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killerqueen(lonestar) genetic drift

truecannabliss

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This cut is a known carrier of broad mites so i expect that may have something to do with what your noticing.
Peace
 
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GreenPlant

After a little Deliberation I've Decided I like the Green Logo Best True Canna :D

Killa Queen's Great (if heavy is what you are after) :smoker:


Yep Sleep Inducing Kushty.. Like no Other imoe.. [WELL!]
Tigers milk too. (Hence name,probably)
Katsu Bubba Kush also

P98 Bk is gr8 for "Lunar" hours too
Interesting (and pretty) Stuff that
Lots of Trichs as with the KQ
 

doneit

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BUMP...

After receiving this so called mutated KQ back from the UK, i have had the opportunity to run it side by side with the Original.
Keep in mind that i am the original sender over to the UK of lonestars KQ and have grown her for many yrs.

There is in NO WAY this is the same plant!
Some one over there has exchanged the Original with an imposter! lol

This new version of killer queen is not even close in any manner, no resemblance at all.

1- Totally different structure and growth pattern, in veg she grows fat leaves, thick branches with long inter space between nodes, the real deal is very viney with crazy shoots everywhere.
2- No signs of pre flower, which is a natural trait of lonestars KQ
3- No fruity goodness smell in veg
4- Bud structure is totally different.. does not swell and foxtail like the real deal
5- Totally different type of hi, this one is AVG stoner weed
6- smell is similar but no where near as fruity tropical goodness as lones
7- Flower times are 2 weeks longer and never seems to be quit finished

whomever swapped this strain out, either on purpose or accident needs to fess up!

This imitation queen is being spread all over the UK, I feel sorry for the people that have hi expectations with this cut.. what a let down and waste of time.
 

Aardwolf

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So there isn't a KQ in the uk being passed about. It was being spread, RIL has been away a while, he first noticed the disorder or so he says when after spraying some cuttings with a particular brand of pesticide, they grew out funny in flower and the cuttings he took from them also carried this disorder,,, which now looks utter BS!

Different plant you say?

I take it you still have the mother or clone of the mum of which the genetic material was sent to the UK? And has this clone stayed true to type?
 

doneit

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Aard..
No thats not the case with RIL... I believe he got a new cut as a replacement in case his original didnt pull threw.
He is aware they are not the same, i just verified it.
the real cut is indeed in the UK.. just be careful where its being sourced from.. i received this FAKE cut from a good friend in the UK that was totally unaware that its fake.

It is most definitely not the real deal

And yes Aard, i was able to obtain the original cut from a friend i sent it to 4 yrs ago, he received it from my original mothers.. it is FOR SURE as special as it was when i first got it in 06-07, hasnt lost a step.

the real deal is not fussy like some people have stated, i have found it to be one of the most dependable and durable plants i have come across, and i have had a few, lol
 

Aardwolf

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So, are we saying that the spray RIL used on the first KQ caused a change and that change caused the plant which you received that is totally different, or are we saying that the person that sorted RIL his first cutting gave him a real one as above and that was true KQ then later gave a different clone? If so which one was sprayed the real one and did it mutate? It seems a fact that he ordered some more from the Fairy and what came was different (Not KQ) or was it the same clone and the spray caused a mutation to his original mother??

I say it is RIL's source from what I can put together.
 

doneit

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RIL most definitely had the real deal, the spray did fuck it up, not sure on the extent tho?


I do not know where this fake cut originated from? but RIL and a few other UK bros had it unknowingly.

I dont know if he ordered it from the fairy of the original source? if he did it may make a little sense then. seeing that those guys were attempting some breeding with the Original KQ, very possible it was mixed up a long the line... if were talking about the same people that is.

either way, the REAL Killer Queen is a very special plant, not the most potent, but indeed a keeper.. the imposter is a throw away..lol
 

Aardwolf

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Cheers for clearing things up doneit! I hope your well, and that your buddy or you keep that KQ clone safe as those guys done F'd up again. Shameful..

Take care
 

doneit

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Dank Demon

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RIL most definitely had the real deal, the spray did fuck it up, not sure on the extent tho?


I do not know where this fake cut originated from? but RIL and a few other UK bros had it unknowingly.

I dont know if he ordered it from the fairy of the original source? if he did it may make a little sense then. seeing that those guys were attempting some breeding with the Original KQ, very possible it was mixed up a long the line... if were talking about the same people that is.

either way, the REAL Killer Queen is a very special plant, not the most potent, but indeed a keeper.. the imposter is a throw away..lol

A long time ago I received the original cut of KQ which as soon as I had it I passed it only to RIL. I then liked it so much that I ditched pretty much all my other strains for her. I used to grow her to about 3' tall bush and take cuts then flower off the mum, and use one of the cuts as the new mum and flower the rest. I did this for years and in doing so I noticed changes in her bud structure and leaf shape and she was becoming a heavy feeder with no signs of preflowers in veg unlike when I first had her. You have verified that RIL first cut before the spray disaster was the real deal and the one he has now a fake, but both came from me at different times. Now I get stoned and my memory can sometimes be shit and I make mistakes like the rest of humanity, but when it comes to my plants and taking cuts I will only take cuts off one (Mum) strain at a time and label as I do it as I like to know what I am smoking.At the time I had her I was growing nothing else or taking on anything new at the time to confuse it with. The one I call Killer Queen and will always call Killer Queen is the one that I have owned for years and has changed since owning. I am not trying to doubt what you say doneit I am just telling you how this all came about. At the end of the day IMHO this KQ I have ticks all my boxes and will be with me forever.

RIP Lonestar

Peace
 
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Fields~of~Green

dd is correct they are the same cut but his has changed it's drifted to the g13 side a heavy hitting indica type with a slightly longer flower time as you know the original is very cindy Dom with that nice grapey aroma
there's nothing wrong with mine now she's back to her normal self her structure was the same she just grew alot slower than I remember

I didn't like the recent one I got but everyone's likes are different

I think I will flower her out this next run but I will take cuts first
 

doneit

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Frank.. i dunno bro?
The cut i received back from HGO is not lonestars.. Im assuming that RIL and HGO have the same cuts?

Like i said before..I have at one time or another tortured this strain in every way possible... Not once has it diminished in quality or genetic drift if thats possible?

I stole this pic from your gallery bro.. it is labeled Lonestars KQ
I gotta tell you bro... that doesn't even kinda look like the real deal.. compare it to the above.. no similarities.

 

doneit

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AHHH.. ok, just thought of something..

Maybe HGO sent me something else? and you guys just simply fuked yer shits up? lol
 

doneit

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This is the new version after taking cuts.. they were real thick stemmed etc.. not lones for sure

do you guys think its one of the others you have?
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Aardwolf

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doneit have you smoked the fake?? or the throw away! I assume that DD isn’t keeping the throw-away, its sad if he is.
 
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Fields~of~Green

what's with the 3 finger leaves?
any pre flowers ?
looks like dd one
 
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Fields~of~Green

doneit have you smoked the fake?? or the throw away! I assume that DD isn’t keeping the throw-away, its sad if he is.



aard you the sad one get a grip maybe dank likes it better ps its not a fake either so stop calling it one

I've smoked both and they are different danks is heavy allmost full on indica effects my one is more racey

tbh when you grow stuff like stardawg the white etc the kq is less appealing its great yeah hence why i kept her so long but there's better out there
 

Dank Demon

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doneit have you smoked the fake?? or the throw away! I assume that DD isn’t keeping the throw-away, its sad if he is.

I am not sad but yes I am keeping my "throw- away KQ as you put it as it was the same KQ that Doneit verified as the real deal in RIL earlier pics and I also know its the same KQ that was passed to me many years ago that changed that's all I can say as I only ran KQ for ages so cannot be confused with anything else?

Peace :tiphat:
 
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