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Old 09-12-2012, 06:52 AM #1
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Building a Home Made LED

High All!!!

This will be a foray into my first adventure in building and hopefully tuning a home made LED light bar.
Imagine EVO 5 (For those that don't know, here is a picture of a knock off. https://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/50...EVO_light.html)
Note that it has 90 1w diodes.
I don't know about you, but I've got better things to do with my life then to solder 90 diodes.

Also note that the page says 90w, well it draws only 70 or so.
This is the first thing that made my ears perk up.
The second is a grow by Mr.X (google it if you haven't seen it!)

Now to get you on the same page.
If you haven't read through this thread, please do. Made my head explode a few times.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=184932

Now to what we are going to build.

All the parts below are sourced from rapidled.com I could get some of the stuff cheaper else where, but service and support mean something to me and they have been very helpful.
I have not ordered anything yet, but will very soon........comments!

This is not the ultimate total cost, but there is 190 bucks here already.

As-is Drilled/tapped 1.4" x 36" Aluminum Heatsink $25.00
10 ea. CREE XM-L Neutral White LED $9.00 $90.00
8 ea. Philips Rebel ES 660nm Deep Red LED $3.50 $28.00
Mean Well LPC-60-1750 constant current driver $26.00
Mean Well LPC-35-700 constant current driver 16.00 $16.00
Thermal Grease (5g) $5.50

Based off of Mr. calculator, we should be driving about 70w. Now MR.X was able to get some unreal yield numbers with very low wattage draw.
Alright, here is a link to the grow...https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=215147
With the advent of 10w chips and them already on stars. Hey I'll solder this together in 10 minutes, maybe 20.

What I'm looking for is a nice even spectrum across the board with some 660 supplement, because the XM-L neutral whites drop off there.

Pics coming when parts arrive.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:39 PM #2
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NICE GOING!!!! I was reading some of your posts in ..errr..cough..cough...another forum..
Wishing you all the best and let us know ASAP ,,,here first!!!! LOL,,,,,about how it all turns out....
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Okay okay....a few people were requesting this info:

2 Satellites and a Kush LED grow

My DIY LED 230W Panel

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The trigger has been pulled with Rapidled. The total was $216.41.

Now all I need is a couple of 2 pin AMP CPC connectors and 240v power cords and that should cover everything, though I have enough parts to power the thing up when the parts arrive.

The order from rapid led should be here by Saturday I hope.
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Looking forward to seeing this .
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sounds like fun, can't wait to see the updates and pics once your gear arrives.
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Awesome. Did you order the hanger kit too?

Though I have been a proponent of 660, but only during flower & on a separate o/o switch, the more I reread what SX said (see below), the more I think he is saying that more 660 brings nothing unique to the party. Certainly nothing to warrant adding more than 10-20% of total output.

I view its use based on how natural sunlight red spectrums increases during flower. Looks like the NW has more than enough 610-660 until the last ~ 4 weeks of flower/harvest, where a 660 boost might be beneficial.

In my last grow (which was my best yet), I used 1/8 660 HO T5s this way, the other 7 covering 280- 600, so it's more than a theory

Of course, I could be wrong about this with led. Can't wait to put my money where my mouth is. Soon I hope


SX said about NWs:
and more that 1/3 of which (i.e. the area under the curve) is over ~580nm or so (which has a Photosynthetic RS of over 90%!)"

but best to be safe until someones does a complete grow using only NWs

I would do one main board/rail with 100% NWS + 2 ~ 1.5" wide rails/heat sinks with 660s on a separate driver/timer just in case
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Awesome. Did you order the hanger kit too?
No hangar kit, but I don't have a lot of head room either.
What I am going to do is drill a couple of #40 holes and use safety wire to be able to connect the standard rope ratchets to the luminaire.

The testing setup already has a grid of piping above the grow area for easy placement of what ever is getting hung.
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Can you post pics when you are done.
And can you do a thread or journal of the grow. I have really wanted to build my own for a while now. Maybe ten of these same units over one tray
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siddartha, I will be posting up the assembly of the fixture with pic and instruction. As far as the grow goes, I run a perpetual with the same strain I've been running for a while, so I know what to expect for my existing methodology. The grow is big enough to have a large enough control group to have a relatively small standard deviation. Because of the perpetual, I will be able to run through tests pretty quickly, relatively speaking. So yes the pertinent parts of the grow will be journaled.

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Petflora, The first whack will be a single line alternating 10w whites to 1w 660 reds. so it will be 10 to 8 LEDs respectively. I believe that the whites will drive at about 1700ma and the reds somewhere around 350ma. I agree that the whites should be able to do it alone. I also agree with SX that the whites should be all that you need. Remember this is a first swath at this, so engineering constraints are weighed a little heavier than if I really knew what I was doing. The 660s sounded like a good idea, they were relatively inexpensive as was the driver, and a single driver for the whites will only drive 10 LEDs max. So I had 8 spaces left in the heat sink, so lets fill them with 660 reds. The 660 reds will accentuate the spectrum where the whites fall of dramatically according to the data sheet. There will be separate drivers with switches and/or plugs to be able to control what is on at any given point in time.

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