IF WE COULD LEGALLY GROW IN THE UK AND NORTHERN IRELAND?

[willyweed]

If we could legally grow in the uk and ni ,what do you think would be fair guide lines for the new law?
i will go first !
currently 9 plants non commercial ,i would be happy for this to be raised to 20 at varying sizes,
size of grow ? one room per person for themselves living in the house including loft area's
punishment for commercial growers increased ? this i a grey area ,but i for one would be happier knowing that any monies coming from this was not being used for organised crime,or funding terrorist's
stiffer penalties for being caught selling to children. yes
non commercial equipment, not being taken by the police
air scrubbing and electrical safety standard ,yes i would even scrub the air in the room i smoke to not be anti -social
that's my lot for now may add to the list later if i can think of anything more intresting.
what does everybody or anybody else think please ?
many thanks willyweed

 

[Harry Lime]

Restrictions on supply maybe, something like the age limit for alcohol but that's all. No one tells me what or how many cabbages I can grow, should be the same with weed. They should fuck off, get their noses outa my life and go find something important to do instead.

 

[buddymate]

No restrictions whatsoever,its a plant,nature places no limits on plants.

 

[willyweed]

nowhere in the civilised world has no restrictions,not even cali.so you are asking for something that does not exist .please try to stick to what i have asked ! anything else is unrealistic !

 

[SupaFunk]

I would say that only plants in the flowering stage should count towards any permitted number. You could then have a nice selection of Mom's and keep popping beans.

 

[willyweed]

i like that idea supafunk,makes perfect sense ,if it were to become legal ,i would imagine we would get clone clubs ect like in california

 

[SupaFunk]

Yes, you're probably right on the clone clubs. It's just some prefer getting a few packs in and popping beans. Which usually means having in excess of 30 plants to find 1 or 2 keepers. That's where this would be very useful.

 

[Mr.Gr33n]

we can only dream currently,

but i do like the idea, only flowering plants count

 

[willyweed]

Restrictions on supply maybe, something like the age limit for alcohol but that's all. No one tells me what or how many cabbages I can grow, should be the same with weed. They should fuck off, get their noses outa my life and go find something important to do instead.

we may not have quota's for cabbages in this country ,but they do in other country's !
i sort of agree with what you are saying,but also understand from other country's policies that it could never work like this.so what i am trying to find is a system which most agree, may give us a cat in hell's chance of ever getting a law in place,a bit like california, with certain realistic restrictions. what you are saying will never happen,so i was looking for a compromise fair to all ,within reason !

 

[G-MAN-420]

nowhere in the civilised world has no restrictions,not even cali.

obviously you've never been to morroco, india or columbia! or are they not part of the "civilized" world we live in? try tell them they should have a plant count and they will laugh in your face...buddymate is right nature should have no restrictions!

 

[FirstTracks]

g-Man: If I'm reading right, OP is talking about growing legally and only bribing the government publicly advertised fees,if anything. Not some under the table deal to whatever general or politician runs the areas. I don't think you've been to any of these places either if you believe its completely legal in any of them.

....and now I step back out

 

[G-MAN-420]

i personally think if the uk ever does lagalize cannabis it will be for the worst...this is the uk ffs the government tax the shit outta everything! they will probably make it harder for personal growers than it is now as we would be taking something away from the government...money! they would make sure only they can produce it so they can profit from it.

and as for funding criminals and terrorist i gotta laugh! the only criminal entity i know of growing on an industrial scale is the chinese/vietnamese and when u ever seen a gang of chinese running around the streets of london causing mayhem mugging people or cutting off british soldiers heads? as for terrorists their funding doesn't come from growing cannabis in the uk it comes from heroin which isnt grown in the uk.

they will tax us for consuming a medicinal plant that should be free to grow wherever it can. not only that but our taxes would go the the government so they can fuck this country over even more! we'll be paying even more to house and feed the foreign leeches that are already here so they can moan about how bad our country and people are!

so i for one hope they don't legalize it, decriminalize it maybe.

thats my rant over haha have a good day peeps.

 

[G-MAN-420]

g-Man: If I'm reading right, OP is talking about growing legally and only bribing the government publicly advertised fees,if anything. Not some under the table deal to whatever general or politician runs the areas. I don't think you've been to any of these places either if you believe its completely legal in any of them.

....and now I step back out

where in my post did i say it was legal in those countries? i was referring to his comment about no where in the world has no restrictions...and no i havent been to india or columbia but morroco yes.

 

[willyweed]

i did say nowhere in the civilized world,you implied that the country's you mentioned,morroco, india or columbia ,have no restriction which is simply not true .they may grow large scale ,but it is still against the law! google it if you are not sure!
i too believe that to legalise without restrictions would not work and would be bad for the country,which is also why most of the rest of the world has not done this either!
which is why i started this thread,i accept to legalise without restrictions would not work!
so what restrictions would be fair?
also please do not jump all over other people's post's in this thread,all it does is discourages people from posting in here in the future and i for 1 do not want that to happen in this thread!
i would however welcome as much constructive input as possible into this thread,with discussion being the main objective please?


g-man 420 this link clearly says it is illegal to grow in morocco :
http://geopium.org/276/morocco-said-to-produce-nearly-half-of-the-worlds-hashish-supply

 

[willyweed]

we can only dream currently,

but i do like the idea, only flowering plants count

me too ,we have mr superfunk to thank for this piece of legislation when we can get this to parliament to draw up the draught !

 

[G-MAN-420]

i wasnt jumping all over people posts i was expressing my opinion because you asked for it, thats why u started this thread isnt it?

yes i know its still illegal in those countries i mentioned, i dont need to google it thanks so dont patronize me. what i WAS implying is that them countries dont give a fuck what their government says and we should be the same.

im not going to get into an argument about laws but obviously you dont care about the law as you grow cannabis. thats why i dont understand why you would be happy to let the government to tell you what you can and cant do. i personally will continue to grow whatever the legal situation of this plant is regardless of what some prick in parliment says.

 

[willyweed]

yes you will, and spend every day being paranoid every time the door knocks ,this is something i do not want
i respect 99% of the law and am trying to find a compromise to the other 1 % .my thread starts of by saying "if we could grow legally " your opinions indicate that you will not respect growing legally ,which is fine, now please move on and leave space for other's to discuss something that you will never respect,and thank you for your opinion

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

When I got a card in LA the paperwork differentiated between flowering and veg.

I was permitted 12 plants flowering and something like 24 in veg at any one time if I recall. I thought that was pretty reasonable but I think you can apply tor greater plant counts depending on your situation.

24 in veg would allow for a reasonable number to select from if you had a perpetual flowering and germination schedule.

I can't tell you how refreshing it felt.

Peace

 

[Dank Demon]

Any amount of plants.
Government funding towards equipment for those who want to grow but cannot afford to.
All unused large premises to be converted into grow rooms at a high cost by myself lol.
Anyone showing skills at growing to become well paid bosses of dispensaries across the UK and NI.
All nutrients to be sold at heavily discounted prices.
No selling to children period.

 

[willyweed]

When I got a card in LA the paperwork differentiated between flowering and veg.

I was permitted 12 plants flowering and something like 24 in veg at any one time if I recall. I thought that was pretty reasonable but I think you can apply tor greater plant counts depending on your situation.

24 in veg would allow for a reasonable number to select from if you had a perpetual flowering and germination schedule.

I can't tell you how refreshing it felt

it is within our grasp imo
can only dream of how that must of felt !
what we must steer away from imo,is people growing house's full of it, i am not totally sure of how people growing commercially would work into the system,perhaps a licence of some sort and at the end of the day pay some tax!( god forbid)
but if it is going to work,some of the above will have to be sorted first!
perhaps we should limit one person to 2000w flower only