Building New Panels - Sharing the Process

[habeeb]

I am all about the data. Absent hard data, I'll take anecdotal. Measurement data is largely hard data to me.

This is great dialog on these lenses. Any improvement is welcomed. And you believe there's ~10% loss as a result? But more than made up for by directing, as I recall? A previous post of yours.

loss is usually posted on manufacture's websites..

I would say an average though is 15%

here's a lens manufacture, check them out



from my testing, you can more then make up the loss using a right lens. but remember, I think there's things at play making a highly efficient panel more then lens'.

let's just say my idea right now involves multiple different lens' angles, and spacing is not even spaced in any way shape or form..

 

[rrog]

All great dialog. I'll be curious what you come up with.

 

[rrog]

40 days into flower

40 days into flower

NL#5 x Neville's Haze Swami Seeds

 

[habeeb]

think your friend is going to have the biggest cola to date with LED.. there was this one pic rives showed of that SOL lover ( forgot his name ) ..

anyways, tell him nice work. next time see if he want's to bush the ladies out a little more before flipping, that pot looks massive.

 

[hempfield]

It's just my opinion or this colas looks more like the outdoor buds ? They appear to be more leafy to me and for sure they gonna be huge at the end.
How about the frostiness ? Can you spoil us with some closeups/macros ?

It's so nice to see what can you grow with your last creation , don't you think ?

P.S. What distance is between the led panel and the canopy ?

 

[Firebrand]

This is the thread that I have been looking for, now all I have to do is read 43 pages, I will return to this once I get caught up, thank you all for contributing to its content.

 

[hempfield]

This is the thread that I have been looking for, now all I have to do is read 43 pages, I will return to this once I get caught up, thank you all for contributing to its content.

Welcome to the club and check this sticky thread also : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=245530

 

[rrog]

Very, very helpful bunch here. Saved me many times. I'm very grateful

And tenthirty's thread is really what cemented it for me. Rives said check it out. tenthirty was really generous with the details and pics and that worked on me.

 

[Firebrand]

Welcome to the club and check this sticky thread also : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=245530

That was/is a great thread, I went there off your link and couldn't stop reading it until I finished it, now I'm back to reading this thread.

So much information that it boggles the mind, but I am starting to comprehend the basics, and I am compiling a very nice list of suppliers.

I have experience with electronics, and I also have experience in fabrication, the tricky part for me will be determining layout and arrangement combined with selecting just the right spectrum's for my personal needs.

I'm wanting to start a build, but not quite up to par yet.

 

[Chloemobile]

Have you been running an incandescent light for more far red? I remember something about need more far red from repuks grow ( When using a combination of whites) Those buds look fantastic.

 

[hempfield]

Have you been running an incandescent light for more far red? I remember something about need more far red from repuks grow ( When using a combination of whites) Those buds look fantastic.

Any incandescent or halogen bulbs ? I remember I have read somewhere that halogen bulbs put out more 'usable' IR , together with some white ( red enhanced) spectrum.

 

[rrog]

 

[rrog]

It's just my opinion or this colas looks more like the outdoor buds ? They appear to be more leafy to me and for sure they gonna be huge at the end.
How about the frostiness ? Can you spoil us with some closeups/macros ?

It's so nice to see what can you grow with your last creation , don't you think ?

P.S. What distance is between the led panel and the canopy ?

The lights are ~12-15" from canopy. I'll see about some close-ups. Swami Seed NL#5 x NHaze. The soil is really working well. No bugs no fuss.

 

[rrog]

Here's where I'm stuck. After reading many threads on LED reds, it seems the only safe thing to do is use the halogen. LOL. Hit all the red and be done with it. I don't mind supplementing LED with incandescent.

After reading many threads on LED reds, it seems the only safe thing to do is use the halogen. LOL. Hit all the red and be done with it. I don't mind supplementing LED with incandescent.

What still vexes me is the photoperiod of red. HPS, CMH, are used very successfully throughout flower, and a hell of a lot more deep red, far red and Infrared is seen with those. And all that red is on all the time. So is the 700+ red wasted using it all day? Is the Emerson Effect just a quick re-set of the clock and we don't need 700+ red all day?

Many like my friend Weezard warn against 700+ causing stretch. We don't want that, obviously.

 

[rrog]

8 weeks Two more weeks to go, maybe

 

[positivity]

Looks pretty nice rrog
You think it needs a 630/660nm boost? Maybe a few violet leds to trigger a little more resin?
Overall nice though..hard to say exactly how nice without knowing the strain
Good job, I'd be happy if what I put together can do that

 

[habeeb]

check back a couple pages..

I made a comment with pictures about that. let me know what you think

 

[positivity]

I looked back a bit to refresh my memory and saw the talk on 730 and reds. Not sure of the exact post your referring to.
I do think your absolutely right on isolating what's needed by running just warm and seeing if there's a lack of blue.
I'm waiting on my parts now for a small panel. It will be 7 ww 6 nw 3 cw. Just looking for a mix that will veg well so I mixed it a bit with a lean towards warm.
The reason for the mix is I'm running a veg panel that is cree 6500k heavy and while I like the effect it has had on shortening nodes the overall health seems a little lacking. As if i need some warm light added in for balance.
If this panel I'm about to build works, the next will be a larger flowering array. Probably all ww. And add what is needed from there. Just leave room for a strip of 660nm, a strip of violet uv, a strip of nw. For 730 I'm thinking along the lines of a passively cooled sink with a parabolic style reflector on its own timer. Maybe try one run with it on all 12 and one run with it on 15min beginning/end
Hopefully someone else does it first so the process can be speeded up
But I do this as much for fun and learning as anything so no pressure....
With heat and electrical consumption a concern it has to be led...and with the current commercial products being all over the place....I may as well build it myself and make it flexible for upgrades
Apologize for the long winded response, got too much time on my hands lately

 

[positivity]

Oh yah rrog...thanks for showing us xmls work and work well. That was much needed

 

[rrog]

It's a lotta light, that's for sure. Maybe 2 weeks to go. This is Swami Seed. NL#5 x Neville's Haze. Typical 10 week finish. Can be 12.

Apparently buds are getting heavy. I'm a long way away so I've never seen it