Hard to say. I'm assuming Snowden if tried in the USA would be tried in a regular court of law, and Manning was tried under the UCMJ, i.e. court-martialed. So I would have to think there would be some differences, but who really knows anymore?
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U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise
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Hard to say. I'm assuming Snowden if tried in the USA would be tried in a regular court of law, and Manning was tried under the UCMJ, i.e. court-martialed. So I would have to think there would be some differences, but who really knows anymore?
regular cour of law and the UCMJ still both under Espionage Act or how is this esp act applied?
I think both would mete out same penalty for violating the EA. The part I'm not sure about is pre-trial treatment and other aspects of the trial. It's my very basic understanding that defense under courts-martial is more difficult than in civil court. Maybe someone with knowledge of both can chime in on the subject.
My friend...they are as good of people as you or I. No...I don't believe they are a benign force...but don't think them anymore evil...than any other...businessmen. Maybe they are plotting away...surly they are...
So how are you thinking you want to deal with them? Should a vote...get them out of there? Down with the Federal Reserve? Get our money back?....they are so tricky as to leave behind so much imagery...how the hell..we going to end them? They must be some cocky motherfuckers...hunt them down globally?
They make hollywood movies about this stuff.....the history channel did a show on it...it's too much like a script.
So how are you thinking you want to deal with them? Should a vote...get them out of there? Down with the Federal Reserve? Get our money back?....they are so tricky as to leave behind so much imagery...how the hell..we going to end them? They must be some cocky motherfuckers...hunt them down globally?
They make hollywood movies about this stuff.....the history channel did a show on it...it's too much like a script.
a large mass demonstration of no confidence votes against the establishment might throw a big wrench in their plans. I don't really have a answer except exercise your god given rights/natural rights.vote where you can and prep for your family and friends and spread the word and get educated about what's happening.
then maybe we can avoid chaos and martial law like they had in hurricane Katrina/ boston bombing.
that's about all we can do.
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^ Well said. At least you have a plan. I don't know man...the world is a twisted place...I'm more the watchful type. The gloom and doom doesn't go over on me.
EDIT: Can't help the faithful. The belief in democracy and religion....as I said..nothing will change way...as long as there is belief in them.
EDIT: Can't help the faithful. The belief in democracy and religion....as I said..nothing will change way...as long as there is belief in them.
Gave 10,000 unsuspecting civillians LSD. (another declassified gem)
A FBI program that defamed and broke apart a person's life that threaten's it's goals. (read-up on that FOIA gem)
You are innocent until proven guilty, and if nobody see's them do it, the law tells them they're innocent at the time. Look up the term "blackop." It's not a video game, or a groups. it's happening that produce so little evidence, nobody can be tried and not much can be said of it, for the fact of the matter is: you cannot be tried on very little evidence, it doesn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt, but what it does do, is give way to plausible denial.
Our tax, which is supposed to be on things like tea, coffee, cigarettes, alcohol or anything that does more harm or hurts productivity, but is just put on a worker for doing their job.
How big business holds the economy for raonsom, by mismanaging their money and exepecting it from the goverment.
How the poor are now hated, as the "takers."
Tell me how the dollar is shelter, food, water AND LIFE.
They're not good on rights, they seem to wax and wane depending on gun incidents. They break the 4th all the time.
They mismanage our money.
They spend money on wars and police the world, and now it's citizens, intstead of it's government are hated.
They are taking law straight from the bible.
A cop can film you, but will beat the shit out of you if you film them.
A cop can arrest you only on suspicion, because it's reasonable a dumb person thinks a shiny chip bag is a shimmering pipe.
It's like a psycho with a knife: comply with UN resolution # 1344 or we'll sanction you and make your country poorer.
Look at the UN batting around Iraq in 1990 and then when they didn't comply (actually they were disarming, and were produced the data needed, but we "didn't believe them".....literally that's all it takes), we bombed them for 4 months. Later on we found the documentation on their weaponry to be accurate.
A WMD in the 2000's was used for a purpose to engage in war.
See, we didn't believe them on their Cruise missile disarmament, and we didn't believe them when they said they had no WMD's.
Now in Syria, they will have you believe in anything. Now in Iran. Or anywhere.
PsyOps, the army MOS , is specifically for panning out disinformation and to make the war effort go more smoothly.
People don't percieve it as bad, their rights are nothing.
When a cop asks you where you're going, he isn't interested at all what your day is about. He wants to know if you have a story that lines up.
People don't understand that it's not an innocent question at all, but an investigation into your possible wrong doings.
If you ask them why, it'll be "just wonderin, dude, why are you mad, is it because you have drugs?"
Same thing with people who are stronger than them "must be on drugs." So right away they're breaking the law and aren't treated humanely.
If if you refuse search, they'll threaten with dogs or say you're in for a long night, or that they aren't responsible for damages.
A FBI program that defamed and broke apart a person's life that threaten's it's goals. (read-up on that FOIA gem)
You are innocent until proven guilty, and if nobody see's them do it, the law tells them they're innocent at the time. Look up the term "blackop." It's not a video game, or a groups. it's happening that produce so little evidence, nobody can be tried and not much can be said of it, for the fact of the matter is: you cannot be tried on very little evidence, it doesn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt, but what it does do, is give way to plausible denial.
Our tax, which is supposed to be on things like tea, coffee, cigarettes, alcohol or anything that does more harm or hurts productivity, but is just put on a worker for doing their job.
How big business holds the economy for raonsom, by mismanaging their money and exepecting it from the goverment.
How the poor are now hated, as the "takers."
Tell me how the dollar is shelter, food, water AND LIFE.
They're not good on rights, they seem to wax and wane depending on gun incidents. They break the 4th all the time.
They mismanage our money.
They spend money on wars and police the world, and now it's citizens, intstead of it's government are hated.
They are taking law straight from the bible.
A cop can film you, but will beat the shit out of you if you film them.
A cop can arrest you only on suspicion, because it's reasonable a dumb person thinks a shiny chip bag is a shimmering pipe.
It's like a psycho with a knife: comply with UN resolution # 1344 or we'll sanction you and make your country poorer.
Look at the UN batting around Iraq in 1990 and then when they didn't comply (actually they were disarming, and were produced the data needed, but we "didn't believe them".....literally that's all it takes), we bombed them for 4 months. Later on we found the documentation on their weaponry to be accurate.
A WMD in the 2000's was used for a purpose to engage in war.
See, we didn't believe them on their Cruise missile disarmament, and we didn't believe them when they said they had no WMD's.
Now in Syria, they will have you believe in anything. Now in Iran. Or anywhere.
PsyOps, the army MOS , is specifically for panning out disinformation and to make the war effort go more smoothly.
People don't percieve it as bad, their rights are nothing.
When a cop asks you where you're going, he isn't interested at all what your day is about. He wants to know if you have a story that lines up.
People don't understand that it's not an innocent question at all, but an investigation into your possible wrong doings.
If you ask them why, it'll be "just wonderin, dude, why are you mad, is it because you have drugs?"
Same thing with people who are stronger than them "must be on drugs." So right away they're breaking the law and aren't treated humanely.
If if you refuse search, they'll threaten with dogs or say you're in for a long night, or that they aren't responsible for damages.
If citizens of all states had the authority and the willingness to recall and dismiss their representatives and senators at any time, we'd see a difference. I think 18 or 19 states currently have the ability to do so, but it very rarely happens. We should have the ability to recall the president and vice president as well.
Another step toward making our votes really worth something would be giving citizens of all the states the ability to place legislation on the ballot for popular vote. Citizens of many states, particularly the southern states, don't have this ability. If the southern states did, I can just about guarantee at least one would have legal or at least medical Cannabis now.
XKeyscore: NSA tool collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'
• XKeyscore gives 'widest-reaching' collection of online data
• NSA analysts require no prior authorization for searches
• Sweeps up emails, social media activity and browsing history
• NSA's XKeyscore program – read one of the presentations
XKeyscore map
One presentation claims the XKeyscore program covers 'nearly everything a typical user does on the internet'
A top secret National Security Agency program allows analysts to search with no prior authorization through vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing histories of millions of individuals, according to documents provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.
The NSA boasts in training materials that the program, called XKeyscore, is its "widest-reaching" system for developing intelligence from the internet.
The latest revelations will add to the intense public and congressional debate around the extent of NSA surveillance programs. They come as senior intelligence officials testify to the Senate judiciary committee on Wednesday, releasing classified documents in response to the Guardian's earlier stories on bulk collection of phone records and Fisa surveillance court oversight.
The files shed light on one of Snowden's most controversial statements, made in his first video interview published by the Guardian on June 10.
"I, sitting at my desk," said Snowden, could "wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge or even the president, if I had a personal email".
US officials vehemently denied this specific claim. Mike Rogers, the Republican chairman of the House intelligence committee, said of Snowden's assertion: "He's lying. It's impossible for him to do what he was saying he could do."
But training materials for XKeyscore detail how analysts can use it and other systems to mine enormous agency databases by filling in a simple on-screen form giving only a broad justification for the search. The request is not reviewed by a court or any NSA personnel before it is processed.
XKeyscore, the documents boast, is the NSA's "widest reaching" system developing intelligence from computer networks – what the agency calls Digital Network Intelligence (DNI). One presentation claims the program covers "nearly everything a typical user does on the internet", including the content of emails, websites visited and searches, as well as their metadata.
Analysts can also use XKeyscore and other NSA systems to obtain ongoing "real-time" interception of an individual's internet activity.
Under US law, the NSA is required to obtain an individualized Fisa warrant only if the target of their surveillance is a 'US person', though no such warrant is required for intercepting the communications of Americans with foreign targets. But XKeyscore provides the technological capability, if not the legal authority, to target even US persons for extensive electronic surveillance without a warrant provided that some identifying information, such as their email or IP address, is known to the analyst.
One training slide illustrates the digital activity constantly being collected by XKeyscore and the analyst's ability to query the databases at any time.
KS1
The purpose of XKeyscore is to allow analysts to search the metadata as well as the content of emails and other internet activity, such as browser history, even when there is no known email account (a "selector" in NSA parlance) associated with the individual being targeted.
Analysts can also search by name, telephone number, IP address, keywords, the language in which the internet activity was conducted or the type of browser used.
One document notes that this is because "strong selection [search by email address] itself gives us only a very limited capability" because "a large amount of time spent on the web is performing actions that are anonymous."
The NSA documents assert that by 2008, 300 terrorists had been captured using intelligence from XKeyscore.
Analysts are warned that searching the full database for content will yield too many results to sift through. Instead they are advised to use the metadata also stored in the databases to narrow down what to review.
A slide entitled "plug-ins" in a December 2012 document describes the various fields of information that can be searched. It includes "every email address seen in a session by both username and domain", "every phone number seen in a session (eg address book entries or signature block)" and user activity – "the webmail and chat activity to include username, buddylist, machine specific cookies etc".
Email monitoring
In a second Guardian interview in June, Snowden elaborated on his statement about being able to read any individual's email if he had their email address. He said the claim was based in part on the email search capabilities of XKeyscore, which Snowden says he was authorized to use while working as a Booz Allen contractor for the NSA.
One top-secret document describes how the program "searches within bodies of emails, webpages and documents", including the "To, From, CC, BCC lines" and the 'Contact Us' pages on websites".
To search for emails, an analyst using XKS enters the individual's email address into a simple online search form, along with the "justification" for the search and the time period for which the emails are sought.
KS2
KS3edit2
The analyst then selects which of those returned emails they want to read by opening them in NSA reading software.
The system is similar to the way in which NSA analysts generally can intercept the communications of anyone they select, including, as one NSA document put it, "communications that transit the United States and communications that terminate in the United States".
One document, a top secret 2010 guide describing the training received by NSA analysts for general surveillance under the Fisa Amendments Act of 2008, explains that analysts can begin surveillance on anyone by clicking a few simple pull-down menus designed to provide both legal and targeting justifications. Once options on the pull-down menus are selected, their target is marked for electronic surveillance and the analyst is able to review the content of their communications:
KS4
Chats, browsing history and other internet activity
Beyond emails, the XKeyscore system allows analysts to monitor a virtually unlimited array of other internet activities, including those within social media.
An NSA tool called DNI Presenter, used to read the content of stored emails, also enables an analyst using XKeyscore to read the content of Facebook chats or private messages.
KS55edit
An analyst can monitor such Facebook chats by entering the Facebook user name and a date range into a simple search screen.
KS6
Analysts can search for internet browsing activities using a wide range of information, including search terms entered by the user or the websites viewed.
KS7
As one slide indicates, the ability to search HTTP activity by keyword permits the analyst access to what the NSA calls "nearly everything a typical user does on the internet".
KS8
The XKeyscore program also allows an analyst to learn the IP addresses of every person who visits any website the analyst specifies.
KS9
The quantity of communications accessible through programs such as XKeyscore is staggeringly large. One NSA report from 2007 estimated that there were 850bn "call events" collected and stored in the NSA databases, and close to 150bn internet records. Each day, the document says, 1-2bn records were added.
William Binney, a former NSA mathematician, said last year that the agency had "assembled on the order of 20tn transactions about US citizens with other US citizens", an estimate, he said, that "only was involving phone calls and emails". A 2010 Washington Post article reported that "every day, collection systems at the [NSA] intercept and store 1.7bn emails, phone calls and other type of communications."
The XKeyscore system is continuously collecting so much internet data that it can be stored only for short periods of time. Content remains on the system for only three to five days, while metadata is stored for 30 days. One document explains: "At some sites, the amount of data we receive per day (20+ terabytes) can only be stored for as little as 24 hours."
To solve this problem, the NSA has created a multi-tiered system that allows analysts to store "interesting" content in other databases, such as one named Pinwale which can store material for up to five years.
It is the databases of XKeyscore, one document shows, that now contain the greatest amount of communications data collected by the NSA.
KS10
In 2012, there were at least 41 billion total records collected and stored in XKeyscore for a single 30-day period.
KS11
Legal v technical restrictions
While the Fisa Amendments Act of 2008 requires an individualized warrant for the targeting of US persons, NSA analysts are permitted to intercept the communications of such individuals without a warrant if they are in contact with one of the NSA's foreign targets.
The ACLU's deputy legal director, Jameel Jaffer, told the Guardian last month that national security officials expressly said that a primary purpose of the new law was to enable them to collect large amounts of Americans' communications without individualized warrants.
"The government doesn't need to 'target' Americans in order to collect huge volumes of their communications," said Jaffer. "The government inevitably sweeps up the communications of many Americans" when targeting foreign nationals for surveillance.
An example is provided by one XKeyscore document showing an NSA target in Tehran communicating with people in Frankfurt, Amsterdam and New York.
KS12
In recent years, the NSA has attempted to segregate exclusively domestic US communications in separate databases. But even NSA documents acknowledge that such efforts are imperfect, as even purely domestic communications can travel on foreign systems, and NSA tools are sometimes unable to identify the national origins of communications.
Moreover, all communications between Americans and someone on foreign soil are included in the same databases as foreign-to-foreign communications, making them readily searchable without warrants.
Some searches conducted by NSA analysts are periodically reviewed by their supervisors within the NSA. "It's very rare to be questioned on our searches," Snowden told the Guardian in June, "and even when we are, it's usually along the lines of: 'let's bulk up the justification'."
In a letter this week to senator Ron Wyden, director of national intelligence James Clapper acknowledged that NSA analysts have exceeded even legal limits as interpreted by the NSA in domestic surveillance.
Acknowledging what he called "a number of compliance problems", Clapper attributed them to "human error" or "highly sophisticated technology issues" rather than "bad faith".
However, Wyden said on the Senate floor on Tuesday: "These violations are more serious than those stated by the intelligence community, and are troubling."
In a statement to the Guardian, the NSA said: "NSA's activities are focused and specifically deployed against – and only against – legitimate foreign intelligence targets in response to requirements that our leaders need for information necessary to protect our nation and its interests.
"XKeyscore is used as a part of NSA's lawful foreign signals intelligence collection system.
"Allegations of widespread, unchecked analyst access to NSA collection data are simply not true. Access to XKeyscore, as well as all of NSA's analytic tools, is limited to only those personnel who require access for their assigned tasks … In addition, there are multiple technical, manual and supervisory checks and balances within the system to prevent deliberate misuse from occurring."
"Every search by an NSA analyst is fully auditable, to ensure that they are proper and within the law.
"These types of programs allow us to collect the information that enables us to perform our missions successfully – to defend the nation and to protect US and allied troops abroad."
• XKeyscore gives 'widest-reaching' collection of online data
• NSA analysts require no prior authorization for searches
• Sweeps up emails, social media activity and browsing history
• NSA's XKeyscore program – read one of the presentations
XKeyscore map
One presentation claims the XKeyscore program covers 'nearly everything a typical user does on the internet'
A top secret National Security Agency program allows analysts to search with no prior authorization through vast databases containing emails, online chats and the browsing histories of millions of individuals, according to documents provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.
The NSA boasts in training materials that the program, called XKeyscore, is its "widest-reaching" system for developing intelligence from the internet.
The latest revelations will add to the intense public and congressional debate around the extent of NSA surveillance programs. They come as senior intelligence officials testify to the Senate judiciary committee on Wednesday, releasing classified documents in response to the Guardian's earlier stories on bulk collection of phone records and Fisa surveillance court oversight.
The files shed light on one of Snowden's most controversial statements, made in his first video interview published by the Guardian on June 10.
"I, sitting at my desk," said Snowden, could "wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge or even the president, if I had a personal email".
US officials vehemently denied this specific claim. Mike Rogers, the Republican chairman of the House intelligence committee, said of Snowden's assertion: "He's lying. It's impossible for him to do what he was saying he could do."
But training materials for XKeyscore detail how analysts can use it and other systems to mine enormous agency databases by filling in a simple on-screen form giving only a broad justification for the search. The request is not reviewed by a court or any NSA personnel before it is processed.
XKeyscore, the documents boast, is the NSA's "widest reaching" system developing intelligence from computer networks – what the agency calls Digital Network Intelligence (DNI). One presentation claims the program covers "nearly everything a typical user does on the internet", including the content of emails, websites visited and searches, as well as their metadata.
Analysts can also use XKeyscore and other NSA systems to obtain ongoing "real-time" interception of an individual's internet activity.
Under US law, the NSA is required to obtain an individualized Fisa warrant only if the target of their surveillance is a 'US person', though no such warrant is required for intercepting the communications of Americans with foreign targets. But XKeyscore provides the technological capability, if not the legal authority, to target even US persons for extensive electronic surveillance without a warrant provided that some identifying information, such as their email or IP address, is known to the analyst.
One training slide illustrates the digital activity constantly being collected by XKeyscore and the analyst's ability to query the databases at any time.
KS1
The purpose of XKeyscore is to allow analysts to search the metadata as well as the content of emails and other internet activity, such as browser history, even when there is no known email account (a "selector" in NSA parlance) associated with the individual being targeted.
Analysts can also search by name, telephone number, IP address, keywords, the language in which the internet activity was conducted or the type of browser used.
One document notes that this is because "strong selection [search by email address] itself gives us only a very limited capability" because "a large amount of time spent on the web is performing actions that are anonymous."
The NSA documents assert that by 2008, 300 terrorists had been captured using intelligence from XKeyscore.
Analysts are warned that searching the full database for content will yield too many results to sift through. Instead they are advised to use the metadata also stored in the databases to narrow down what to review.
A slide entitled "plug-ins" in a December 2012 document describes the various fields of information that can be searched. It includes "every email address seen in a session by both username and domain", "every phone number seen in a session (eg address book entries or signature block)" and user activity – "the webmail and chat activity to include username, buddylist, machine specific cookies etc".
Email monitoring
In a second Guardian interview in June, Snowden elaborated on his statement about being able to read any individual's email if he had their email address. He said the claim was based in part on the email search capabilities of XKeyscore, which Snowden says he was authorized to use while working as a Booz Allen contractor for the NSA.
One top-secret document describes how the program "searches within bodies of emails, webpages and documents", including the "To, From, CC, BCC lines" and the 'Contact Us' pages on websites".
To search for emails, an analyst using XKS enters the individual's email address into a simple online search form, along with the "justification" for the search and the time period for which the emails are sought.
KS2
KS3edit2
The analyst then selects which of those returned emails they want to read by opening them in NSA reading software.
The system is similar to the way in which NSA analysts generally can intercept the communications of anyone they select, including, as one NSA document put it, "communications that transit the United States and communications that terminate in the United States".
One document, a top secret 2010 guide describing the training received by NSA analysts for general surveillance under the Fisa Amendments Act of 2008, explains that analysts can begin surveillance on anyone by clicking a few simple pull-down menus designed to provide both legal and targeting justifications. Once options on the pull-down menus are selected, their target is marked for electronic surveillance and the analyst is able to review the content of their communications:
KS4
Chats, browsing history and other internet activity
Beyond emails, the XKeyscore system allows analysts to monitor a virtually unlimited array of other internet activities, including those within social media.
An NSA tool called DNI Presenter, used to read the content of stored emails, also enables an analyst using XKeyscore to read the content of Facebook chats or private messages.
KS55edit
An analyst can monitor such Facebook chats by entering the Facebook user name and a date range into a simple search screen.
KS6
Analysts can search for internet browsing activities using a wide range of information, including search terms entered by the user or the websites viewed.
KS7
As one slide indicates, the ability to search HTTP activity by keyword permits the analyst access to what the NSA calls "nearly everything a typical user does on the internet".
KS8
The XKeyscore program also allows an analyst to learn the IP addresses of every person who visits any website the analyst specifies.
KS9
The quantity of communications accessible through programs such as XKeyscore is staggeringly large. One NSA report from 2007 estimated that there were 850bn "call events" collected and stored in the NSA databases, and close to 150bn internet records. Each day, the document says, 1-2bn records were added.
William Binney, a former NSA mathematician, said last year that the agency had "assembled on the order of 20tn transactions about US citizens with other US citizens", an estimate, he said, that "only was involving phone calls and emails". A 2010 Washington Post article reported that "every day, collection systems at the [NSA] intercept and store 1.7bn emails, phone calls and other type of communications."
The XKeyscore system is continuously collecting so much internet data that it can be stored only for short periods of time. Content remains on the system for only three to five days, while metadata is stored for 30 days. One document explains: "At some sites, the amount of data we receive per day (20+ terabytes) can only be stored for as little as 24 hours."
To solve this problem, the NSA has created a multi-tiered system that allows analysts to store "interesting" content in other databases, such as one named Pinwale which can store material for up to five years.
It is the databases of XKeyscore, one document shows, that now contain the greatest amount of communications data collected by the NSA.
KS10
In 2012, there were at least 41 billion total records collected and stored in XKeyscore for a single 30-day period.
KS11
Legal v technical restrictions
While the Fisa Amendments Act of 2008 requires an individualized warrant for the targeting of US persons, NSA analysts are permitted to intercept the communications of such individuals without a warrant if they are in contact with one of the NSA's foreign targets.
The ACLU's deputy legal director, Jameel Jaffer, told the Guardian last month that national security officials expressly said that a primary purpose of the new law was to enable them to collect large amounts of Americans' communications without individualized warrants.
"The government doesn't need to 'target' Americans in order to collect huge volumes of their communications," said Jaffer. "The government inevitably sweeps up the communications of many Americans" when targeting foreign nationals for surveillance.
An example is provided by one XKeyscore document showing an NSA target in Tehran communicating with people in Frankfurt, Amsterdam and New York.
KS12
In recent years, the NSA has attempted to segregate exclusively domestic US communications in separate databases. But even NSA documents acknowledge that such efforts are imperfect, as even purely domestic communications can travel on foreign systems, and NSA tools are sometimes unable to identify the national origins of communications.
Moreover, all communications between Americans and someone on foreign soil are included in the same databases as foreign-to-foreign communications, making them readily searchable without warrants.
Some searches conducted by NSA analysts are periodically reviewed by their supervisors within the NSA. "It's very rare to be questioned on our searches," Snowden told the Guardian in June, "and even when we are, it's usually along the lines of: 'let's bulk up the justification'."
In a letter this week to senator Ron Wyden, director of national intelligence James Clapper acknowledged that NSA analysts have exceeded even legal limits as interpreted by the NSA in domestic surveillance.
Acknowledging what he called "a number of compliance problems", Clapper attributed them to "human error" or "highly sophisticated technology issues" rather than "bad faith".
However, Wyden said on the Senate floor on Tuesday: "These violations are more serious than those stated by the intelligence community, and are troubling."
In a statement to the Guardian, the NSA said: "NSA's activities are focused and specifically deployed against – and only against – legitimate foreign intelligence targets in response to requirements that our leaders need for information necessary to protect our nation and its interests.
"XKeyscore is used as a part of NSA's lawful foreign signals intelligence collection system.
"Allegations of widespread, unchecked analyst access to NSA collection data are simply not true. Access to XKeyscore, as well as all of NSA's analytic tools, is limited to only those personnel who require access for their assigned tasks … In addition, there are multiple technical, manual and supervisory checks and balances within the system to prevent deliberate misuse from occurring."
"Every search by an NSA analyst is fully auditable, to ensure that they are proper and within the law.
"These types of programs allow us to collect the information that enables us to perform our missions successfully – to defend the nation and to protect US and allied troops abroad."
yes, the states should be sovereign and people should have the ability to have a say in what laws are passed in their state, in pursuance, not violation of their rights.
unfortunately there are a lot off believers in lincoln's post war union.
they will want to crush morally and physically anyone who thinks of leaving big brother.
Nullification: Interview with a Zombie
[YOUTUBEIF]TrcM5exDxcc[/YOUTUBEIF]
Everybody's spying
It's not coming, it's already here
The Robot Dragonfly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDuvBurbjVU
Robot Dragonfly - Micro Aerial Vehicle
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/robot-dragonfly-micro-aerial-vehicle
While they're watching us, we shall watch them back ok?
Heh Heh
It's not coming, it's already here
The Robot Dragonfly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDuvBurbjVU
Robot Dragonfly - Micro Aerial Vehicle
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/robot-dragonfly-micro-aerial-vehicle
While they're watching us, we shall watch them back ok?
Heh Heh
well it looks like Snowden has been granted asylum. he has reportedly left the airport with documents allowing him to live and work anywhere in the Russian federation. guardian has the story.
I'm sure the KGB has some openings?
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check this out, the ultimate blackmailing tool
http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa-xkeyscore-program-full-presentation
http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/jul/31/nsa-xkeyscore-program-full-presentation
I could have this wrong it might be another group but the world is definitely run by a "group" .. There are far too many secret meetings, and all you really need to do is "FOLLOW THE MONEY" ,, Geee this leads to WHO?? lol... The rich are getting richer on your back do not forget this shit...
The banks alone should wake you up to what they are up too headband 707
The banks alone should wake you up to what they are up too headband 707
well you do have a lot of groups involved in running the world anyway, no one can doubt that many top tier masons are also occupying top tiers in general society, judges, generals, senators etc. at this point they have the Bilderberg group and the Bohemian Grove club. so in the end they are like everyone, they meet up at these events and they talk and opportunities crop up, deals are made, plots are hatched. basically it's human nature, trouble is when the worlds elite start doing that, they quickly accumulate gigantic power and money amounts. so i don't think that any one group rules the world, it's more that they all know each other at the top and act in concert, mostly protecting their own and always profiting from the masses. not sure they even need orders anymore, they all know where they want to go and strive to get there. the only saving grace is that they have their own groups too, some of them have different plans to achieve their ends. this explains the bickering about the details, as everyone is still trying to look out for them selves before anything else. but the basic direction for society seems to be more tyranny and less freedom and specially less wealth with the common man.
and the story gets more complicated, now we have US tax payer money going to UK spy agency to pay them to spy and share the results with the NSA. isn't it great what you can do when you can print and borrow unlimited amounts of dollars at the expense of the whole rest of the world.
Exclusive: NSA pays £100m in secret funding for GCHQ
• Secret payments revealed in leaks by Edward Snowden
• GCHQ expected to 'pull its weight' for Americans
• Weaker regulation of British spies 'a selling point' for NSA
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden
Exclusive: NSA pays £100m in secret funding for GCHQ
• Secret payments revealed in leaks by Edward Snowden
• GCHQ expected to 'pull its weight' for Americans
• Weaker regulation of British spies 'a selling point' for NSA
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden
Everything you thought was good ...is really Bad...and everything you thought was bad..is really Good
Putin + Chinese Dragon Family need to finally make their move ...
Putin + Chinese Dragon Family need to finally make their move ...
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