Watch out! Synthetic marijuana!

[HempKat]

you sound like you're confused or maybe those guys are confused. i've been interested in research chemicals for over 10 years now since back in the day when you could buy pure mdma online. there are research chemicals that are synthetic/analogues to every fucking drug you can think of. from coke to extasy and meth.

the "weed" would not have those drugs in them. it would be a jwh-NNN some number increment with a slight tweak to bypass the laws that made the previous number suffix illegal. not meth. not extasy, but a cannabinoid analogue.

i suggest you take a visit to erowid or google swim and research chemicals as a string.

I'm not confused at all, I'm telling you what was revealed in two separate reports. Sounds to me like you just don't want to accept this stuff is garbage and so you try to convince yourself everyone is wrong and they would understand if they would just see things your way.

 

[HempKat]

my brain is just fine. you guys need to increase your knowledge so you can stop being scared into hysteria by every sensational headline...jeez.

Hey I personally know people that smoked cigarettes all their lives and died in their 90's of things that had nothing to do with smoking. Does that mean the dangers of tobacco are all hype and hysteria or does it mean that for some reason not all people are affected the same way by things?

If you choose the latter then is it not possible that in spite of your brain being fine or that you know people who use this stuff and seem fine, that it is in fact a dangerous, potentially harmful substance and you and the people you know are just lucky that it didn't damage you or them?

 

[HempKat]

me too, but i'm not gonna go around saying the sky is falling because people choose/have to use synthetics.

K.I.P Knowledge Is Power

Yep when you have no real supporting argument just turn to melodramatics. Nobody is saying the sky is falling because people use synthetic pot. They're saying it's an unregulated market where you never know for sure what you are getting and nobody is making sure it's safe and as a result people have been harmed by it. The packages say "Not for Human Consumption" maybe people should take that more seriously?

 

[HempKat]

you know you can just buy the research chemicals themselves then add it to whatever you want right? you can soak tobacco in it and roll up some "cigarettes" and get high all day everywhere you are with none being the wiser...

like i said K.I.P.


also most of those packages either list what's in em on the package or on a website. if you cares to...ahem...research it

i don't know all this stuff by magic, i practice this long lost ancient technique called reading. really strengthens the brain.

but most of the "herbs" in those blends are as i said regular shit that people smoke for other reasons with no ill effects like damiana, cloves, salvia (not divonorum), and other shit like that. you're only fueling the "reefer madness" with your speculation and guesswork.

I see so I guess since it's on a web site then it must be true huh? I mean I heard on the internet that they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.

I just have to wonder though if this stuff you're reading on web sites is so factual and will ease peoples concerns then why aren't you posting those sites and or quoting relevant text from them that addresses people's concerns? Could it be because there aren't any sites and/or they don't do anything to address anyone's concerns? I guess in the wild west days when they had snake oil salesmen you'd buy that stuff just so long as the salesman assured you it was safe or handed you a pamphlet he printed up saying it was safe?

 

[HempKat]

you know you can just buy the research chemicals themselves then add it to whatever you want right? you can soak tobacco in it and roll up some "cigarettes" and get high all day everywhere you are with none being the wiser...

like i said K.I.P.


also most of those packages either list what's in em on the package or on a website. if you cares to...ahem...research it

i don't know all this stuff by magic, i practice this long lost ancient technique called reading. really strengthens the brain.

but most of the "herbs" in those blends are as i said regular shit that people smoke for other reasons with no ill effects like damiana, cloves, salvia (not divonorum), and other shit like that. you're only fueling the "reefer madness" with your speculation and guesswork.

I see so I guess since it's on a web site then it must be true huh? I mean I heard on the internet that they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.

I just have to wonder though if this stuff you're reading on web sites is so factual and will ease peoples concerns then why aren't you posting those sites and or quoting relevant text from them that addresses people's concerns? Could it be because there aren't any sites and/or they don't do anything to address anyone's concerns? I guess in the wild west days when they had snake oil salesmen you'd buy that stuff just so long as the salesman assured you it was safe or handed you a pamphlet he printed up saying it was safe?

Knowledge is only power when you can tell the difference between it and crap.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

you know you can just buy the research chemicals themselves then add it to whatever you want right? quote]

I don't need to know that.

This site is for plants only, not for synthetics, or to educate on how to use them.

Peace

 

[stihgnobevoli]

Yep when you have no real supporting argument just turn to melodramatics. Nobody is saying the sky is falling because people use synthetic pot. They're saying it's an unregulated market where you never know for sure what you are getting and nobody is making sure it's safe and as a result people have been harmed by it. The packages say "Not for Human Consumption" maybe people should take that more seriously?

you know why it says that on the package right? riiight?? no you don't i bet. like i said KIP listen or don't i care not, i am only a messenger.

I just have to wonder though if this stuff you're reading on web sites is so factual and will ease peoples concerns then why aren't you posting those sites and or quoting relevant text from them that addresses people's concerns?

you mean...besides the TOU for this site that prohibit among other things talking about other drugs that aren't weed and posting links to places where you can talk about acquiring said drugs? anyway man i'm not here to hold your fucking hand, i already told you what you need, you quoted it even. how bout actually using the tools i have given you instead of trying to shout me down. i know what the fuck i'm talking about since like i said i spend all my fucking free time reading. and i guess you might never read this since JJ or some mod will come along and delete it claiming i'm being abusive because i like to express myself in cursive.

 

[m314]

I saw a Documenteryon this stuff, The Labs create and sell the chems, Anybody can buys this chemical online. However, SOMEONE still has to prepare whatever it is that is going to be smoked, maybe dried tree leaves for all we know, then that someone spreads it all out on the floor and sprays the chemical mixture on the stuff, then it dry's it is packaged then is sold in a package with a cool name, with a Label that says "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION"

Enough said

Peace

The "not for human consumption" label is strictly there for legal reasons. These companies would be shut down overnight if they say they're selling drugs to get you high. The term "research chemical" was created for the same reasons. It's strictly to get around the prohibition laws.

No one has to prepare anything to be smoked. I like dissolving cannabinoids (natural and synthetic) in 190 proof ethanol to make tinctures. Measure out 1/2 milliliter, and there's your safe 1 mg dose with the same predictable effects every time. It's not hard to understand volumetric dosing. People get into trouble (i.e. have a panic attack) when they try to eyeball doses of the pure cannabinoids.

Everyone on here is fascinated with the effects of cannabinoids like THC and CBD. I don't see why so many of you guys are close-minded regarding the effects of other cannabinoids like JWH-018 and AM-2201. They work through the exact same mechanisms on the exact same receptors. They feel like weed, and they have the same potential medicinal benefits. They fight pain, nausea, insomnia, cancer, etc. just like THC and CBD. They are not the evil drugs portrayed in the media stories today.

 

[Jericho Mile]

This thread cracks me up. It's like watching the news...watching people fall for propaganda. What happened to open minds? Some posters have it right...do some research.

Myself..I'm more the organic sort...but damn...I don't fear synthetics. They are not for me...yet...they are not demons either.

PropagandaPropagandaPropaganda....it's all over the thought process. Come on maaaaaaannnnnn...let's throw in some: made in china...just for good measure..like that's the evil slogan now. You know you have been suckered...when you resort to...the whole made in china thingy...you then sound...just like your TV or the old fuckers in the coffee shop...who bitch about politics

Christ..I wonder what went into all the acid I used to eat? And still...I didn't think I could fly...and jump off a building (like the media claimed I might). Shit was probably made in someone's bath tub...but wow...I used to get some killer stuff.

 

[m314]

Christ..I wonder what went into all the acid I used to eat? And still...I didn't think I could fly...and jump off a building (like the media claimed I might). Shit was probably made in someone's bath tub...but shit...I used to get some killer stuff.

I used to get some killer stuff too. Organically grown shrooms were awesome, same with organic San Pedro cactus. I happened to prefer acid over the natural psychedelics. There was just something special about the experience. I never jumped off a building either. I never became clinically insane, I never thought I was an orange and tried to peel myself, etc.

Random question for people here. If you had to go through some painful surgery, would you stick to opium only for pain control? Or would you take the doctor's script for hydrocodone? One's natural and comes from a plant, while the other is synthetic and comes from a laboratory. Not that either is healthy, but they're different in the same way that weed and synthetic cannabinoids are different.

 

[DarthFader1]

yeah, but at the same time your posts are somewhat obscure and you seem to be conversing with yourself.......

LOL

 

[supermanlives]

hey superman eventually died from the results of falling off a horse. anything is possible lol

 

[LEF]

lots of things say not for human consumption

but it's only for legal reasons

 

[Jericho Mile]

DMSO is not to be used on people (veterinarian use only)...labeled that way..but it's well known for aiding (rubbing it on) sore muscles. Use it all the time...buy it at a feed barn. Totally safe. Lots of research has been done on it.

Makes you smell like garlic..absorbs in your skin..within minutes you can taste garlic. Great stuff.

as pointed out....don't believe everything you read...including labels. Let's stop making more restrictions on our lives..what do you say...enough rules and regulations already? enough media fear mongering? enough threats of danger?

freedom of choice....ask DEVO.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

lots of things say not for human consumption

but it's only for legal reasons

They say that because if a human consumes it and has a reaction, they are legally protected that's why they do it.

Do you think grocery stores would get away with selling expired food under the guise of not for human consumption.

Nope

When you see a sign that says not for human consumption, your first move should not ne to immediately consume it.

Peace

 

[stihgnobevoli]

When you see a sign that says not for human consumption, your first move should not ne to immediately consume it.

so why would it be any different for a grocery store? they sell flowers at grocery stores that should not be consumed. for instance holly is poison. no one tries to eat it, but if they slapped a sign on it that says not for human consumption and someone ate it anyway and got sick, you're saying the store is liable for your stupidity?

you guys seem real determined to be anti research chemicals and knowledge, so imma let you finish. enjoy your ignorance.

 

[supermanlives]

confucious say, only dumbass buy drugs from clandestine lab in china. lol

 

[stihgnobevoli]

chemicals are chemicals my man, the formula is available for all who are able to understand it.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

so why would it be any different for a grocery store? they sell flowers at grocery stores that should not be consumed. for instance holly is poison. no one tries to eat it, but if they slapped a sign on it that says not for human consumption and someone ate it anyway and got sick, you're saying the store is liable for your stupidity?

you guys seem real determined to be anti research chemicals and knowledge, so imma let you finish. enjoy your ignorance.

You might have a case there actually, like a person bying coffee should assume it is hot, however the owner is responsible for selling a safe product, and you can bet if somebody ate that holly and got sick, you can bet there would be a legal disclaimer, not for human consumption.

Peace

 

[Bag]

fake wed got me thru my probation, god bless it ! , did i trip hard as fuck many many times yes, would i wish those trips on anyone no. but i found it very interesting but it took me to a dark place and i can see how people do fuycked up shit on it. i found a brand that worked for me and felt the most like weed in low doses. so glad im off that shit , it was an expensive addiction for sure.