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Gorilla Glue #4...
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And since it came from JW's closet no one finds it difficult to believe 
I just didn't want anyone else not to like me, ive got a wife for that
it actually does, even with lesbo crosses. The correct way to do it with female on female; is Female (seed bearer) x Reversed Female (pollen donor)
There really is no lesbianism. Its more like a real women and a tranny. so its still basically female x male (reversed female)
At least thats what i was taught.
and i hope im not pissing anyone off for offering my opinion on the subject. I know its not that important, and some of you could give a shit, but im just throwing my 2 cents in there.
I don't care either for many it might not matter. but when trying to tell someone the linage I want to be correct that's all.
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chazz michaels
usually i notate a (r) after any females donating pollen....
like gsc would be fla og x f1/durb(r).... just a little clearer... ive seen it used other places
i use that example only cause im foggy now on gg4 after all the confusion...and maybe a lil lazy too..... but like phillthy said no matter really since all i need is like .067 of one of uncs pics and im sold
like gsc would be fla og x f1/durb(r).... just a little clearer... ive seen it used other places
i use that example only cause im foggy now on gg4 after all the confusion...and maybe a lil lazy too..... but like phillthy said no matter really since all i need is like .067 of one of uncs pics and im sold
Nevil puts his females first. He felt that its the correct way to do it for Cannabis. We discissed it one night. He is also a champion breeder of animals. ( I think sheep, birds, and dogs) I dont know how he has done those.
I was always taught ladies first!
thanks JW for stating which once was correct...again.
dank.Frank
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DJXXPLATINUM
GOT ROOTS ON ALL THE GG#4 SENT TO ME....WOO HOO....BEEN WANTING THIS GIRL FOR A LONG TIME...THANKS TO WHOEVER BREWED THIS GIRL UP...DJ
Working on reversing the GG#4 for some viable pollen.
If all goes well will have S1's and crosses of most of my favorite strains
If all goes well will have S1's and crosses of most of my favorite strains
sorry for the long post
sorry for the long post
Nice. That Max feller will be geeeekked.
Ok. I just wanna add a couple last thoughts about the lineage subject. Im not trying to beat a dead horse, but i think it is important. I looked through some of the newer cannabis books i have, and its obvious that even most "professionals" dont have the foggiest.
Out of all the books i looked at, only Ed Rosenthal put any consideration into the importance of this.
And not only did he consistently do it correctly, but he added ♂♀symbols just to make it clear to all. Its almost like the other guys dont give a shit, or thought, 'it doesnt matter to anyone'. And it doesnt matter to most people, but it does to some. Im not saying its uber important or anything like that. But since our community is going more legit, id say its about time we finally try to standardize this. I can tell you that I personally find it really annoying and unnecessary, that when im looking through a "strain guide" (that i paid at least $20 for), and if im not familiar with the strain, and the author put no consideration into how to properly write the lineage, i'll have no idea which parent is the female or male, or how the cross was made.
Perfect example: This piece of garbage.
The High Times Strain Guide. They cant even decide which way to do it. That, or they are absolutely clueless. They put zero rhyme or reason into how they wrote it. Depending on the strain in the book, it could be listed (Male x Female) or (Female x Male). So if a reader is unfamiliar with a strain, they will have no idea which parent is which. And I thought the whole point of strain guides, was to familiarize youself with new strains. Strains your unfamiliar with.
At least this M.O.ron kept it consistent vvvvvvvvvv
he had it wrong, but at least once i figured out which way he was listing them, i could at least kinda tell what was going on.
Anyways, my point is, if we as a community can come together and agree on this, there will be a lot less confusion for everyone. I actually saw a breeder here on IC, post a picture of kief from a "Reversed Male". I was like, uhhh. I think obviously, he meant a female that he reversed into a male. But the correct way to write that is, a "Reversed Female". It was confusing to say the least. I mean... did, he reverse a male? Never heard of that, and i dont think theres a point. So I doubt thats what he meant, but its super confusing. Thats my point. It could save a lot of time and energy by just standardizing all of this.
Another huge problem that seems extremely common with written genetic lineages; is when people dont use (parenthesis) or [brackets].
Example. Subcool, (who, btw, i hate to even mention on this site outta respect for GN) for some reason or another, must find it waaayy to time consuming to add a ( or a ] here or there. He is consistent with the Female x Male thing, but its almost just as bad. I mean, how hard is it to just add parenthesis, or a ♂,♀ symbol; or like outcast said, at least a (m) or (f). Anyways, here is the example. Its from his Dank 2.0 book.
Ok, now because i am familiar with this strain, i can decifer it. But if i wasn't, i'd be confused as shit. Let me show you how much a couple of parenthesis can clear things up.
{[(Pluton x Purple Haze x Lambs Bread x Nl♀) x (Jack Herer♂)♀] x [Romulan x c99♂]}
That is technically the correct way to write it out. But i would have written it:
[Jacks Cleaner♀ x Space Queen( Aka Space Dude)♂]
and i would add a notation:
Jacks Cleaner♀(f) = ((Pluton x Purple Haze x Lambs Bread X NL)♀) x (Jack Herer♂)
Space Queen♂(m) = (Romulan x c99)
Does anybody think either way I listed it, is more confusing than Sub's way? Its like he could give a shit
vvvvvvvvvv
Pluton x Purple Haze x Lambs Bread x NL x Jack Herer x Romulan x Cindy99
..... I think my way gives a tad bit more clarity into how the strain was created. And certainly which parents were female or male.
*(Also, clearly subcool is an idiot. Not only does he say, "This strain represents the sum total of all my breeding experience.". Which is a complete joke looking at how denotes lineage, and more importantly the fact that he is about the same level of a low-numbers pollen chucker as me!. But also, LMFAO at, "untopped and vegged to a full bush". What? If you want a full bush, why in the hell wouldnt you top and train? Yeah, the "sum total of your breeding experience" huh?)
And i guess not much thought has gone into standardizing this, but i think its time we start. I did a super quick google on the subject, and there was almost nothing on the topic. I did find a couple things. A post from 2009, on some forum, where a guy is saying the same thing I am. He said, can we just all agree on this? nobody seemed to care, and here we are, 5 years later, and still the same confusion.
So i thought about starting a thread trying to get everyone on the same page. At least here at ICmag. But i decided against it due to the fact I am pretty new to the site. And its human nature to dislike newbies. Especially if they are "telling people (who have been here for a looong time) what to do", in a way. So id rather not. But any more senior members who wish to copy this info. feel absolutely free. I know its kind of a mess, but its a start i figure. You could call the thread somethin like, "Female x Male. Ladies First Always."
o yeah, and heres a quote from 2008, from someone else on another site, complaing about this.
And one final note; there isnt ONE picture in any of those books, that hold a flame to unclefishsick's pictures. I said that when i first joined the site, and ill say it again. That new fella outcast, he shits on these books as well. Much Respect fellas
(and please dont anyone take this as a snub. Im not familiar with too many people's work yet, and those 2 just really shine imo.)
Sorry for the interruption to your regularly scheduled thread. Please resume your monkeying around folks!
sorry for the long post
Nice. That Max feller will be geeeekked.
Ok. I just wanna add a couple last thoughts about the lineage subject. Im not trying to beat a dead horse, but i think it is important. I looked through some of the newer cannabis books i have, and its obvious that even most "professionals" dont have the foggiest.
Out of all the books i looked at, only Ed Rosenthal put any consideration into the importance of this.
And not only did he consistently do it correctly, but he added ♂♀symbols just to make it clear to all. Its almost like the other guys dont give a shit, or thought, 'it doesnt matter to anyone'. And it doesnt matter to most people, but it does to some. Im not saying its uber important or anything like that. But since our community is going more legit, id say its about time we finally try to standardize this. I can tell you that I personally find it really annoying and unnecessary, that when im looking through a "strain guide" (that i paid at least $20 for), and if im not familiar with the strain, and the author put no consideration into how to properly write the lineage, i'll have no idea which parent is the female or male, or how the cross was made.
Perfect example: This piece of garbage.
The High Times Strain Guide. They cant even decide which way to do it. That, or they are absolutely clueless. They put zero rhyme or reason into how they wrote it. Depending on the strain in the book, it could be listed (Male x Female) or (Female x Male). So if a reader is unfamiliar with a strain, they will have no idea which parent is which. And I thought the whole point of strain guides, was to familiarize youself with new strains. Strains your unfamiliar with.
At least this M.O.ron kept it consistent vvvvvvvvvv
he had it wrong, but at least once i figured out which way he was listing them, i could at least kinda tell what was going on.
Anyways, my point is, if we as a community can come together and agree on this, there will be a lot less confusion for everyone. I actually saw a breeder here on IC, post a picture of kief from a "Reversed Male". I was like, uhhh. I think obviously, he meant a female that he reversed into a male. But the correct way to write that is, a "Reversed Female". It was confusing to say the least. I mean... did, he reverse a male? Never heard of that, and i dont think theres a point. So I doubt thats what he meant, but its super confusing. Thats my point. It could save a lot of time and energy by just standardizing all of this.
Another huge problem that seems extremely common with written genetic lineages; is when people dont use (parenthesis) or [brackets].
Example. Subcool, (who, btw, i hate to even mention on this site outta respect for GN) for some reason or another, must find it waaayy to time consuming to add a ( or a ] here or there. He is consistent with the Female x Male thing, but its almost just as bad. I mean, how hard is it to just add parenthesis, or a ♂,♀ symbol; or like outcast said, at least a (m) or (f). Anyways, here is the example. Its from his Dank 2.0 book.
Ok, now because i am familiar with this strain, i can decifer it. But if i wasn't, i'd be confused as shit. Let me show you how much a couple of parenthesis can clear things up.
{[(Pluton x Purple Haze x Lambs Bread x Nl♀) x (Jack Herer♂)♀] x [Romulan x c99♂]}
That is technically the correct way to write it out. But i would have written it:
[Jacks Cleaner♀ x Space Queen( Aka Space Dude)♂]
and i would add a notation:
Jacks Cleaner♀(f) = ((Pluton x Purple Haze x Lambs Bread X NL)♀) x (Jack Herer♂)
Space Queen♂(m) = (Romulan x c99)
Does anybody think either way I listed it, is more confusing than Sub's way? Its like he could give a shit
vvvvvvvvvv
Pluton x Purple Haze x Lambs Bread x NL x Jack Herer x Romulan x Cindy99
..... I think my way gives a tad bit more clarity into how the strain was created. And certainly which parents were female or male.
*(Also, clearly subcool is an idiot. Not only does he say, "This strain represents the sum total of all my breeding experience.". Which is a complete joke looking at how denotes lineage, and more importantly the fact that he is about the same level of a low-numbers pollen chucker as me!. But also, LMFAO at, "untopped and vegged to a full bush". What? If you want a full bush, why in the hell wouldnt you top and train? Yeah, the "sum total of your breeding experience" huh?)
And i guess not much thought has gone into standardizing this, but i think its time we start. I did a super quick google on the subject, and there was almost nothing on the topic. I did find a couple things. A post from 2009, on some forum, where a guy is saying the same thing I am. He said, can we just all agree on this? nobody seemed to care, and here we are, 5 years later, and still the same confusion.
So i thought about starting a thread trying to get everyone on the same page. At least here at ICmag. But i decided against it due to the fact I am pretty new to the site. And its human nature to dislike newbies. Especially if they are "telling people (who have been here for a looong time) what to do", in a way. So id rather not. But any more senior members who wish to copy this info. feel absolutely free. I know its kind of a mess, but its a start i figure. You could call the thread somethin like, "Female x Male. Ladies First Always."
o yeah, and heres a quote from 2008, from someone else on another site, complaing about this.
And one final note; there isnt ONE picture in any of those books, that hold a flame to unclefishsick's pictures. I said that when i first joined the site, and ill say it again. That new fella outcast, he shits on these books as well. Much Respect fellas
(and please dont anyone take this as a snub. Im not familiar with too many people's work yet, and those 2 just really shine imo.)
Sorry for the interruption to your regularly scheduled thread. Please resume your monkeying around folks!
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It's hard to get everyone agree on something. Everyone has their habits. For example, I never use the "M" word. I think it's wrong. It's the slave name of Cannabis. But try to get people to change their habits, and you run into a brick wall. I will only call it cannabis, though.
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krustallos: Please put me on the front of your list if you plan to share these Thanks MaxWorking on reversing the GG#4 for some viable pollen.
If all goes well will have S1's and crosses of most of my favorite strains
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