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were there documented people with supernatural abilities?

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SooperSmurph

@SooperSmurph: Sure that there wasn't a time delay even if it was "live"?
Could be a series of coincidences? Or you just cry "fault" every 3 seconds LoL...
Seriously, I don't consider these sorts of things supernatural as the chances are possible (even if they're as small as winning in a big lottery or a casino).

Maybe 20 years back, when walking home at night, there was an old street light which used to go on and off some times. Strange but not bizarre, it used to go off regularly when I walked underneath and turned on again when a was a few meters away again. But that night it got a bit weird when I walked underneath, deep in my thoughts, when it didn't turn on again and then the next street light went off when I stepped underneath and also the one after that. That third one took me out of contemplation and, approaching the fourth light, I tried to focus my mind on that one to make it go off but it didn't. Neither did the following nor the ones after that... a few hundred meters later I lost interest and sunk back into my thoughts when the one overhead turned off again. I got a bit spooked and didn't fell back into deep thoughts and got home with all the lights staying on. The day after (maybe two) I saw that they had changed the bulbs of those four light (they were orange sodium-vapour before and the newer white mercury ones afterwards); so they have been broken and were not just flickering due old age...
Was it just mere coincidence or had it something to do with me stepping underneath AND being a bit lost in deep thoughts? At least, I don't feel like having supernatural abilities or I could repeat that trick. Or maybe it only worked on those old sodium-vapour bulbs?
The delay was the standard if any, Andre was making his last pro appearance at the US Open.
 

Only Ornamental

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The delay was the standard if any
Standard is around 7 seconds or longer ;) . Maybe it wasn't you (if ever) who either felt it coming or even induced it but maybe you felt it when it had already happened. And even then, an esoteric person might speculate that you didn't felt Andre's opponent fault but rather all the emotions emitted by those hundred persons in the stadium? Wonder over wonder...
I wonder sometimes whether mankind ever figures out all these things or if there will always happen plenty of 'miracles' on earth.
 
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SooperSmurph

Standard is around 7 seconds or longer ;) . Maybe it wasn't you (if ever) who either felt it coming or even induced it but maybe you felt it when it had already happened. And even then, an esoteric person might speculate that you didn't felt Andre's opponent fault but rather all the emotions emitted by those hundred persons in the stadium? Wonder over wonder...
I wonder sometimes whether mankind ever figures out all these things or if there will always happen plenty of 'miracles' on earth.
7 is the standard since the "wardrobe malfunction" wasn't it 2 in the past?
 
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longearedfriend

revival of a 2007 thread

to answer the question simply

i'd say yes
 

Wiggs Dannyboy

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Maybe 20 years back, when walking home at night, there was an old street light which used to go on and off some times. Strange but not bizarre, it used to go off regularly when I walked underneath and turned on again when a was a few meters away again. But that night it got a bit weird when I walked underneath, deep in my thoughts, when it didn't turn on again and then the next street light went off when I stepped underneath and also the one after that. That third one took me out of contemplation and, approaching the fourth light, I tried to focus my mind on that one to make it go off but it didn't. Neither did the following nor the ones after that... a few hundred meters later I lost interest and sunk back into my thoughts when the one overhead turned off again. I got a bit spooked and didn't fell back into deep thoughts and got home with all the lights staying on. The day after (maybe two) I saw that they had changed the bulbs of those four light (they were orange sodium-vapour before and the newer white mercury ones afterwards); so they have been broken and were not just flickering due old age...
Was it just mere coincidence or had it something to do with me stepping underneath AND being a bit lost in deep thoughts? At least, I don't feel like having supernatural abilities or I could repeat that trick. Or maybe it only worked on those old sodium-vapour bulbs?

I had the same observation about street lights turning off/on when I would be in their vicinity. I even wondered the same thing as you....was I affecting the light in some strange way?

This was a couple of decades ago, so I don't remember the exact place I found the answer, but basically the reason these street lights were turning off and then back on was because they were getting hit with the light from a car's headlights. Street lights have light sensors that tell them to turn off when daylight comes in the mornings, and it turns out that the light from a car's headlights is strong enough to make the light sensor trip to the off position. It trips back on a few seconds after the headlights go away.

This new info answered a perplexing question I had about my reality, and when I heard it for the first time I had quite a good laugh. I also tested this new info as well, and every time I noticed it happening there was a car shining its headlights toward the street light.

So....sorry to say...you aren't a new age wizard! :)
 

Only Ornamental

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This was a couple of decades ago, so I don't remember the exact place I found the answer, but basically the reason these street lights were turning off and then back on was because they were getting hit with the light from a car's headlights. Street lights have light sensors that tell them to turn off when daylight comes in the mornings, and it turns out that the light from a car's headlights is strong enough to make the light sensor trip to the off position. It trips back on a few seconds after the headlights go away.../ /...So....sorry to say...you aren't a new age wizard!
Weeellll....
Fist: That street was/is a pedestrial zone (where the first three lights were)
Second: There were no cars around (was well past midnight)
Third: Our streetlights never had and still don't have those sensors. They go on in the evening and turn out in the morning by timer.

Maybe another try? :D
 

Wiggs Dannyboy

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Oh well...

Must be a different reason. If I was you I'd give your town's highway department a phone call and ask them. They've probably received a bunch of calls about the same thing.

Or.....................................you just might be a magical fellow.
 
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SooperSmurph

Street lamps flash off over me all the time, I thought this was uncommon but not unheard of?
 
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gloryoskie

Gandhi, Sister Teresa, Einstein, Hawking, Lincoln, etc.

Supernatural?

No.

But it is a fun topic, like reading Chariots of the Gods.

Or watching F@x News, lol.
 

Only Ornamental

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Cooool, there's even a name for that phenomenon!

Obviously, there usually is a scientific explanation for such things, like only seeing a bulb go off and on when close (especially when in deep thoughts and tired).
I thought quite a bit about it and there are several effects possible:
- Incandescent lights loose tungsten atoms from the filament increasing its electrical resistance and at one point a small spike in the alternating current burns it: So only effects on the current trigger a burning, often when switching the light on and then, the bulb is done and has to be replaced. Interference with the current would have to be precisely at the moment of the spike and in the same direction (addition to a sub-lethal spike); random effects are unlikely to succeed.
- In contrary, discharge lamps approach slowly a point of partial return where they start to flicker and go off and on again and often die when being on for some time.
- Street lights often have the same age (all or half in one street are usually changed at once) and die with a Gaussian distribution; when there is one bulb flickering, those close by are likely to be old too and will fail sooner than later. And thy will fail several times before their ultimate death (one has several chances to 'make' it go off).
- Discharge lights are cold starters; they need a few seconds to re-ignite. The time they use to go on again may, depending on model, surrounding temperature and age, be just what it takes to walk by slowly.
- Now, old discharge lights are in a labile equilibrium where the position of some thousand atoms may cause the light to go off and then only a new ignition current can (at the beginning) re-light the bulb by evaporating atoms condensed out of range of the discharge ark. Because the atoms emitting light aren't fixed in a metallic filament but are in a freely moving gaseous state, they react not only to deviations in electric current but also to physical movement (vibrations) and temperature (conductive and radiated energy transfer). Any sort of even random interference may trigger the bulb to fail.
- Logically (to my mind at least), it is easier to interfere with an old discharge light than an incandescent one as one can do it several times with the former and one might use different chaotic mechanisms to do so.
- Our body interferes with the surrounding in many different manners: We have an electro-magnetic field (and that's not mainly the 'electrical charges' in our brains), we have gravity, we cause vibrations by walking and talking, and we emit heat (infra-red light). All of these effects can rather easily be measured even if the effect on the environment are really small.
The approached street light will 'feel' your gravity, might (due to the lever action) experience a slight movement due to vibrations and it heats up and 'sees' our emitted heat. Also, the electric cables to the light interact with your electro-magnetic field (it's not only you who 'suffers' from electrosmog from wires but it goes also the other way round; pure physical laws of interaction). All these effects seem negligible but they might add up (as said, random effects may suffice) to finally move a few hundred atoms into one or the other direction (by just a few nanometres?) and make the bulb fail.

The fact that 4 bulbs went off (obviously, old bulbs get replaced at one point especially when they make up maybe 1/4 of the lights in that street) might be simple coincidence like winning a lottery...

Those who search will always find an answer. Ask an esoteric person and you get a similar answer, simply with elves and auras instead of physically measurable parameters involved :D .
 
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SooperSmurph

About the bulb life thing, wikipedia goes on to say...
Wikipedia said:
This, it was suggested, is sufficient to explain the SLI effect; what happens is that the witness just happens to be passing such a lamp during its death-throes, and is led by the synchronicity to imagine that he is somehow responsible. But as the testimony shows, even if we allow the coincidence in place and time, this effect could account for only a small fraction of the reported cases. For one thing, other types of lamp are involved besides sodium lamps. Then again, only a small number of reports describe anything like an SL going off, then on, then off again. And what about when a witness extinguishes a whole batch of SLs: are we to conclude that the whole batch was purchased together, and so shared the same life-span, and such was the perfection of their manufacture, that they all reached their death-point simultaneously? Yet even if we allow that, there is still the fact that some SLIders extinguish a row of SLs in sequence, each one going out as the witnesses nears it: it is asking too much to suppose that a series of lamps would have been arranged in order of their life-span.
I set off one particular street lamp for years back in Cali, you'd think the bulb would have been replaced at some point if that were the case, tested and confirmed it with my friends, only when I approached, not them, and it worked when the lamp was passed in a car, but not if I drove too quickly.

Each night, walking home from work when I was a cook at Denny's, I passed this light, so I had around 2 years of this light going off on me, and the next night it would be lit, waiting for me to pass.

There was another on a highway between Billings MT and Ballantine, every night driving to pick up the wife at work, either two lamps before or two lamps after the junction between interstate 94 and interstate 90, on the west bound side of the road.
 

Gelado`

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This is a deep topic and I have both firsthand and anecdotal experience with the supernatural. I don't feel like sharing now, but our understanding of the world and universe is still very young. Whether or not you believe there is more doesn't really matter. There is more. ;)
 

Only Ornamental

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As an agnostic, I tend not to believe (either I know or I don't... or I suppose/speculate) but I try to be open for whatever there may be (which is hard sometimes) and accept it when it seems 'real' (proven, repeatable, witnessed etc.) even if scientifically unexplainable for the moment. Then I know it as a current truth/fact/reality (which may and does change all the times even in a scientific environment).
As a researcher I sure ask myself 'why' and 'how' and when I don't find an answer but the 'thing' is of any help in my life, I gladly accept it and try to make the best out of it ;) . Where is the point in ignoring everything we have no clue on how it works (then I'd be unemployed)? True, I haven't figured out yet how to use bulbs going out on me to my advantage LoL. Well, I do have the subjective impression that bulbs and especially computers* I like tend to live longer than those I don't... Either I like only the ones with known long lives or I should start being nice to everything by principle :D .
* I just remember that I had a laptop which crashed reliably when being rude to it (of course in my thoughts, not my manipulations; like thinking 'You damn thing open the program faster') and it didn't especially when it was short before giving up completely (e.g. every second booting crashed) when being nice to it (pet it for example :) ). Had a few witnesses for that and it made us principally laugh... until it crashed all the same a week before the exam with my whole diploma work on it *grrr*.
 

Gelado`

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Be nice to your computer! People who don't care for their stuff lose or damage it. People who are careful and show their stuff love can preserve it for a lifetime...
 

mrcreosote

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I once had a girlfriend who would speak in tongues while having wild sex.

I called her a Coital Pentecostal.
 

Only Ornamental

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WTF did you do to her? Gagging and flogging? ROFL!
(P.S. Honestly, I don't want to know that!)
 

Only Ornamental

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Back to topic:
- What's about seeing auras? There are a whole bunch of books about that but AFAIK nothing scientifically proven (how could one do such a test anyway?).
- And there's the thing with prophecies like those from Nostradamus... That's documented though likely not scientifically validated (didn't look that up).
 
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