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Gray Wolf

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co2extractor said:
No Eden is not as great when it comes to pruduct purity, nor aware of how to properly condition the extracts ideal for cannabis cup. I know where the sweet spot is by analysis given by various testing methods used. The tests today are basically screening for salmonilla and e-coli contaminates since its for human consuption or not.
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Having been one of the Seattle Cup Judges for concentrate, I can tell you that no SCFE CO2 extracts won and that the judging was close enough that all five judges agreed on the first two places first round, with no further discussion, and only had to discuss the third place.

CO2 may end up being the best thing since sliced bread, but no one has offered the winning CO2 extract yet.

Here they tests for mold and retained solvents, but not bacteria.
 
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co2 extraction pulls so much plant waxes, unless winterized with ethanol, I've seen samples as low as 40% total cannabinoids, they also have no where near as good of flavor either. Imo the nature of a co2 exraction, i.e. very high pressure and heat is just to aggressive to make delicious, pretty and potent extracts like dry ice/butane combo does.

many co2 extracts have been entered in multiply competitions and have never ever placed.
 
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Idk where you guys obtain your co2 concentrate, but around here bho is most popular by far. However, when sideby side comparisons where done w people who thought butane achieves the most potent extract, these people were now doubting there solvent of choice as the yields were small in comparison, along w harsh, and noticably weaker than the extract I pulled off the same plant matter but w more advanced methods. I can honestly say that where ever I go, people having direct contact w me are easily convinced that butane is weak when compared to real medication. So the fact is, GW isn't doing something right if co2 loses to tane. So self taught doesn't mean he knows didley squat.
 
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I posted how to instructions on my over simplified methods. Shortly after, he had me banned for spam as I told him I had a scfe for $5,000. All the while my posts on my methods are still posted on *********. So he can think he's self taught, but I schooled the shit out of him and who knows what bits and pieces he uses or ignores to dervive his methods. Its perhaps why he sticks to butane vs going green about obtaining his desired compounds of interest. I would win a cannabis cup in any competition around the world. The only people standing a chance is people who understand the beast at work. GW is researching the field skeptically since he isn't having promising results. I'm known
 
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For having dank ass product. Better than what shops sell, as there shit is an antagonist for my asthema, my shit allows me to breath w out that painful repercussion of underperged butane residues. So a motto of mine is "You don't have to cough to get off" as my shit is pleasant to dab or glob no matter how one desires to be wasteful. No penalty of being crippled from harshness. I hate that feeling and undergrduate extracts as well.
 
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co2extractor said:
For having dank ass product. Better than what shops sell, as there shit is an antagonist for my asthema, my shit allows me to breath w out that painful repercussion of underperged butane residues. So a motto of mine is "You don't have to cough to get off" as my shit is pleasant to dab or glob no matter how one desires to be wasteful. No penalty of being crippled from harshness. I hate that feeling and undergrduate extracts as well.
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So you have the best product in the world and can win every cannabis cup but you have no pictures or information to share? Sounds like a bunch of talk until you start showing us something. What's the point of coming here and talking shit? Don't you have better things to do with your time?
 
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Isobutane nor n-butane extracts terps. Hexane is for terpinoids. Fyi. Iso is justway cleaner to extract w. Its almost as if people are misconcieved about 5x or 7x thinking its going to yield more. Fact is n-butane refined 7x is still dirtier than iso butane because of its arrangment. Isobutane is branched and allows a more complete combustion where n-butane is a strait chain and its combustion leaves at least one unburned carbon molecule behind. That's why lighters clog when using cheap tane.
 
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I got popped for manufacturing. They raided me w AR-15's and took 2.5lbs of weed from me, 6 grams of oil, scale, $200 of lab glass, 50 vials, money from my pocket, phone,etc . And threw it into evidence.I thought I was done. I made a statement and avoided the DA persuing charges. When my phone was returned two months later I factory reset that mug out of paranoia. Sorry I deleted any proof, but I can easily repeat my process to do it again. No weed was returned, still haven'tgot back my money and only a fraction of what was taken has been returned. But I'm free as a bird vs stuck in a cell for 8 year minimam charge.
 
SpaceshipNelson

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co2extractor said:
Idk where you guys obtain your co2 concentrate, but around here bho is most popular by far. However, when sideby side comparisons where done w people who thought butane achieves the most potent extract, these people were now doubting there solvent of choice as the yields were small in comparison, along w harsh, and noticably weaker than the extract I pulled off the same plant matter but w more advanced methods. I can honestly say that where ever I go, people having direct contact w me are easily convinced that butane is weak when compared to real medication. So the fact is, GW isn't doing something right if co2 loses to tane. So self taught doesn't mean he knows didley squat.
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you sir, operate with erroneous logic. . .
 
indianajones

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if they are prosecuting people for making concentrates with butane because of the risk of fire (from what i know about cali law now, they are), making a statement that you performed the extraction with CO2 would allow you to avoid prosecution.

unfortunately, idiots don't follow proper procedure with butane (not calling any of you idiots since im sure all of you follow proper procedure). as we have so often seen, a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch.
 
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vapeman24

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Gotta love people who make the best concentrates in the world but don't have access to a camera to take a picture of their product. Maybe people would believe your c02 is good if you gave anybody an opportunity to do so. Show us the proof, we don't want to hear stories.

Reminds me of a time a clinic owner tried to persuade me his wax didn't have butane in it. His demonstration consisted of lighting a dab on fire and saying "Look no sparks!". I had to argue with him for five minutes that unless you can show me a residual solvent analysis on the wax, there is no way I believe anything you say. If you want to be treated like a professional and do thinks the correct way, act accordingly.

Aka, don't claim you have the worlds best concentrate without backing it up.
 
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co2extractor said:
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Isobutane nor n-butane extracts terps. Hexane is for terpinoids. Fyi. Iso is justway cleaner to extract w. Its almost as if people are misconcieved about 5x or 7x thinking its going to yield more. Fact is n-butane refined 7x is still dirtier than iso butane because of its arrangment. Isobutane is branched and allows a more complete combustion where n-butane is a strait chain and its combustion leaves at least one unburned carbon molecule behind. That's why lighters clog when using cheap tane.
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:laughing:

So explain to me how a another non polar hydrocarbon alkane (hexane) extracts terpenes, but non polar hydrocarbon alkane (butane) does not? Why did all the butane extracts at the last secret cup in seattle test the highest terpenes and flavonoids, when butane extracts no terpenes?

STOP SPREADING YOUR STUPID MISINFORMATION. :moon:

I highly doubt your co2 extract would win any cups over fullmelt, raw bho and dewaxed bho.
 
Sam_Skunkman

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FYI, I have never had a better smoke then dry sift 99.9% resin heads. It does depend on the variety, you want to smoke what variety you like.
But that said I have had stronger solvent extracts, but not better, it is the terpenes with the THC, like found in dry sift, that is what you want. Most extracts are short on terpenes.
You can make 99.9% resin heads dry sift to over 80% THC, it is hard to smoke on a screen as it just melts and runs through any screen no matter how fine the mesh. You can smoke it with several stacked screens and a hot heat source.

I saw my first Co2 extract more then 10 years ago.
Made with a Supercritical carbon dioxide machine that cost several hundred thousand dollars.
I liked the idea of no chemical solvent.
But I never had a Co2 extract that was really really great, not yet....
-SamS
 
Sam_Skunkman

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Purity is what you want, or what I want anyway.

As for stainless or titanium screens, I heat them cherry red several times before I ever use them, I don't think they are out gassing anymore.
I can't taste them, that is for sure.
I like a Roor glass bong, with very fine screens.
I only smoke dry sift, very occasional water sift.

What are you smoking? In what kind of pipe?
-SamS

one.sixoneeight said:
Why bother with all the effort on purity sam, if you're just going to use metal screens. Hello off gassing.
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