MMPR Commercial License

[growshopfrank]

Guys,

It's over.

I'm sorry for your loss

 

[VagPuncher]

I was saying that I wouldn't hope for injunctions or 2 programs running side by side etc.

April 1st, it's over.

Thanks for the kind words, guys.

Hope you guys do well.

I'll be enjoying retirement.

 

[Mate Dave]

what is over??

what is over??

I was saying that I wouldn't hope for injunctions or 2 programs running side by side etc.

April 1st, it's over.

Thanks for the kind words, guys.

Hope you guys do well.

I'll be enjoying retirement.

You ain't grown much Vag where you retiring to?

What are you on about its over April 1st, do you mean your licence runs out then?

Do you mean your financier want out then?

What is precisely over April 1st??


Injunctions, or 2 programs, side by side what?

Basically you talk a lot of shit with out explaining anything Vag!

 

[5th]

Basically you talk a lot of shit with out explaining anything Vag!

...and thats why we keep him around.

 

[med-man]

lol hahahahaha ^^^^^^

dont know if 500 a unit = retirement. maybe retirement from growing lol

med-man

 

[Buddha1]

IMO...You are on the right track.

The out come of these changes was engineered years ago. The government has been working on this new program MMPR(IMO...)since they stopped allowing patients to purchase Medicine on a bill you later plan or option. Once Health Canada installed the pay before you get delivery on the HC Medical MJ supply, the MMPR was already in the planning stages(appox. 4 years ago). The charge to payment system was simply to insure that there would be NO out standing depts., once the MMPR was announced. HC knew that anyone owing money for Medicine, would refuse payment. HC also knew they would have a zero chance of recouping any payment from patients on disability, even if it went to collections.

IMO...The MMPR was set up to allow recreational users with a recommendation from a Doc to purchase Medical MJ, that's why they are predicting 450,000 users of the MMPR. The Doc's will charge $100-200 dollars for the yearly recommendation(Taxable) and Canadians will have safe legal access to Marijuana(also Taxable). It's a win-win for everyone, Doctors, recreational users, and of course the government, with tax dollars galore coming in from everyone involved. I believe...The government knew the patients would fight the MMPR because of all the court cases in the past and with this legal action, HC would be forced by the courts, to allow ATP's and PPL's to continue in Canada, in fact HC was banking on it happening. By HC being forced by the courts, the government dose not loose face in the eyes of the world.

I whole heartedly believe...The government thought this scenario completely through to its possible end. If the patients did not object or they loose in court, the MMPR would go into full effect. This also removes the government as supplier and generates tax revenues. Either scenario, would be an acceptable option for the government.

In My Opinion...

--The final out come will be, both the MMAR and the MMPR running concurrent with each other.

--If a patients wishes to grow, they will belong to the MMAR and grow there own medicine.

--If they do not want to grow, they will belong to the MMPR and purchase there Medicine.

--DG's will no longer be an option. If a patient can't grow for themselves, they will be allowed to have volunteers(Free help/workers) or hire help(Paid help/workers), in there growing area and room. All patients capable or non-capable, will have to be involved at a hands on level and in control of all aspects of the growing, and be completely responsible.

--Home operations will be allowed, but, limited by amount of lamps or amount of plants or both(apt., houses, or residential area's).

--Large operations will have to be done in a commercial zone or non residential area for safety reasons(acreage, agricultural, or commercial area's).

The MMAR can not be removed because of constitutional issues(the gov. knows this), the MMPR must come into force, to remover the government as role of supplier. Both the MMAR and the MMPR have faults, both have good qualities. Together, they will allow for medical patients to be constitutionally correct, allow recreational users safe access, and remove the government as a supplier. Together they furbish the needs for all involved(especially...tax revenues), and hopefully a final solution to this huge problem.

I hope I am correct.
Peace...B

I hope you are correct as well Buddha1, however if they allow people to grow for themselves they would also have to allow DG's purely because plenty of patients cant grow for themselves because of various reasons: location, health (to do the work), finances, etc.

This is just my personal prediction...Since it involves the government, its probably just a pipe dream...it makes far to much sense.

All we can do is hope at this point...Fingers Crossed.

But, because I am part of the percentage that will be eliminated(HC quoted that..."30% of MMAR members will be eliminated by the cost of MMPR. This 30% will have to use pharmaceuticals that are covered by provincial medical plans"), I will have no choice, I will continue to grow regardless of the out come April 1. All that will change is the size and number of plants. I cannot, and will not, give up the quality of life I have gained from using Medical MJ for the last 10 years...PERIOD!

Peace...B

PS. HC estimate of 30% being eliminated by MMPR medicine cost, will realistically be 60%...And, it's a really bad solution for the eliminated.

 

[TheBlackman]

yo
I be not one to be extrapolating about these gigs that don't concern me cause I am too old to play the mans game for me to be doing what I want with my body,
but ya'll got to feel me when I be sayin' after all my years creeping around this rock and seeing what the man does to a brother in countries all over just for smokin' some kind.
it ain't right, no way, no how!

Now that it be like medicine and all that goodness that comes from this here plant I do not see the man givin' up his ability to be makin' money off a brother.
Seems to this here cat that the man be wheelin' and dealin' what be best for him and his brothers and not for the average Joe who be needed the kind for what ails him of for some casual use and what not,
ya'll feel me, I don't be seeing this going the way of the workin' Joe, don't ya know
peace

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

we ya'll feel y'all, its pretty obvious

 

[TheBlackman]

yo
Hashmasta
this be in your stompin' grounds I be thinkin'

http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/city-expects-to-issue-permit-for-medicinal-pot-facility-1.764967

the harbour city, the city with no pity be hittin' it up big time,
yo the stench from Harmac will cover the dankness just fine

they be shuttin' down their shows in Cedar just in time,
for the cop knock to tell a brother, time to move yo show
or ya'll be left behind

behind bars with no jars, wallet be showin' scars from the lawyer man,
all your hard work be for naught, just to get yo ass outa the mans can

April Fools a comin' brothers, the Blackman wanna know,
do you have a plan?

peace

 

[donaldflower]

couple things may happen

- grandfathering of all holders
- 5 legalplants for anyone with a doctors note or diagnosis
- complete reform of the new amendments

I definitely think the 5 plant (or so) is the winnable option. It's also what is being implemented in Washington and Colorado, for what it's worth. Letting people have 100s of plants for their 'medicine' is too easy to abuse.

 

[donaldflower]

What part of 80-90% of MMAR users got their license just to grow for profit, don't you understand?

The part where you offer even the slightest shred of evidence to support this claim (actually, guess)

 

[Green Supreme]

5 strains, just kill me. Peace GS

 

[Canada]

5 strains, just kill me. Peace GS

Could always have a grafted mother that host many strains .

 

[Green Supreme]

Or just grow illegally. Peace GS

 

[Buds Bundy]

The part where you offer even the slightest shred of evidence to support this claim (actually, guess)

Well lets see, I see 100's of growers per month for the last 10 years and all but a few got their licenses to make money with. I know of several that have 0 wrong with them and still got a license by paying off a doctor.

LOL do you actually think those 100's of 50-100 lighters out there are growing 100's of LB each every 3 months so they can smoke 20 grams per day and have 100's of lb in storage? Oh and I bet they all take the left over weed to the police station to be incinerated LOL.

Do you actually think the 100's of DG running 50-100 lighters are doing it out of charity work for their patients spending $1000's per crop out of the goodness of their hearts?

Pssst don't tell anyone but I got a deal on a nice bridge for you....

 

[chefboy6969]

Well lets see, I see 100's of growers per month for the last 10 years and all but a few got their licenses to make money with. I know of several that have 0 wrong with them and still got a license by paying off a doctor.

LOL do you actually think those 100's of 50-100 lighters out there are growing 100's of LB each every 3 months so they can smoke 20 grams per day and have 100's of lb in storage? Oh and I bet they all take the left over weed to the police station to be incinerated LOL.

Do you actually think the 100's of DG running 50-100 lighters are doing it out of charity work for their patients spending $1000's per crop out of the goodness of their hearts?

Pssst don't tell anyone but I got a deal on a nice bridge for you....

You just described exactly WHY the gov't decided to change the regs..

peace
Chefboy

 

[Green Supreme]

So say DG's, for interest sake, should have been doing this for free. Paying all the overhead and costs and time, then giving the meds away. Why should that be? Seems most are ok with the distributors for the new program not doing it for free. Peace GS

 

[med-man]

You just described exactly WHY the gov't decided to change the regs..

peace
Chefboy

actually it was for taxation and regulation and job creation. dont believe everything you here on t.v. and read in the paper

think for yourself, question authority

med-man

 

[Buds Bundy]

So say DG's, for interest sake, should have been doing this for free. Paying all the overhead and costs and time, then giving the meds away. Why should that be? Seems most are ok with the distributors for the new program not doing it for free. Peace GS

Well show me where in the HC paper work is says you or the DG can sell the excess weed? I believe there's is a newer clause where the DG can be compensated for their time but no where does it say they can sell the excess product.

Look I don't care if they sell their weed, makes no difference to me. I make money off it either way. Its a fucking plant and not a made made chemical and I personally find it quite hypocritical that once the gov is seeing tax dollars from it all of a sudden its all right for them to make $$$ of a naturally occurring plant.

For [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]donaldflower why do you think lb's are $900-1100 in BC? I let you on a little secret its not because there are so many sick people needing to produce their own cheap med's for personal use, its because there so much excess as most of the licenses are used to grow weed for the illegal market. The licenses killed the penalty associated with illegal growing which makes the products value drop drastically as there's very little risk to growing it.


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[growshopfrank]

its just capitalism at work
our fine government decided that rather than many people making relative modest profit a chosen few should get it all
they just raised the financial bar to keep the riffraff out