Watch out! Synthetic marijuana!

[pappy masonjar]

Fuck fake weed.
My terepenoids, oh my terpenoids.
I wouldnt trade for the world.

Cannabis' medicinal properties come from much more than the Thc.
There are at least 64 other cannabanoids, not to mention terepens which are already proven medicines.

Lab made chemicals will never touch this beautiful herb.
Its like apples and shit.

Plus, you cant say its safe long term. Nobody can. It hasn't been around long enough for that to be determined. Cannabis on the other hand.... has.

Enjoy your stuff!

 

[Stoner4Life]

right on m314, I was just funnin' anyway from the get go.......

the reason they found marijuana in that guy was because they have approved protocols to determine if & how much cannabis is in a guys system. They likely found no cocaine in him but you can be sure he was tested for it along with heroin, meth, vicodin, etc, all with predetermined compounds that can be tested for.

So @ any given hospital how do they test for K2, Happy Daze, Scooby Snax, etc? If they don't have government/scientific breakdowns and legislation forbidding these exact compounds (and you can bet they vary a bit by each brand) then there are no protocols for any tests for them. If a drug or compound hasn't been determined to be illegal there's no need to test for it.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Same with spray paint.

Peace

 

[pappy masonjar]

Also, most hallucinogens cant be detected, and the ones that can are usually out of your system super quickly.

Not to mention the countless "research chemicals" available.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

jeez louise guys calm theee fuck down. it's synthetic weed, you don't like it we get it. but it's just sysnthesized cannabinoids, the canabinoids aren't even what get you high. that weed doesn't get you high the dopamine release it triggers in your brain is what gets you high. the synthetic thc does the same thing, triggers a release. so please. for the sake of science. calm the fuck down.

also i have smoked synth weed, it's the aforementioned chemicals soaked in some garden herbs and shit like cloves. the amount of the synthetic compound that goes into the equivalent smoking material to an ounce of weed is like less than the size of your average marijuana seed. and that little bit will get you more fucked up than any of those ballyhooed strains you guys hoard cuts of.

the first time.



which brings me to the second part of my story. after you smoked one blend, you pretty much smoked em all. they have different smells and flavors added but sides the first time you try a particular mix it will wow you, after that it's like that generic weed high. nothin special...does the job. least for me.


i haven't smoked any in years, my friend works in a market where drug tests need to be prepared for and he likes to get high. so he smokes it still. we're both still alive, pussies eaten too numerous to list, faces eaten. 0. but i suppose if there was a pussy on a face i might consider taking a bite.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Which Mechanism is this you speak of? And why should it be even associated with Cannabis in the first place?

Peace

 

[stihgnobevoli]

who me?

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/drugs/

i found this site useful, both educational and entertaining.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Sorry man I am in a bit late carry on

Peace

 

[vapor]

jeez louise guys calm theee fuck down. it's synthetic weed, you don't like it we get it. but it's just sysnthesized cannabinoids, the canabinoids aren't even what get you high. that weed doesn't get you high the dopamine release it triggers in your brain is what gets you high. the synthetic thc does the same thing, triggers a release. so please. for the sake of science. calm the fuck down.

also i have smoked synth weed, it's the aforementioned chemicals soaked in some garden herbs and shit like cloves. the amount of the synthetic compound that goes into the equivalent smoking material to an ounce of weed is like less than the size of your average marijuana seed. and that little bit will get you more fucked up than any of those ballyhooed strains you guys hoard cuts of.

the first time.



which brings me to the second part of my story. after you smoked one blend, you pretty much smoked em all. they have different smells and flavors added but sides the first time you try a particular mix it will wow you, after that it's like that generic weed high. nothin special...does the job. least for me.


i haven't smoked any in years, my friend works in a market where drug tests need to be prepared for and he likes to get high. so he smokes it still. we're both still alive, pussies eaten too numerous to list, faces eaten. 0. but i suppose if there was a pussy on a face i might consider taking a bite.

these chemical mimic thc when consumed it is not a copy calling it synthetic manahoochie is just fuct

 

[stihgnobevoli]

aight fine, whatever, it's chemically similar enough to the real compounds that it will trigger the same dopamine release, like a broken lock with a key that's sort of like what fits in there. happy now?

 

[vapor]

Always was happy how about you eh?
Your body when consuming these compounds may step them up or down and change them into all sorts of things. Some of the compound are funny and react much differently as per chemistry of the user. Me myself when i eat dillaudid{spinal cord injury} And i get a drug test at the doctor some times it comes up that codeine is in my system, so doc asks you been eating codeine? no i says, They sent to pathologist after i says no i dont eat any codeine. Pathologist says my body makes it out of the dillaudid. Our bodies are super cool eh peace

 

[paladin420]

It was bad around here. Parents so wacked we have dead babies. Shit is worthless, so are the parasites using it.
You don't want to be using it around me.

 

[canna woop!]

My opinion of synthetic cannabinoids is pronouncedly negative.

It may be hard for some people, users and non users. To see how they are different. But I think there is no argument about which substances have a longer history of use, and also the manner of use. It is more of a party drug than a sacrament.

you just don't have many people who make a connection with the drug that is beyond the sensory enjoyment, such as the opposite experience of cannabis that is spiritual, even intimate. I think the cannabis it's cultivation is based in certain values. Certainly a value for life. I am not saying every canna user finds that. But to me that's the difference between them, the negative health effect is even similar some canna buds that. Are grown wrong, I have been there before. There's just much more to life than synthetics IMO.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

Always was happy how about you eh?
Your body when consuming these compounds may step them up or down and change them into all sorts of things. Some of the compound are funny and react much differently as per chemistry of the user. Me myself when i eat dillaudid{spinal cord injury} And i get a drug test at the doctor some times it comes up that codeine is in my system, so doc asks you been eating codeine? no i says, They sent to pathologist after i says no i dont eat any codeine. Pathologist says my body makes it out of the dillaudid. Our bodies are super cool eh peace

i suggest you get a less shitty doctor if he gives you medicine and doesn't fucking know the effects it's gonna have on your body. my mom was a nurse, she had to memorize the whole LD/50 have you seen that book? it's thicker than the bible. she was a nurse, not a doctor. you need a better doctor.

i am happy, and i understand what you're saying. i was just momentarily distracted by the shittiness of your physician.

 

[m314]

Which Mechanism is this you speak of? And why should it be even associated with Cannabis in the first place?

Peace

Synthetic cannabinoids are associated with cannabis because they stimulate the CB1 and CB2 receptors just like THC and the other cannabinoids. Each synthetic cannabinoid feels like a different strain of weed. They all work on the cannabinoid receptor system, which evolved not from consuming THC but from endocannabinoids like anandamide that we all produce naturally. The plant based compounds happen to work on the same receptors, just like morphine and other natural opiates work on the same receptors as endorphins (meaning endogenous morphine).

When I said the synthetics were as safe as THC, I meant when used in moderation. I've read stories where some people claim they're more addictive, which would make sense if they're stronger. Still, a lot of them show the same medicinal potential as the natural cannabinoids. An early study with JWH-015 showed it had the same cancer fighting properties as THC and CBD.

Cannabis will always be my drug of choice. I've been growing it for 13 years, so I must love it. I just don't see the harm in responsible use of some of the synthetics. JWH-018, for instance, feels like one of the best sativa strains I've ever smoked. At the same time I can use it for getting work done or for getting to sleep at night depending on circumstances. Others are more relaxing, more "trippy", or whatever.

Each synthetic cannabinoid feels like a different strain of actual cannabis. When you see how many are out there, it's exciting. It's as exciting to me as when I read about new strains and decide what I'm going to grow next.

 

[vapor]

i suggest you get a less shitty doctor if he gives you medicine and doesn't fucking know the effects it's gonna have on your body. my mom was a nurse, she had to memorize the whole LD/50 have you seen that book? it's thicker than the bible. she was a nurse, not a doctor. you need a better doctor.

i am happy, and i understand what you're saying. i was just momentarily distracted by the shittiness of your physician.

LOL you so funny, Were i live i am lucky to have a doctor lol. There very few people that can memorize every interaction that happens with the myriad of medication on the market. I wouldn't put that expectation on anyone. She is a fine doctor,it is called verification. That's why she asks the pathologist to explain. It verifies that i am telling the truth for one, heaven forbid a doctor would be lied to. And god forbid a doctor could learn something new. I would imagine at the time they go through med school. There would be a few new discoveries in the world of medicine. So keeping up with all the new stuff these daze would be a full time job in itself. Don't get me wrong if i didn't have this issue with my spinal cord i would be the last dude at the doctor. But alas i am human..... Cant wait for the you tube video of your mother reciting the ld50 overdose manual. peace

 

[m314]

right on m314, I was just funnin' anyway from the get go.......

the reason they found marijuana in that guy was because they have approved protocols to determine if & how much cannabis is in a guys system. They likely found no cocaine in him but you can be sure he was tested for it along with heroin, meth, vicodin, etc, all with predetermined compounds that can be tested for.

So @ any given hospital how do they test for K2, Happy Daze, Scooby Snax, etc? If they don't have government/scientific breakdowns and legislation forbidding these exact compounds (and you can bet they vary a bit by each brand) then there are no protocols for any tests for them. If a drug or compound hasn't been determined to be illegal there's no need to test for it.

The synthetic cannabinoids are new enough that they haven't developed tests for them yet. Most of them, anyway. A few of the early ones to be banned like JWH-073 can be tested for now, but it's not a regular thing like testing for weed.

That's one of the biggest reasons why people try synthetics. They get a weed-like high without failing a drug test for probation or for their job. I don't have to worry about drug tests, so I'm free to smoke / eat / vaporize all the weed that I want. I still enjoy certain synthetics occasionally.

I've never tried "fake weed" by the way. The pure synthetic cannabinoids are cheap and easy to find online. I don't see a reason to buy "Scooby Snax" or whatever when it's just an unknown cannabinoid blend sprayed on some herbs for smoking. The blends are more for people who want to get high without doing the research into what's actually getting them high.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Wait till Monsanto gets ahold of a license to produce medical MG

Peace

 

[supermanlives]

the Chinese fuck up kids toys. I sure aint trusting some foreign unregulated lab with my health. and they keep changing formulas to avoid the laws. I don't have the need my weed kicks my ass still after all these years.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

Amen to that eh!