Grab on to them with a pair of needle nose pliers and pull. Replace the o-ring that comes out with it.
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Terpenation at Terpene Station
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Grab on to them with a pair of needle nose pliers and pull. Replace the o-ring that comes out with it.
Lighter colors from colder tanks and fresher material and little to no heat on the collection pot. If you dont ice your tank down well enough you will get darker waxier results. Getting enough ice to get your tank as cold as possible is important if you want better results IME. When I did ambient temp runs not only was recovery slow, the oil was poop like. Brown, cloudy wax. Here is a crudely adapted refrigerator turned tank cooler. It works very well and I will be adding a manifold for easy connecting when removing and weighing tanks as well as a bulkhead fitting to drain water.
I recently tried doing a run with the collection pot with ethanol added. Maybe a 1/8" deep in the bottom of the pot. I did 3 columns before removing the collection. It poured out easy and left a sparkling collection pot. Not sure how much I like this method. I think I will try it a few more times before sayings its all good.
Just wondering if anyone else has tried this?
If so, what were the results?
One thing I thought of, is that if you get any material past your screens its going to get chlorophyll in your oil. I noticed it did not alter the fragrance as much as when I winterize the normal way. In fact it was MUCH better for the keeping the smell more like the original material. More trials are in order before I can say for certain.
FE
Just wondering if anyone else has tried this?
If so, what were the results?
One thing I thought of, is that if you get any material past your screens its going to get chlorophyll in your oil. I noticed it did not alter the fragrance as much as when I winterize the normal way. In fact it was MUCH better for the keeping the smell more like the original material. More trials are in order before I can say for certain.
FE
nice Lebniis, how does it dab?
I dunno what Im doing wrong but my oil keeps coming out in odd shapes. maybe its too much vacuum?
Egyptian sourcoughakush
I dunno what Im doing wrong but my oil keeps coming out in odd shapes. maybe its too much vacuum?
Egyptian sourcoughakush
Yeah you would definitely be adding atmosphere. That's why you would just use an additional appion and recovery tank. You can just burp the tank and refill remaining void. Rotating tanks would be optimal.
RegisPhilburn1
Member
Im pretty sure you shouldnt do that as you will be recovering some ethanol into your recovery tank, which is probably not good. + 5% water. id empty and clean out that tank.
Sorry if this has been covered havent found an answer, pm me a link if need be..
How do you distinguish butane from propane when burping?
How do you distinguish butane from propane when burping?
High Life
Listen for the pressure to drop, then shut the vapor valve.
Listen for the pressure to drop, then shut the vapor valve.
Momerath
Active member
LOL @ FE. Yeah looks like way too much vac to me 
As far as distinguishing butane from propane during burp, it will be easy if you have your tank cold (under 30f) as the butane will remain a liquid, and any propane and possible isobutane will be a vapor at this point. I burp when my tank is about 15f, so I am reasonably sure I am not burping off any butane is it should all still be liquid at those temps. If you are burping off at ambient temp, it will be harder to tell.
Also I am curious just how cold you guys are able to get your tank without dry ice? I have gotten it as low as 10f with an ice/salt bath. That seems to be cold enough for de-waxing in the collection vessel, as well as make a very pretty, light colored extract. Haven't run with dry ice yet as its a long trip just to get some.
As far as distinguishing butane from propane during burp, it will be easy if you have your tank cold (under 30f) as the butane will remain a liquid, and any propane and possible isobutane will be a vapor at this point. I burp when my tank is about 15f, so I am reasonably sure I am not burping off any butane is it should all still be liquid at those temps. If you are burping off at ambient temp, it will be harder to tell.
Also I am curious just how cold you guys are able to get your tank without dry ice? I have gotten it as low as 10f with an ice/salt bath. That seems to be cold enough for de-waxing in the collection vessel, as well as make a very pretty, light colored extract. Haven't run with dry ice yet as its a long trip just to get some.
What RP said.
What BF said, plus odor. Start by chilling your tank down to under n-butanes boiling point of about 31.5F.
When you first open the vapor valve, there is a high pressure non condensable gas (air) release, followed by a slower pressure propane release if you also have it present, followed by a really slow release if Isobutane is present.
When you hear the first abrupt velocity change, if you whiff the discharge, you can smell the faint odor of propane, and close the valve.
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If water is the only concern then its not a big deal. My parker 303 will certainly grab any water that may have been picked up.
So GW, >.. I was told through the grapevine that originally you made the 1st terpenator to be ran with ethanol in the collection... Any truth to this rumor?
So GW, >.. I was told through the grapevine that originally you made the 1st terpenator to be ran with ethanol in the collection... Any truth to this rumor?
Is anyone using more filter driers than just the one on the appion? How about regular filtering of the tank?
None. I've never used it for anything but washing the extraction out of the lower pot after extraction. I'm pretty sure it would end up contaminating the butane in the recovery tank, just like it will pick up water given time.
Holden Oversoul
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I preface by saying that I'm no chemist other than High School level of understanding...Why wouldn't the lower boiling point of the butane prevent the alcohol from leaving the collection pot as a vapor?
