't see many breeding projects deliberately starting with feminized seeds. I could be wrong but you may want to check it out.

Thank you all for the feedback so far! I'll give that Malawi cross a closer look! Seems promising!

RonSmooth: While I adore C99 by itself (and DO plan to make some seeds), I am looking to make hybrids to:
A) Add some clarity to the high and improve its duration (I find the C99 high doesn't last as long as I like, 2 hour or so and I need a refresher. Plus too much of it gives that sort of foggy, dreamy feel to the head that makes one feel like they're in a cloud floating above the world instead of being a part of it),
B) Improve the yields a little bit (some phenotypes of C99 yield VERY well, others not so much.)
C) Improve its tolerance for nutrients (C99 is the most fickle feeder I've ever grown by far.)
D) Most importantly, improve its resistance to pests, particularly Spider Mites.

 

[RonSmooth]

Thank you all for the feedback so far! I'll give that Malawi cross a closer look! Seems promising!

RonSmooth: While I adore C99 by itself (and DO plan to make some seeds), I am looking to make hybrids to:
A) Add some clarity to the high and improve its duration (I find the C99 high doesn't last as long as I like, 2 hour or so and I need a refresher. Plus too much of it gives that sort of foggy, dreamy feel to the head that makes one feel like they're in a cloud floating above the world instead of being a part of it),
B) Improve the yields a little bit (some phenotypes of C99 yield VERY well, others not so much.)
C) Improve its tolerance for nutrients (C99 is the most fickle feeder I've ever grown by far.)
D) Most importantly, improve its resistance to pests, particularly Spider Mites.

Thats odd. I have found C99 to be very tolerant of nutrients. I have never had a problem with them. Veg or flower. I could feed them a wide range of EC and never even remember a yellow leaf.

I could see the point about yields. Mine were all average. Though training helped maximize the amount of quality in the end.

My biggest issue with C99 is the smell that while nice, is very faint.

Not sure about the spider mites. Thankfully have never had to deal with them.

If you are going to make seeds, you might consider growing out regular C99 seeds and selecting parents from those. Using selfed seeds as breeding stock may lead to problems in the future.

You might also come across a phenotype that is closer to your ideal.

There are some C99 crosses out there now that may fit your bill as well.

 

[redneck shogun]

Been growing c99 hybrids I've made for like 4 years straight. Never liked the bud density on my girl but the problem with solving that problem tends to add sleepyness. Best sativa I crossed was vitality because you can find plenty solid buds and the high is beautiful. Best indica was peyote purple which had some plants combine the effects and give a complete experience that was missing from pp's pure body effects.

 

[early_bird]

I´ve grown FMS C99 2 times, fantastic strain. Just a bit to racy for me.
Found also they handle nutrients quite well.

I would decide, what is the most important thing you wanna add and start searching there.
Smell, flowering time, tolerance to temperatures is all nice, but was is THE point you wanna improve.

Maybe to cross ist with Satori would be awesome. Strong and long lasting sativa, good resistance to spider mites, very tolerant to hot temperatures, check it out

 

[acridlab]

A lot of peoples claim DNA/reserva cantaloupe haze is truly c99. Dramatics aside, it and cantaloupe kush are awesome. Quick flowering, heavy yielding, very potent.. I like the cantaloupe kush a lil better cuz it's so stout. Handle lots of nutes too, no mold issues that I hear c99 growers battling with, either

 

[Max Headroom]

i'm talking out of my ass here seeing as i haven't grown or smoked c99 yet, but i wonder what would happen with a cross between c99 and Bushmans, a small and fast growing 100% sativa (50-60 days) from africa.

these two strains are on my shortlist for the immediate future.

 

[mintz]

look at killer queen

 

[redlaser]

Picked up twenty C99 seeds about 4-5 years ago from JW, also called Hemp D. Not sure on the background of this breeder's c99, just really liked the clear, upbeat and functional sativa. Still doing selection with these while making F-2's and some crosses to JTR, cheesequake, agent orange, space bomb and jack's cleaner. The F-2' c99's are really nice, but I am really only interested in the c99 x agent orange cross. Just for the orange flavor possibility. Interested in seeing what the crosses produce but I don't want to change much about c99, except possibly a more interesting flavor/smell. Could be wrong but c99 should be pretty stealth as is, and I have not seen any fert issues with it or pest issues either. So long way of saying I don't have any great ideas of c99 crosses because I like her as is, especially since I believe any cross will change desirable effects of c99. Still going to make crosses with it though because it's worthwhile

 

[Pepe le skunk]

ssh X c99 looks promising. Hope they turn out.

 

[Shiva Blaster]

I grew out Female Seeds Grapefruit (C99 x unknown fruity sativa) and it was fantastic, just as good as their C99. Very tangy citrusy grapefruit taste, and very happy and funstional sativa high.....fantastic stuff.

 

[Skunkenstein]

I've grown the JW Cindy since it was first released and currently making seed with my last remaining jw seed stock.Might have to use a KOS male..looking like all my Jw might be Female..grr.My cut is Dole Pineapple all day long,rock hard Diamond dusted Nuggets.Handles heat,nutrients,ect.w/o issue! Cindy's only weakness IMO are the Tiny branches/structure..mainly an issue when Trimming.You think you're cutting a leaf stem,when its really a branch..haha.Finding a plant to cross w/Cindy would be one that could add structure w/o compromising the high..I've always felt F-13 would be the answer?? I once grew a Cindy/Blueberry that was off the Hook amazing..due to the Finicky nature of blueberry, the cut eventually didn't root, and was lost. Malawi/Cindy, Cindy/Ssh,ext are other crosses that would seem to make sense to me..�� Just my two Cents!

 

[eatUR<3out]

Weird, Cindy has always been racy high for me, far from foggy. Other than the pest resistance, seems to me that your best bet would be to just self the plant. Why addto the gene pool when you can swim around in it and find a plant that suits your needs?

 

[sourpuss]

Yeah second the f13, cant argue with someone like dj when he states in his description its a great potential breeding strain. Have to assume his selection is all about high, which seems to b where a lot of breeders r lacking. I feel like he goes way deeper into the high part of selection then most. Love his blueberry family. Although im sure many r switching back to doing th8ngs right. Think this site is a good push in that direction.

Quality of High above anything is proper selection imo

 

[Gardening Angel]

Hey,

You should check out karma genetics c-99biker

He and mosca seeds have done a collab looks a great strain

Thanks
GA

 

[ronbo51]

I love c99. Mosca's bx1. I wish I could have kept every plant to play with. I got the blockhead, the sativa-ish pheno, and they all delivered strong fruity goodness. 56 days, absolutely covered in sugary trichomes. Easy to grow. And the high is wonderful. Day or night. Work or play. Makes you want to do something, but if you don't it's OK.

 

[indooutdo]

Have had C99, c99xthe white aka glass slipper, and dreamers glass which is blue dream x glass slipper. I'm saying that all three were fire with glass slipper being more my speed. But I'd say get a clone or seeds for glass slipper and save yourself some time or any other c99 mix strain that sounds good.