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U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise

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gaiusmarius

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this thread is moving well beyond the bounds it started under. i really think the Syrian war is not really connected to ed snowden or his leaks.

as everyone knows we have always done our best to keep the forum free from divisive stuff like politics and religion, whether you think that is right or wrong, those are the rules. now in the interest of the importance of the Snowden leaks and the way it connects with internet freedom and privacy in general, a couple of mods argued to make an exception for this thread. but if it's gonna be used to post anything that will get binned normally, it's being abused.

maybe times have changed and we can convince the powers that be that a current events section would be entertaining, but till such a time i ask for some restraint in keeping with the subject of this thread. so we can keep this important topic going on topic!
 

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I think this may be more on topic.It does not mention snowden specificly though.


Obama: surveillance safeguards worked, but must be improved


(Reuters) - Safeguards to ensure that U.S. surveillance measures are not abused have worked but must be improved as technology advances, President Barack Obama said in an interview with CNN that aired on Friday.

The Obama administration has been on the defensive since former U.S. contractor Edward Snowden revealed information on the sweep of secret government surveillance measures.

The president has made a point of saying the programs were not spying on Americans. But documents released this week showed the National Security Agency may have unintentionally collected as many as 56,000 emails of Americans per year between 2008 and 2011. A secret U.S. court subsequently said the program may have violated U.S. law.

The revelations led to new questions about operations by the eavesdropping NSA and its oversight by the secret U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC).

Obama said the discovery of the mistake and the court's demand that safeguards be improved showed the system of oversight had functioned appropriately.

"All these safeguards, checks, audits, oversight worked," he said in the interview on CNN's "New Day" program.

But the president acknowledged, as he has before, that more could be done to increase the public's confidence in the programs.

"There are legitimate concerns that people have that technology is moving so quick that, you know, at some point, does the technology outpace the laws that are in place and the protections that are in place?" he said.

"Do some of these systems end up being like a loaded gun out there that somebody at some future point could abuse?" he added.

Obama said he was confident the NSA was not abusing its powers.

"What I recognize is that we're going to have to continue to improve the safeguards and, as technology moves forward, that means that we may be able to build technologies that give people more assurance, and we do have to do a better job of giving people confidence in how these programs work," he said.
 

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California considers “enhancing” drivers licenses with radio tracking beacons

California’s legislature is considering a bill to authorize adding radio tracking beacons to drivers licenses and state non-driver ID cards.

Each such card would broadcast a unique tracking number which could legally be intercepted by anyone with a suitable radio transceiver within range, and which would be linked to a national DHS database of drivers license, state ID card, and citizenship information.

The tracking beacons are designed to allow the tracking numbers on ID cards carried by travelers in motor vehicles to be read from outside their vehicles as they approach or pass through checkpoints.

Independent academic studies of actual ID cards issued by other states, using the same standards proposed for use in California, have found that they can sometimes be read from more than 50 yards away.

S.B. 397 has already been approved by the California Senate, and is now under consideration in the Assembly. Because it has been amended by the Assembly, it will need to be reconsidered by the Senate (to decide whether to accept the Assembly amendments) if and when it is approved by the Assembly.

To date, S.B. 397 has been largely unopposed in the California legislature, and it is likely to be approved unless legislators start hearing a groundswell of opposition from their constituents.

What excuse is being offered for this scheme? And what’s its real purpose?

Not surprisingly, the impetus for this proposal comes not from California but from the Feds (and, of course, their partners and profiteers in dataveillance).

As part of the so-called “Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative” (which we have objected to as uncontitutional and in violation of U.S. obligations as a party to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights), the Department of State and the Deaprtment of Homeland Security promulgated regulations in 2006 (air and sea travel) and 2007 (land travel) requiring U.S. citizens to show passports to cross the U.S. border to or form Canada or Mexico — unless they had a new type of “Enhanced Drivers License” (EDL) or “enhanced” non-driver state ID card with a long-range RFID tracking transeiver.

EDLs would be offered by states, in cooperation with DHS, as an added-cost alternative to a regular drivers license that could also be used as a border crosssing card.

The idea was that an EDL would be cheaper than a U.S. passport, and that the price differential would motivate Canadian and Mexican border states to collaborate with DHS in issuing these RFID cards and motivate frequent border crossers to acquiesce in their use for tracking their movements.

New York began issuing EDLs in 2007, and DHS began deploying RFID readers at border crossings in 2008. The largest other Canadian border states — Michigan and Washington — have since followed suit, along with Vermont (where Montreal is the nearest large city for most of the state).

But none of the U.S. states bordering Mexico has agreed to issue EDLs — yet.

Neither Califonia legislators nor Califonia residents should be distracted by the vaunted “convenience” of an EDL that can be used both for driving (and/or other state purposes) and crossing the border.

As a U.S. citizen, you have the right to leave the country, and to return. That right does not depend on your paying a fee or applying for, or receiving, any government credentials or permission.

What really distinguishes an EDL are the ways it can function as a surveillance device:

Before any state can issue an EDL, it must collect and forward to the DHS, for inclusion in a national database, the card holder’s personal details including their photograph. And each EDL broadcasts a unique RFID chip number that serves as a pointer to the record about the cardholder in this database.

So while an EDL looks like a “state” ID, it is fundamentally a national ID card — something Americans have consistently (and rightly) opposed — and an enabler of tracking and logging of cardholders’ movements.

Logs of citizens’ border crossings and movements through non-border checkpoints are obviously of interest to the Feds and their state and local law enforcement partners, especially in conjunction with logs of vehicle movements obtained from automated license-plate readers.

Cops don’t need to ask, “Can I see some ID?” when, from outside your vehicle, they can obtain the EDL chip number and corresponding lifetime DHS travel history of every occupant of the vehicle.

And as more people carry EDLs, how soon will not broadcasting your ID number be deemed sufficiently suspicious to justify detention, search, or interrogation?

Drive-by EDL surveillance won’t be lmited to the government. No current state or Federal law places any restrictions on private reading of RFID chips, including reading of the unique ID numbers on EDLs and use or sale of these records. What business wouldn’t want to be able to identify regular customers as soon as they drive into the parking lot? If you show your EDL as proof of age to buy alcohol, the liquor store can legally scan your EDL, read the RFID chip number, and sell this information to a data aggregator who compiles a lookup table of chip numbers, corresponding name, age, and address information, and transaction and location history.

Even without access to either government (DHS and state) or commercial look-up tables linking the unencryped unique chip ID numbers to additional personal information, anyone who gets close enough to you to read the chip in your EDL can use it to track you wherever you go, even form outside your vehicle, as long as you are carrying your EDL unshielded. This functionality will be especially useful to stalkers and paparazzi, among others.

You can keep an EDL in a foil sleeve to make it harder to read at a distance, but in practice people have to show their drivers licenses often enough that few will bother. A passport, on the other hand, has an RFID chip with a read range at least an order of magnitude, perhaps two, smaller than that of an EDL. And since a passport is less often used for anything other than crossing borders, it’s less of a nuisance to keep it shielded at other times than to always keep your drivers license shielded.

Long-range radio tracking and a national ID database are surveillance, not convenience features, entirely unnecessary for a “border crossing” credentiaL These are features, not bugs, of the EDL scheme. And they deserve a resounding “No” from California’s legislature and citizenry.
 

LiLWaynE

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not sure if anybody clicked that link i posted a page or two back to the B.o.B. rap song called "MISSING"....... he is pretty much the first well known (worldwide) American musician to step up and make a song about the governments shady spying/games which came to him as a result of what is going on with the whole NSA situation....

we need more public figures to stand out and make a stance on this matter.... the NSA is entirely rogue and must be stopped. I commend b.o.b. for stepping out and fearlessly taking a shot at the gov.... he even acknowledges in the song that he fears he may come up missing [for releasing the song]...

remember how much protest music was coming out during the Vietnam war?!?!? that music is what made a HUGE difference within the American public and prompted many to finally step up and do what was required to help end the Vietnam war and eliminate Nixon..... Obama is to Nixon as Lyndon Johnson was to Bush.... Obama COULD have taken things in a different direction but chose not to... the jacked up thing is what Nixon was involved in with the watergate situation was NOTHING compared to this current NSA bullshit spying/lying situation that Obama is dealing with here and it seems that a great majority of America could give 2 fucking shits about it.....


......far too many hopeless, lifeless, simpletons make up this country

with only 20% of america not being connected to the internet, you would think the other 80% would be just as outraged as we all are... BUT THEY ARE FUCKING NOT!!!!!


WTF?!?!?
 

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bentom187

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Hello all,

Just a quick thought..Farraday cage....just wrap it...and I really hate to say this but, wrap it in aluminum foil..low signal radio waves cant penetrate a Farraday cage.

Try it...wrap your cell phone in foil and try and call it or text...see if you can get it. I live about500 yards as a crow flies to a cell tower and it works on my phone.

minds_I

Awesome tip, it emp proofs your stored emergency goods ,if you put them in a trash can as well.
 

1TWISTEDTRUCKER

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Hello all,

Just a quick thought..Farraday cage....just wrap it...and I really hate to say this but, wrap it in aluminum foil..low signal radio waves cant penetrate a Farraday cage.

Try it...wrap your cell phone in foil and try and call it or text...see if you can get it. I live about500 yards as a crow flies to a cell tower and it works on my phone.

minds_I

Its been foretold,,,, but Holy SHIT,,, this is PURE EVIL!!!!
there was a day when The powers that BE would NEVER have uttered a thought like this in public, for fear of impeachment, or worse.

It is a sign that they firmly believe that WE the Sheeple, have been completely brainwashed, at least enough to give them cover any way.

I fear that This once GR8 Nation has reached THE tipping point.
More Sheeple, than Patriot Citizens.

Just give um a check, and they will give us their freedom, and liberties.

Peace; 1TT
 

Jericho Mile

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not sure if anybody clicked that link i posted a page or two back to the B.o.B. rap song called "MISSING"....... he is pretty much the first well known (worldwide) American musician to step up and make a song about the governments shady spying/games which came to him as a result of what is going on with the whole NSA situation....

we need more public figures to stand out and make a stance on this matter.... the NSA is entirely rogue and must be stopped. I commend b.o.b. for stepping out and fearlessly taking a shot at the gov.... he even acknowledges in the song that he fears he may come up missing [for releasing the song]...

remember how much protest music was coming out during the Vietnam war?!?!? that music is what made a HUGE difference within the American public and prompted many to finally step up and do what was required to help end the Vietnam war and eliminate Nixon..... Obama is to Nixon as Lyndon Johnson was to Bush.... Obama COULD have taken things in a different direction but chose not to... the jacked up thing is what Nixon was involved in with the watergate situation was NOTHING compared to this current NSA bullshit spying/lying situation that Obama is dealing with here and it seems that a great majority of America could give 2 fucking shits about it.....


......far too many hopeless, lifeless, simpletons make up this country

with only 20% of america not being connected to the internet, you would think the other 80% would be just as outraged as we all are... BUT THEY ARE FUCKING NOT!!!!!


WTF?!?!?

You're tripping...hard.
 

PoopyTeaBags

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On RT news Russian Troops are marching into Syria and Russian Destroyers are positioning themselves near the naval base in Tartus..

Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

Sorry to Spoil the Party... Putin isn't a sell out..


Putin is a Freemason, part of the secret socities. sorry to say but this whole event is a sham for world domination..

If you control both sides of the argument u always win the fight. Putin is just playin his part and just like the US will be glad to go into ww3 to finish the great work. This is just a show with devastating consequences.

This has been planned for a while. Anyone remember space odyssey? Who do we start ww3 with? o shit the russians... right.

Any world leader that is a mason or in a secret society (which is all of them) are part of this plan. They just have to fool/convince the mob(us) that it happened for some other reasons then it being planned and carried out because a one world government is rejected by 90% of the mob(population).


Plan has been in works for a long while now.
 

trichrider

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http://news.msn.com/us/nypds-massive-mosque-spying-operations-revealed


NYPD's massive mosque spying operations revealed

Secretly designating a mosque as a terrorist organization allows New York police to record sermons and spy on imams without evidence of criminal wrongdoing.


NEW YORK — The New York Police Department has secretly labeled entire mosques as terrorism organizations, a designation that allows police to use informants to record sermons and spy on imams, often without specific evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

Designating an entire mosque as a terrorism enterprise means that anyone who attends prayer services there is a potential subject of an investigation and fair game for surveillance.

Since the 9/11 attacks, the NYPD has opened at least a dozen "terrorism enterprise investigations" into mosques, according to interviews and confidential police documents. The TEI, as it is known, is a police tool intended to help investigate terrorist cells and the like.

Many TEIs stretch for years, allowing surveillance to continue even though the NYPD has never criminally charged a mosque or Islamic organization with operating as a terrorism enterprise.

The documents show in detail how, in its hunt for terrorists, the NYPD investigated countless innocent New York Muslims and put information about them in secret police files. As a tactic, opening an enterprise investigation on a mosque is so potentially invasive that while the NYPD conducted at least a dozen, the FBI never did one, according to interviews with federal law enforcement officials.

The strategy has allowed the NYPD to send undercover officers into mosques and attempt to plant informants on the boards of mosques and at least one prominent Arab-American group in Brooklyn, whose executive director has worked with city officials, including Bill de Blasio, a front-runner for mayor.

The revelations about the NYPD's massive spying operations are in documents recently obtained by The Associated Press and part of a new book, "Enemies Within: Inside the NYPD's Secret Spying Unit and bin Laden's Final Plot Against America." The book, by AP reporters Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman, is based on hundreds of previously unpublished police files and interviews with current and former NYPD, CIA and FBI officials.


"I have never felt free in the United States. The documents tell me I am right," Zein Rimawi, a Bay Ridge mosque leader.

The disclosures come as the NYPD is fighting off lawsuits accusing it of engaging in racial profiling while combating crime. Earlier this month, a judge ruled that the department's use of the stop-and-frisk tactic was unconstitutional.

The American Civil Liberties Union and two other groups have sued, saying the Muslim spying programs are unconstitutional and make Muslims afraid to practice their faith without police scrutiny.

Both Mayor Mike Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly have denied those accusations. They say police do not unfairly target people; they only follow leads.

"As a matter of department policy, undercover officers and confidential informants do not enter a mosque unless they are following up on a lead," Kelly wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal. "We have a responsibility to protect New Yorkers from violent crime or another terrorist attack — and we uphold the law in doing so."

An NYPD spokesman declined to comment.

POLICE TRY TO INFILTRATE LEADERSHIP

The NYPD did not limit its operations to collecting information on those who attended the mosques or led prayers. The department sought also to put people on the boards of New York's Islamic institutions to fill intelligence gaps.

One confidential NYPD document shows police wanted to put informants in leadership positions at mosques and other organizations, including the Arab American Association of New York in Brooklyn, a secular social-service organization.

Related: Election candidate mistakes Islam for a country

Linda Sarsour, the executive director, said her group helps new immigrants adjust to life in the US. It was not clear whether the department was successful in its plans.

The document, which appears to have been created around 2009, was prepared for Kelly and distributed to the NYPD's debriefing unit, which helped identify possible informants.

Around that time, Kelly was handing out medals to the Arab American Association's soccer team, Brooklyn United, smiling and congratulating its players for winning the NYPD's soccer league.

Sarsour, a Muslim who has met with Kelly many times, said she felt betrayed.

"It creates mistrust in our organizations," said Sarsour, who was born and raised in Brooklyn. "It makes one wonder and question who is sitting on the boards of the institutions where we work and pray."

FEDERAL JUDGE REWRITES RULES

Before the NYPD could target mosques as terrorist groups, it had to persuade a federal judge to rewrite rules governing how police can monitor speech protected by the First Amendment.

The rules stemmed from a 1971 lawsuit, dubbed the Handschu case after lead plaintiff Barbara Handschu, over how the NYPD spied on protesters and liberals during the Vietnam War era.

David Cohen, a former CIA executive who became NYPD's deputy commissioner for intelligence in 2002, said the old rules didn't apply to fighting against terrorism.

Cohen told the judge that mosques could be used "to shield the work of terrorists from law enforcement scrutiny by taking advantage of restrictions on the investigation of First Amendment activity."

NYPD lawyers proposed a new tactic, the TEI, that allowed officers to monitor political or religious speech whenever the "facts or circumstances reasonably indicate" that groups of two or more people were involved in plotting terrorism or other violent crime.

The judge rewrote the Handschu rules in 2003. In the first eight months under the new rules, the NYPD's Intelligence Division opened at least 15 secret terrorism enterprise investigations, documents show. At least 10 targeted mosques.

Doing so allowed police, in effect, to treat anyone who attends prayer services as a potential suspect. Sermons, ordinarily protected by the First Amendment, could be monitored and recorded.

Among the mosques targeted as early as 2003 was the Islamic Society of Bay Ridge, in Brooklyn.

"I have never felt free in the United States. The documents tell me I am right," Zein Rimawi, one of the Bay Ridge mosque's leaders, said after reviewing an NYPD document describing his mosque as a terrorist enterprise.

Rimawi, 59, came to the US decades ago from Israel's West Bank.

"Ray Kelly, shame on him," he said. "I am American."

NECESSARY FOR CITY SAFETY?

The NYPD believed the tactics were necessary to keep the city safe, a view that sometimes put it at odds with the FBI.

In August 2003, Cohen asked the FBI to install eavesdropping equipment inside a Brooklyn mosque called Masjid al-Farooq, including its prayer room.

Al-Farooq had a long history of radical ties. Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind Egyptian sheik who was convicted of plotting to blow up New York City landmarks, once preached briefly at Al-Farooq. Invited preachers raged against Israel, the United States and the Bush administration's war on terror.

One of Cohen's informants said an imam from another mosque had delivered $30,000 to an al-Farooq leader, and the NYPD suspected the money was for terrorism.

But Amy Jo Lyons, the FBI assistant special agent in charge for counterterrorism, refused to bug the mosque. She said the federal law wouldn't permit it.

The NYPD made other arrangements. Cohen's informants began to carry recording devices into mosques under investigation. They hid microphones in wristwatches and the electronic key fobs used to unlock car doors.

Even under a TEI, a prosecutor and a judge would have to approve bugging a mosque. But the informant taping was legal because New York law allows any party to record a conversation, even without consent from the others. Like the Islamic Society of Bay Ridge, the NYPD never demonstrated in court that al-Farooq was a terrorist enterprise, but that didn't stop the police from spying on the mosques for years.

And under the new Handschu guidelines, no one outside the NYPD could question the secret practice.

Martin Stolar, one of the lawyers in the Handschu case, said it's clear the NYPD used enterprise investigations to justify open-ended surveillance. The NYPD should only tape conversations about building bombs or plotting attacks, he said.

"Every Muslim is a potential terrorist? It is completely unacceptable," he said. "It really tarnishes all of us and tarnishes our system of values."

YOUNG SPIRITUAL LEADER TARGETED

Al-Ansar Center, a windowless Sunni mosque, opened in Brooklyn several years ago, attracting young Arabs and South Asians. NYPD officers feared the mosque was a breeding ground for terrorists, so informants kept tabs on it.

One NYPD report noted that members were fixing up the basement, turning it into a gym.

"They also want to start jiujitsu classes," it said.

The NYPD was particularly alarmed about Mohammad Elshinawy, 26, an Islamic teacher at several New York mosques, including Al-Ansar. Elshinawy was a Salafist — a follower of a puritanical Islamic movement — whose father was an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center attack, according to NYPD documents.

The FBI also investigated whether Elshinawy recruited people to wage violent jihad overseas. But the two agencies investigated him very differently.

The FBI closed the case after many months without any charges. Federal investigators never infiltrated Al-Ansar.

"Nobody had any information the mosque was engaged in terrorism activities," a former federal law enforcement official recalled, speaking on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the investigation.

The NYPD wasn't convinced. A 2008 surveillance document described Elshinawy as "a young spiritual leader (who) lectures and gives speeches at dozens of venues" and noted, "He has orchestrated camping trips and paintball trips."

The NYPD deemed him a threat in part because "he is so highly regarded by so many young and impressionable individuals."

No part of Elshinawy's life was out of bounds. His mosque was the target of a TEI. The NYPD conducted surveillance at his wedding. An informant recorded the wedding and police videotaped everyone who came and went.

"We have nothing on the lucky bride at this time but hopefully will learn about her at the service," one lieutenant wrote.

Four years later, the NYPD was still watching Elshinawy without charging him. He is now a plaintiff in the ACLU lawsuit against the NYPD.

"These new NYPD spying disclosures confirm the experiences and worst fears of New York's Muslims," ACLU lawyer Hina Shamsi said. "From houses of worship to a wedding, there's no area of New York Muslim religious or personal life that the NYPD has not invaded through its bias-based surveillance policy."
 

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In Calif. district, students' Facebook posts are closely watched

Outside monitoring company identifies signs of trouble online before it can spill over into school life.


Students returning to class in one Southern California school district might want to think twice about what they post to Facebook, Twitter and other popular social-networking sites.

The Glendale Unified School District has hired an outside company to monitor and analyze the social media posts of 13,000 students at eight Glendale middle and high schools — on and off campus, according to local media reports....

more:

http://news.msn.com/us/in-calif-district-students-facebook-posts-are-closely-watched
 

trichrider

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Facebook: Governments demanded 38,000 user records in 6 months

WASHINGTON — Government agents in 74 countries demanded information on about 38,000 Facebook users in the first half of this year, with about half the orders coming from authorities in the United States, the company said Tuesday.

The social-networking giant is the latest technology company to release figures on how often governments seek information about its customers. Microsoft and Google have done the same.

As with the other companies, it's hard to discern much from Facebook's data, besides the fact that, as users around the globe flocked to the world's largest social network, police and intelligence agencies followed.

Facebook and Twitter have become organizing platforms for activists and, as such, have become targets for governments. During anti-government protests in Turkey in May and June, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan called social media "the worst menace to society."

Rumor: Facebook likes can hurt your credit score

At the time, Facebook denied it provided information about protest organizers to the Turkish government.

Data released Tuesday show authorities in Turkey submitted 96 requests covering 173 users. Facebook said it provided some information in about 45 of those cases, but there's no information on what was turned over and why.

"We fight many of these requests, pushing back when we find legal deficiencies and narrowing the scope of overly broad or vague requests," Colin Stretch, Facebook's general counsel company said in a blog post. "When we are required to comply with a particular request, we frequently share only basic user information, such as name."

Facebook spokeswoman Sarah Feinberg said the company stands by its assertions that it gave no information regarding the Turkey protests.

"The data included in the report related to Turkey is about child endangerment and emergency law enforcement requests," she said.

Facebook and other technology companies have been criticized for helping the National Security Agency secretly collect data on customers. Federal law gives government the authority to demand data without specific warrants, and while companies can fight requests in secret court hearings, it's an uphill battle.

Facebook turned over some data in response to about 60 percent of those requests.

It's not clear from the Facebook data how many of the roughly 26,000 government requests on 38,000 users were for law-enforcement purposes and how many were for intelligence gathering.

Technology and government officials have said criminal investigations are far more common than national security matters as a justification for demanding information from companies.

The numbers are imprecise because the federal government forbids companies from revealing how many times they've been ordered to turn over information about their customers. Facebook released only a range of figures for the United States.

The company said it planned to start releasing these figures regularly
 

trichrider

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BULK COLLECTION OF TELEPHONY METADATA
UNDER SECTION 215 OF THE USA PATRIOT ACT
This white paper explains the Government’s legal basis for an intelligence collection
program under which the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) obtains court orders directing
certain telecommunications service providers to produce telephony metadata in bulk. The bulk
metadata is stored, queried and analyzed by the National Security Agency (NSA) for
counterterrorism purposes. The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (“the FISC” or “the
Court”) authorizes this program under the “business records” provision of the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), 50 U.S.C. § 1861, enacted as section 215 of the USA
PATRIOT Act (Section 215). The Court first authorized the program in 2006, and it has since
been renewed thirty-four times under orders issued by fourteen different FISC judges. This
paper explains why the telephony metadata collection program, subject to the restrictions
imposed by the Court, is consistent with the Constitution and the standards set forth by Congress
in Section 215. Because aspects of this program remain classified, there are limits to what can
be said publicly about the facts underlying its legal authorization. This paper is an effort to
provide as much information as possible to the public concerning the legal authority for this
program, consistent with the need to protect national security, including intelligence sources and
methods. While this paper summarizes the legal basis for the program, it is not intended to be an
exhaustive analysis of the program or the legal arguments or authorities in support of it.

pdf. here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023439015
 

greenbeen

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and that's why I will never live in a country that watches over there people, if Canada ever did that I would leave the country, my security is important to me, but one never knows when your being watched...... good luck American's hope your battle gets won for the freedom of all people
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-DksxM8KrU

Hush now precious I'm here
Step away from the window, and go back to sleep
Lay your head down child,
I won't let the boogie man come.
Counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums

Must pay no mind to what other voices say
They don't care about you
Like I do....like I do.
Safe from pain, and truth, and choice
And other poison devils
They don't give a fuck about you
Like I do. Just stay with me...
Safe and ignorant
Go back to sleep...
Go BACK TO SLEEP!
 

Jericho Mile

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i am? thanks for the update.... simpleton

you should see all of the +rep messages i have from these thoughts... bunch of us must be trippin then

Well there are a bunch of fearing geniuses out there. It's not hard to get rep out of them..just keep baying the same old fearing songs.

Simpleton? nice...at least you didn't add the 'dick' part on this time
 
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