Anyone using the ETS LHBES 1200 yet!?!?

[Green Dot Labs]

interesting... i will give that a try, but it might make for a slower reclaim, but im pretty patient

What do you recommend for a saturation time? we use 15% n-propane, 25%-iso Butane and 60% Nbutane... we've done a 5 minute saturation time with slightly moist buds and it made sap then wax... did a blast with bone dry material and got shatter...

 

[surfguy1936]

its going to be darker and sappy when u use a soak with 60% butane. the best mix i have found is 20 n butane, 40 iso, 40 propane

 

[Green Dot Labs]

thanks for sharing surfguy, i definitely look forward to messing around with different mixes to find the right one. Do you find a long saturation time, no matter what, pulls too many of the waxes and fats through with the oils? That can definitely make it nearly impossible to shatter.

can you post up some pics of your oils surfguy?

 

[RegisPhilburn1]

How do you guys go about flooding the column on these top feed units? is the ball valve between the column and the collection pot closed when you flood the column?

I am used to the MKIII design/procedure which fills from the bottom-up.

Also how long is your typical recovery time per column?

Those mixes sound nice, is that company in CO?

 

[Gray Wolf]

interesting... i will give that a try, but it might make for a slower reclaim, but im pretty patient

What do you recommend for a saturation time? we use 15% n-propane, 25%-iso Butane and 60% Nbutane... we've done a 5 minute saturation time with slightly moist buds and it made sap then wax... did a blast with bone dry material and got shatter...

With three cycles, the soak time is around a minute the first time and two minutes the last two times.

 

[Green Dot Labs]

regis - yes, you basically move the gas into the column and close all the valves for as long as you would like to saturate. You can open the valve to the collection vessel if you want to emulate an open blast. A full recovery was about 45 minutes or so for 4.5lbs of gas. The column holds a kilo. Yes, you can pretty much crush it with one of these things.

And again, it is the only listed extraction system on the market, I believe a company named intertek gave it an ETL listing that took about a year to analyze all of the parts. It is a safe machine, and it sits in our very well ventelated and explosion proof walk in lab hood.

Thanks for the info gray wolf.. I would really love to pick your brain one day... i read a lot of things you post about but its all scattered about in this forum.

Do you collect after every blast gray wolf? and do you mix all of the oils in the end or make 3 seperate qualitys?

 

[Gray Wolf]

regis - yes, you basically move the gas into the column and close all the valves for as long as you would like to saturate. You can open the valve to the collection vessel if you want to emulate an open blast. A full recovery was about 45 minutes or so for 4.5lbs of gas. The column holds a kilo. Yes, you can pretty much crush it with one of these things.

And again, it is the only listed extraction system on the market, I believe a company named intertek gave it an ETL listing that took about a year to analyze all of the parts. It is a safe machine, and it sits in our very well ventelated and explosion proof walk in lab hood.

Thanks for the info gray wolf.. I would really love to pick your brain one day... i read a lot of things you post about but its all scattered about in this forum.

Do you collect after every blast gray wolf? and do you mix all of the oils in the end or make 3 seperate qualitys?

We usually keep strains separate, but we may blast several columns of one strain into the lower tank before removing the oil.

If we have a long run of donated trim for cancer patients, we run five or six columns between cleanings. At some point, depending on the quality of the material, the down tubes will start blasting stuff around inside the lower chamber and make it more work to clean afterwards.

 

[triple3]

Hi GrenDotLabs, care to share a picture and details of your explosion proof lab hood setup?
Can you tell me how the LHBES is different than the other closed loop systems out there?
I like the capacity but is it really that much different than a Bhogart or Mark1?
Thanks

 

[Gray Wolf]

hey Gray wolf so i have the C-082 filter already on my recovery pump, so with that would i be able to clean out the tank if i just run it through. Because I have seen liquid go through the little glass screen on it a couple times

The 082 will work until it gets saturated with water. I use the 032 for pump protection, and would use the largest that I could accommodate for drying and periodically dry it out in a 200F oven as needed.

You might also look around for used refrigerant reclaim systems, and scavenge the liquid pump and the filter dryer with an element that can be dried out in an oven. I picked up a Robinair made for Chrysler dealerships at a bankruptsy auction, and stripped that system off of it.

 

[nakadashi]

The 082 will work until it gets saturated with water. I use the 032 for pump protection, and would use the largest that I could accommodate for drying and periodically dry it out in a 200F oven as needed.

You might also look around for used refrigerant reclaim systems, and scavenge the liquid pump and the filter dryer with an element that can be dried out in an oven. I picked up a Robinair made for Chrysler dealerships at a bankruptsy auction, and stripped that system off of it.

Can all drier filters be regenerated in an oven as you are describing?

 

[babelfish]

regis - yes, you basically move the gas into the column and close all the valves for as long as you would like to saturate. You can open the valve to the collection vessel if you want to emulate an open blast. A full recovery was about 45 minutes or so for 4.5lbs of gas. The column holds a kilo. Yes, you can pretty much crush it with one of these things.

And again, it is the only listed extraction system on the market, I believe a company named intertek gave it an ETL listing that took about a year to analyze all of the parts. It is a safe machine, and it sits in our very well ventelated and explosion proof walk in lab hood.

Thanks for the info gray wolf.. I would really love to pick your brain one day... i read a lot of things you post about but its all scattered about in this forum.

Do you collect after every blast gray wolf? and do you mix all of the oils in the end or make 3 seperate qualitys?

^-Nice

 

[Gray Wolf]

regis - yes, you basically move the gas into the column and close all the valves for as long as you would like to saturate. You can open the valve to the collection vessel if you want to emulate an open blast. A full recovery was about 45 minutes or so for 4.5lbs of gas. The column holds a kilo. Yes, you can pretty much crush it with one of these things.

And again, it is the only listed extraction system on the market, I believe a company named intertek gave it an ETL listing that took about a year to analyze all of the parts. It is a safe machine, and it sits in our very well ventelated and explosion proof walk in lab hood.

Thanks for the info gray wolf.. I would really love to pick your brain one day... i read a lot of things you post about but its all scattered about in this forum.

Do you collect after every blast gray wolf? and do you mix all of the oils in the end or make 3 seperate qualitys?

We usually don't mix strains, but make one full extraction of a run, before changing tubes. Usually about three flood and pump cycles.

We may process five or six tubes, before dumping the lower tank, depending on the material and yield.

 

[surfguy1936]

Has anyone been working with these units anymore... Any new info to share

 

[ChronicChef]

Looking to buy one of these... Is it worth it compared to a Bhogart, MkIII, ect...

 

[DeMacho Labs]

Not really worth it unless you are looking to produce a lot and under strict regulations like in Colorado. Better to get the lower end units until they work out all the kinks.

 

[JointOperation]

I wish I could get trim.. honestly.. id make more bho..

and if ur saying your stuff is sticky all the time.. ive noticed with open blasting.. that if I put too much butane threw my material.. it will stay sappy.. and sticky as fuck.. but who knows.. its proly soak time.. and temp related with a closed loop.

 

[thcnology]

I recently picked up one of these.. Id say theyve worked out alot of the kinks with the new Co2 dewaxer that fits between the extraction vessel and the collection vessel. Wonder if Surfguy is still around?