I'm also harvesting excellent crops using a Veg+Bloom Tap/MOAB "two part". Soon as I burn off these pails o MOAB I'll be sourcing a more economical 0-52-32 (or similar analysis) MKP/MAP product.
Have pulled 2lb/1kw in 50/50 coco/perlite cloth pots over my last two cycles with my best genetics in my most dialed spaces, running 10 weeks and watering nearly every day. These are sealed bloom rooms with bare hanging bulbs, split unit ACs, controlled tapering humidity and constant daytime CO2 injection at 1500-2000 ppm.
Currently am experimenting side by side with constant V+B/MOAB feeds in weeks 1, 5-8 vs. constant V+B feed with MOAB smashes on days 15, 22, 29, 36, 43 & 50, using 1 g/gal MOAB and reducing V+B accordingly.
Another harvest and I'll have a dialed comprehensive formula across two gardens with two different well water profiles running six different strains.
Potassium silicate for pH up, phosphoric acid for pH down. Having been a slave to billions o bottles for too many years to count, I have been blown away by these results. Four total containers in rotation (six technically counting my Forbid & Eagle20 bottles for preventative veg sprays) couldn't make me a happier man.
If I can pull two more 2+ harvests with this consistency, I'll probably be burning off all the bottles at the other two grows, running RO formula in coco/perlite at one spot and the Dirty in a peat mix at the other, simplifying my shelves everywhere. What could be better?
It is funny how many newer accounts / low post members are in this thread.
(Being a newer product and all. Not to mention in this particular industry people follow trends after they see great runs by vets using such & such brand / equipment.)
I only find it funny because there are better known lines with just as good if not better quality of "finished" product and yet those particular threads don't seem to get anywhere near the same activity with same said members.
The ingredients are simply what attracts me back to this line, As well as being a one part.
Heavy 16 follows suit. ( If you are in active hydro I say take a closer look at your nutrient profile.)
I guess it was hopeful thinking to come back to this thread long after Cyat posted his experience (running a CUSTOM formula made specific for his water....gtfo) and hoped the owners would have worked out the problems.
We all know this thread is visited as well as actively posted in by the owner of V&G.
No hate.
Disappointed with the antics and tactics.
Think of the money you miss by not fixing the problem.
These type of posts are not just isolated to this board.
Or ignore it and keep posting pictures.
Cool.
At least support ICmag and donate or become a sponsor.
I found where to get the same salts.... in bulk.
+ a p/k booster with a particular PGR will give that same or more depending on dosing "frost/snow/Trich" coverage everybody is excited about.
CHEAP.
TR
good thing I haven't held my breath.
I do have to say RicoT that when this first came out (V&B ) it was the best 1 part i ever tried & produced some of the biggest & best tasting buds i ever produced !!! but somewhere along the way he changed manufacturers of some of his ingredients ... like pottasium .... & it changed the way it mixed & fed the plants .... for me anyways . but it WAS a really good nutrient at 1 time . I wish He'd go back to the original formula !!! why fix what ain't broken
Yeah I hear what your saying about some of the grows & bud shots here i just don't let it get to me . i can see whos promoting the V&B & whos for real , i just ignore most of it . ...... but i do have to give some credit to Chris & his original formula though .... it really did work very well ! but .... shit happens
I'm sure it's not worth much to many of you but that is my $.02. Much love!No conspiracy or "paranoid scheme" at all. It's flat out marketing through the biggest resource any of us have to draw from(these forums) in what's an illegal hobby for most.
My only thing is, it would be ethical, as it is for breeders and other vendors here, to be honest with who you are, and your affiliation with the company.
And I don't doubt you'll do anything less than continue posting here, as it would go against the entire objective of this marketing scheme to disappear with your tail between your legs in defeat, or exposure. You'd then lose not only the little business you have, by leading them to this puddle of gold(your bud pics "using only v&b") that doesn't exist, but any future hopefuls too.
With this all finally brought to light I digress, and for your sake, this will get buried in the 100 pages, and no new potential customers of your's will see it.
Yep.
the very man behind the V+B has confirmed these screen names and was none the happier to explain "yeah, those are my boys" when learning i was in their same town.
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