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Piff Rhys Jones

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As I said in my earlier post....

I have passed on the 'whatever' from the CHem D to the C4D # 4 & 5 these are the plants stuppa refers to.

It is not the True Chem 4, but Rez Chem 4 x Chem D.

I know I have passed it on and not just genetic drift as my main back up house has all these cuts still, and clean as the chem d is not kept there!

The worst plant that seams to have picked it up the worst is the Giesel.... that picked it up well quick.

I think I was confused by this quote.

Apologies for misunderstanding.

Peace
 

Hundred Gram Oz

Our Work is Never Over
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Not necessarily, Sifted. For example, a pathological condition such as variegation shows up when there is a nutrient deficiency. The older leaves are affected first, they yellow up while the newer growth stays green. Chem D's problem, IMO is a genetic condition quite similar to variegation, possibly even, "plant" Chimera. The thing is, the chlorophyll molecule has magnesium at it's center, once higher levels of Mg are introduced the plant shows no more variegation and that's why I personally think it's got to do with the chlorophyll, but I'm purely guessing....Who knows if we will ever get this mess figured out.
 

Hundred Gram Oz

Our Work is Never Over
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While we're on the subject, here's a few pics of the Chem D problems that I took a few years ago...

Chem D
Looking Sick

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Tell ya one thing though, I freaking love Chem D. She is hard to keep up and likes to hang once she puts on weight but the smell and power of this herb is right up my street.....I love it.

HGO
 

theherbalizor

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Yeah that was what I thought when i posted over 2 years ago. but they all started to show the problems when as stated chem d was not present at that house. Meaning it can only be genetic drift or certain conditions causing the problems.
 

theherbalizor

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Or as a mum, keep her under t5s with only 1.2ec AB ( base tap water is 0.4-6) and root excel. Not a single blemish anyway. Takes cuts much faster and super healthy. Give her too much light and she needs calmag.

Throw her under the gavita pro lighting with extra par, even with calmag she goes all weird. So much so, even the buds yellow out and die off at the end. She hates the gavita pro lights. And get her too close to the plasma she gets very upset indeed. Lol
 

Piff Rhys Jones

🌴 Hugging Trees 🌴
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Or as a mum, keep her under t5s with only 1.2ec AB ( base tap water is 0.4-6) and root excel. Not a single blemish anyway. Takes cuts much faster and super healthy. Give her too much light and she needs calmag.

Throw her under the gavita pro lighting with extra par, even with calmag she goes all weird. So much so, even the buds yellow out and die off at the end. She hates the gavita pro lights. And get her too close to the plasma she gets very upset indeed. Lol

She really is a high maintenance lady!

Like Fields said, the best ones are always the moodiest... all that ground work pays of in the end though! ;)

Peace
 
F

Fields~of~Green

allmost a week in 12/12 now and the cj is infront on the stretch
 

buffinski

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Herb think it was me causing confusion as I read a post of yours a couple of years back. It said the virus had spread to the CC Sour diesel and a few other strains that were related to the Chemdog. Had the CC and couple of other strains passed to me and they all had the virus thing. Didnt realise you had updated your opion sorry for any confusion. Funnily enough the Chem D never shows a hint of he virus anymore whatever I do to it.
 

Dope time

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Quote:
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Try putting the chem D directly under a lamp and watch the yellowing mosaic disease go wild!

Peace
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Having an absolute mare
 

theherbalizor

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Herb think it was me causing confusion as I read a post of yours a couple of years back. It said the virus had spread to the CC Sour diesel and a few other strains that were related to the Chemdog. Had the CC and couple of other strains passed to me and they all had the virus thing. Didnt realise you had updated your opion sorry for any confusion. Funnily enough the Chem D never shows a hint of he virus anymore whatever I do to it.

No need to apologise mate.

I haven't been posting online for some time due to health issue and I haven't updated my opinions on line.

So figured I best share my current thoughts on the chem d.

Since I don't smoke anymore and only vape, a couple of bags before bed. The chem d is my favorite. Followed by the CJ. The chem d and Bubba K produce by far the most vapour. Which is weird as they are not particularly heavily resinated.
 

Dope time

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Chem D is my fave too.CJ's up there also..
Don't agree with the heavily resinated statement.Thought the P98 bk like the killer queen has More Trichomes than anything I've grown before..Chem d Appears Quite Fluffy too
Apologies if your talking of a different bk!? I believe VG s bk s1 is p98 also

Katsu wasn't as fluffy
 

theherbalizor

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Yes chem d is funny. If its freaks out on me it grows quite long colas that do not meet up and are very dense. Will yield surprisingly well.

Then sometimes it will grow big donkey dick colas but a fair bit fluffier. I also find it more potent and more tastes when it freaks out. This is something VG has also found.

And yes VGs BK is the pre 98. I think I passed it to him a while back - seeing as he lives just over the hill from me. His s1s are lovely. Pretty much indistinguishable from the true bk cut.

I just hate the way the BK grows. And the chem annoys me also but at least she will willingly branch and scrog quite well.
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
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Not necessarily, Sifted. For example, a pathological condition such as variegation shows up when there is a nutrient deficiency. The older leaves are affected first, they yellow up while the newer growth stays green. Chem D's problem, IMO is a genetic condition quite similar to variegation, possibly even, "plant" Chimera. The thing is, the chlorophyll molecule has magnesium at it's center, once higher levels of Mg are introduced the plant shows no more variegation and that's why I personally think it's got to do with the chlorophyll, but I'm purely guessing....Who knows if we will ever get this mess figured out.


yeah I agree to a point.. im not sure about with chem d but whenever ive had nutrient deficiencies, the old leaves wont be effected first its generally the new growth I would see it in.

yeah it requires mg to be synthesised. so what your pretty much saying is that its chlorosis? which is a lack of chlorophyll due to a deficiency? could well be a possibility. but generally with that you will see necrosis sometimes, where parts of the leaf just die because its not absorbing enough light from pic ive seen online..

who knows! its a good theory eitherway and definitely possible. im not exactly sure how chlorophyll is synthesised within the plant so I cant shed any more light on that.

interesting topic though!..
 

siftedunity

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only other thought is that if you see it on older leaves, could it possibly be the plant using up something stored in the mature leaves (like mg) ?
 
F

Fields~of~Green

it can also be nutrient antagonism

overdoses of certain elements can lock out or displace a certain element

sodium manganese calcium and potassium can make it look like a magnesium difficiency

excess sodium can lock or displace potassium calcium and magnesium making it harder for the plant to absorb
 
W

willyweed

nice info

ive also learnt less is more i dont venture past 1.4 anymore thats with pk too the moms get 0.8ec max

the temps are more or less same lights on and off due to the heat so that should keep em in check for stretch

hi is this with ro water? thanks:thank you:
 

Piff Rhys Jones

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No need to apologise mate.

I haven't been posting online for some time due to health issue and I haven't updated my opinions on line.

So figured I best share my current thoughts on the chem d.

Since I don't smoke anymore and only vape, a couple of bags before bed. The chem d is my favorite. Followed by the CJ. The chem d and Bubba K produce by far the most vapour. Which is weird as they are not particularly heavily resinated.

Yo herb, have you tried vaping SSH? I've found certain phenos produce exceedingly thick vapour and smoke like fine hash in a spliff. The amnesia cut is a good example.

Peace
 

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