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Is Pot lawful in australia?

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don't they pull that stunt in new York or other states? once you take anything out of your pocket you have exposed it to the world to see then they charge you. PIGS.
 

b00m

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You try and pull something(legal rights etc) on Queensland cops whilst they are stopping and searching you in the street, you are going be taken back to the station and they will introduce you to the Yellow Pages phonebook and that shite is not a fun experience :nono:
 
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hard rain

yeah i'd not try the freeman stuff in court. specially as i don't comprehend the rules in court. what does interest me is stopping cops on the street from doing their whole "routine" search thing. this doesn't need to involve legal advise, it can be presented as a hypothetical story.

the reason this is particular interesting to me is because where i live, cops always ask to search you, they don't order it, same when they want your id, when on foot they ask, in a car they demand the driving license. makes you wonder if they are doing so because they actually don't have the right to force you to empty your pockets for their inspection when on foot, unless they have probable cause.
I think here the cops are allowed to stop you and ask questions (on the street) but that you don't have to answer if you don't want. Not 100% sure though.

I'd be interested to know what the law is regarding car searches. I have heard of cops pulling apart cars on the roadside (particularly around Nimbin). I don't think they put them back together either.
 

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I've been strip searched on the side of the highway in Queensland with 5 of my mates, dicks swinging in the breeze with hundreds of cars driving past whilst the cops pull our station wagon apart. Cops and the law in Qld really suck especially if they don't like the look of you :yoinks:
 

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I think here the cops are allowed to stop you and ask questions (on the street) but that you don't have to answer if you don't want. Not 100% sure though.

Not that long ago I was standing in the main st of the town I live in talking to a friend and a couple of young uniform cop come strutting past in a hurry to get somewhere and I made a quip to them as the pushed past me (go get em boys) a few moments later they were getting in my face wanting me to repeat what I said and asking me my name ,my reply to them went thus " Mate I dont have to tell you anything. Am I under arrest ?if not I suggest you take a step back and get out of my face!if you don't I,m heading strait to the police station and lodging a complaint about this and I'll also be putting in a complaint to the Ombudsman's office and see what they have got to say!" they backed of and left me alone ,now I don't now what made them back down so quickly but I think it was a combination of me knowing my right's and the fact that I'm old enough to be their grandfather and I just called their bluff ,if I got busted I would to keep my mouth shut, I wouldn't engage the cops in any way at all and employ the service's of the best solicitor I could afford! this advice came from Chris Murphy! personally I don't think that anything in this thread has any practical use for your average Joe getting busted, surly some of our more astute solicitors and barristers would be using what has been discussed in this thread if it had any bearing in the real world? and like bOOm I have had the charming experience of the meeting the QLD police ,I would imagine that you would get a very good look at the local yellow pages if you didn't co operate with them ..pick your fight carefully, fight the fight's worth fighting and know when to keep your mouth shut. Peace and puff's Rumble:tiphat:
 

isaih520

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Rumblefish a lawyer's primary and absolute loyalty is to the court. A defacto court. An unlawful treasonous court. not you.
If a lawyer stood up and said this court is a treasonous court and my client does not want to commit treason , he would be disbarred.If he did it repeatedly probably bankrupted or killed. Ask one.

Principles. Act on those. Not consequences.
I'm an average guy. It worked for me.
I had zero experience and no precedent to work from.
I was scared and I made alot of mistakes. but I was right and that is a powerful thing in a courtroom. Defacto or otherwise.
I have been beaten by police a number of times.
I'm yet to be beaten in court, though.
I look at police beatings as not much worse than a bad day on the football field, injurywise.
Suck it up. Then fuck them in court, after they've had their fun.
Had I got a lawyer for my situation ,2 years ago I'd likely be in prison now.

the country is being taken over by some nasty people. Our grandfathers war was in trenches facing machine guns.
Our duty is to reject the authority of foreign corporate government.
If I can do that and grow pot at the same time, I will.
I think we have the easier task.
 

isaih520

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If avarice inspires you, you literally own a share in the common wealth.
(men only)
As far as I've been able to ascertain we have the richest common wealth per capita in the world. Due to our resource base/low population. Which you and I actually own and is being stolen.

In attempting to value the worth of that commonwealth I found it was valued by O'Connor (or maybe O'connel) Whitlam's minister for primary industry, in the loans affair.
I haven't got the figures handy but at the time it was worth around 40 nice houses on the north shore of sydney per man.

That's what they're so busy stealing. and thats why we paid no income tax for a generation after federation .

there is a monstrous crime taking place under our noses. And the government sure isnt going to tell us to act.
We each must act like we own the bloody country, instead of slaves to foreigners conquering us.

And we can do that in many small ways. Certainly do it by refusing to be convicted for growing/selling pot.
 
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hard rain

Nope, wait.
something else that needs to be explained is these Knights of Malta aswell as being the hub from which the BAR association, extends throughout the protestest world, also monopolised western medicine.
Destroyed their competitors around 100 years ago.
And used their control of the courts, through their other arm, to license certain drugs aswell as prohibit others.

There is some circumstantial evidence that marijuana, which used to be an over the counter medicine, can cure cancer. And that cancer, which was almost unheard of prior to vaccination, may have been introduced intentionally.
Eradicating the cure would be a good idea if your intention was to quietly kill millions of protestants through cancer.

There are many theories on why marijuana was outlawed, and this one has no more merit than any other, as far as I know.

But this connection may prove useful to someone like Mr Mulloway, if he ever finds himself in front of a jury.

But the major point being, the BAR Association and Western medicine are run by the same people.That reside in a country noone has ever heard of. And has no lawful power in Australia to tell us what to do. Anymore than the Vatican does. But that's how they unify drug prohibition.

Western medicine being identifiable by its logo the cadaceus. Which also tells you who the temple is to. a temple being a place of worship of course.
But that might be an area too weird for most, and while being relevant in court to me, maybe too twilight zone for most.
Could you please further explain what you mean here. Are you saying the Knights of Malta run the BAR association and Western medicine? INdeed what is Western medicine? Are you talking about specific drug companies? Hospitals? Doctors? How do they do that? What is your evidence? What is this mysterious country no one has heard of?
 

isaih520

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I told you.
The midde temple has a website. http://http://www.middletemple.org.uk/home/
It proudly claimed until 2 months ago on its own website
a) it is a soverign state. Seperate from the soverign city of london
b) That the country's inhabitants or owners are the Soverign Knights of Malta
c) that they are the head of the BAr association
d) they are under Vatican authority (thats still on there as of a week ago)
( i just googled this link for you by typing middle temple into google and pressing the enter button, then clicking the middletemple http://http://www.middletemple.org.uk/home/ )

For Knights of Malta being the nominal head of freemasonry , you'll have to search a number of sources and make that evaluation by your own lights.

Western medicine same thing. But western medicine is how I discovered them in the first place. not through the law. For medicine try looking into the Knights of Stjohn. (as in stjohns ambulance. Or the knights of Malta ( as in the maltese cross you will see in hospitals) or the Knights Hospitaller , which is self explanatory ((hopefully)) )
these 3 orders are one and the same.

The mystery country is the soverign state known as "the temple"
and they have 2 seats on the united nations. as of a few years ago , when i was looking into them.

the link i posted here no longer works. try again
http://www.middletemple.org.uk/home/
 
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hard rain

I told you.
The midde temple has a website.
It proudly claimed until 2 months ago on its own website
a) it is a soverign state. Seperate from the soverign city of london
b) That the country's inhabitants or owners are the Soverign Knights of Malta
c) that they are the head of the BAr association
d) they are under Vatican authority (thats still on there as of a week ago)
( i just googled this link for you by typing middle temple into google and pressing the enter button, then clicking the middletemple http://http://www.middletemple.org.uk/home/ )

For Knights of Malta being the nominal head of freemasonry , you'll have to search a number of sources and make that evaluation by your own lights.

Western medicine same thing. But western medicine is how I discovered them in the first place. not through the law. For medicine try looking into the Knights of Stjohn. (as in stjohns ambulance. Or the knights of Malta ( as in the maltese cross you will see in hospitals) or the Knights Hospitaller , which is self explanatory ((hopefully)) )
these 3 orders are one and the same.

The mystery country is the soverign state known as "the temple"
and they have 2 seats on the united nations. as of a few years ago , when i was looking into them.
Thanks. A quick google and they don't appear that sinister.

a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple,_London
Inner Temple and Middle Temple are two of the few remaining liberties, an old name for a geographic division. They are independent extra-parochial areas,[10] historically not governed by the City of London Corporation[11] (and are today regarded as local authorities for most purposes[12]) and equally outside the ecclesiastical jurisdiction of the Bishop of London. They geographically fall within the boundaries and liberties of the City of London, but can be thought of as independent enclaves. They both are part of the City ward of Farringdon Without.
Not sure if you could call it a sovereign state?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-parochial_area
b) Can't find anything about this?
c) No I think you will find they are one of four Inns of Court
http://www.barcouncil.org.uk/about-the-bar/what-is-the-bar/inns-of-court/
http://www.middletemple.org.uk/about-us/history/
The Middle Temple and the other three Inns of Court were established by the middle of the 14th century. The Inn's name derives from the Knights Templar who had been in possession of the Temple site for over 150 years prior to that.
d) When I google this I get some youtube clips! I can't find it on the middle temple website but have not read it all.

Reading the about us bit on their website they don't seem sinister at all?

I think you are jumping to some odd conclusions if you think this mob are in charge of Western medicine. You're not mistaking symbols for actual power are you?

I can't find anything to do with your claim that of the sovereign state "The Temple" or anything about security council membership? Care to point me in the right direction?
 

isaih520

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Hard rain , no they don't advertise that they're worshipping satan in their temple and running half the world.
I should imagine if that was what they were doing, they'd be decent enough to say so.
Silly me. thanks mate. You've enlightened me.
I apologise for misleading everyone, and I mustve been lucky with the police , and the courts and the taxman.

if I was you, I wouldn't do anything illegal.
And if you do and get caught I'd do as the nice policeman and good judge tell you to do.
Like good schoolboys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKIVbuCqGuo
 
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hard rain

Hard rain , no they don't advertise that they're worshipping satan in their temple and running half the world.
I should imagine if that was what they were doing, they'd be decent enough to say so.
Satan worship!
Can we add that to your list above as
e) No you're right, I can't find that on their site either.
You did say I'd find the other things. Perhaps they have been removed.

This thread is need of an exorcism. My head is spinning around at the neck..

Anyway I'm beginning to feel like a pseudo troll in a pseudo legal thread.
 

isaih520

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Yes hardrain you may add satan worship to the list if you like.
a temple is a place of worship (google it)
They worship satan. I appreciate youre too clever to believe in the boogeyman but these fellows in their ignorance do.
and it seems to be working out quite well for them so far.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land
A quote from wiki (hate using wiki but it is at least more accurate than most of the info in this thread).

Meads v Meads

The Canadian case of Meads v Meads (2012 ABQB 571) comprehensively reviewed the freemen arguments from a legal standpoint.[9]
Dennis Larry Meads of Edmonton, Alberta, stormed out of a Court of Queen's Bench hearing on June 8, 2012, related to his divorce and matrimonial property case. In response, Associate Chief Justice John D. Rooke wrote a lengthy and comprehensive 185-page judgment rejecting various freemen claims, grouping them with other pseudolegal arguments as "Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Arguments" (OPCA), specifically, in this case, Meads' Freeman on the Land claims, arguments and documents,[10] saying that:
The bluntly idiotic substance of Mr. Mead’s argument explains the unnecessarily complicated manner in which it was presented. OPCA arguments are never sold to their customers as simple ideas, but instead are byzantine schemes which more closely resemble the plot of a dark fantasy novel than anything else. Latin maxims and powerful sounding language are often used. Documents are often ornamented with many strange marking and seals. Litigants engage in peculiar, ritual‑like in court conduct. All these features appear necessary for gurus to market OPCA schemes to their often desperate, ill‑informed, mentally disturbed, or legally abusive customers. This is crucial to understand the non-substance of any OPCA concept or strategy. The story and process of a OPCA scheme is not intended to impress or convince the Courts, but rather to impress the guru’s customer.[9

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I agree with this judge. which is why i reject freeman disinofrmation.
Treason defence is simple and straightforward.
It has the weight of law behind it.
It is a highly principled stand and will not be mocked.
It supercedes the judges power to undermine it.

(and it works)



Thanks for the link hardrain. I hope you look at the above video I recommended for you. I'm trying to be as polite as possible.
 
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GeneralExecutor

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How is best to begin this administrative process in australia?

Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge

When you posted the above we forgot to address your question, sorry hoffman, pity we cannot privately message yet, and as this information is unlikely to encourage violence - here's the Australian site for OPPT, includes all downloadable docs etc that you need, and also instructions/help on what to do, you can also contact one Lisa with questions etc:

http://www.lisamharrison.com/oppt/

here too, lots on it:

http://wakeup-world.com/oppt-in/

The above is NOT freeman stuff, it is valid and applicable and proven to work worldwide.

Keep in mind that with all legal technologies, there will always be some claiming they applied it and it didn't work for them. You will find that if the process is valid, such people are simply incompetent, which is why it works for others but not them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dp3W4xGJp8

www.http://peoplestrustaustralia.blogspot.co.uk/

Hope that helps.
 

b00m

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Sorry to say but this thread has totally lost me :dunno: too much info to sort through, but like all things to do with legality and laws, it just becomes a blur after the first 20 paragraphs and the whole religious aspect connected to what the OP had first stated about how Ganja is actually lawful in Australia, just fracks with my head even more so :yoinks:
:thank you: Isaih520 for putting this all together, hopefully it can actually help someone out in court :thank you:
 

b00m

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Heya Surfer mate :tiphat:
Appreciate the heads up on that link bruz, I'll have a squizz at it when I have a bit of spare time :D
:smoke out:
 
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For anyone wanting well researched information regarding things already mentioned in the thread, this is a MUST see. Brilliantly researched by Professor Veith, and don't mind his religious belief, he does not allow it to bias this presentation based on FACT sourced from the very text which the elite claim as their own documented doctrines, and which they use to claim the RIGHT to create and enforce law as they do.

Those who have never been exposed to this sort of information may find it very hard to accept, but they will have no option after they see it presented in plain black and white.


[YOUTUBEIF]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0GtdVQ26E[/YOUTUBEIF]
 
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