alright that's your opinion. you are certainly entitled to it.
I have read those letters or at least the one talking about the jacobian's .
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alright that's your opinion. you are certainly entitled to it.
I have read those letters or at least the one talking about the jacobian's .
The Pike letters are clearly a modern fraud my friend.
Where are the letters now? Who discovered them? When were they discovered?
The only information comes from the assertions of men such as William Guy Carr who wrote about this stuff in the 50's and claimed the British Museum had these letters. Considering Carr claims these letters were written in 1871, that would mean Pike is a prophet as he is speaking about the state of Israel and Nazism decades before they happened.
Pike was a smart dude, and one of the most misquoted men ever by conspiracy theorists. Definitely not a prophet though.
If you assume that William Guy Carr is the author of Pike's Three Wars then it makes quite much more logical sense because the first two world wars were already over by then time he came around in the late 1950's.
Where are the letters now? Who discovered them? When were they discovered?
The only information comes from the assertions of men such as William Guy Carr who wrote about this stuff in the 50's and claimed the British Museum had these letters. Considering Carr claims these letters were written in 1871, that would mean Pike is a prophet as he is speaking about the state of Israel and Nazism decades before they happened.
Pike was a smart dude, and one of the most misquoted men ever by conspiracy theorists. Definitely not a prophet though.
If you assume that William Guy Carr is the author of Pike's Three Wars then it makes quite much more logical sense because the first two world wars were already over by then time he came around in the late 1950's.
yeah it's not like every hot topic has to be discussed in this one thread guys.....Israel and the Arabs? way to get everyone pissed off at one another. think i'll nip that in the bud, it's a thread killer if ever i saw one.
Well no matter...I know I'm not privy to Mason insider info....and I somehow...doubt you are either. So back to conjectures.
I'm sure though...you can see..how it can be spun into fantasy. Not unlike religion...or any other religion (as one could say). I applaud the Masons for keeping themselves cloaked in plain sight...for all these centuries...lol...keeping the world on its axis.
I think my granddad probably shook hands...and shared drinks with all the other prominent business men of his town. Made his connections...propelled his station. He never revealed their plans on ruling the world...but probably greased some wheels...networked
Rosicrucianism
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The Temple of the Rose Cross, Teophilus Schweighardt Constantiens, 1618.
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Rosicrucianism is a generic term referring to studies or membership within a philosophical secret society said to have been founded in late medieval Germany by Christian Rosenkreuz. It holds a doctrine or theology "built on esoteric truths of the ancient past", which, "concealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe and the spiritual realm."[1] Rosicrucianism is symbolized by the Rosy Cross.
Between 1607 and 1616, two anonymous manifestos were published, first in Germany and later throughout Europe.[2] These were the Fama Fraternitatis RC (The Fame of the Brotherhood of RC) and the Confessio Fraternitatis (The Confession of the Brotherhood of RC). The influence of these documents, presenting a "most laudable Order" of mystic-philosopher-doctors and promoting a "Universal Reformation of Mankind", gave rise to an enthusiasm called by its historian Dame Frances Yates the "Rosicrucian Enlightenment".[3]
Rosicrucianism was associated with Protestantism, Lutheranism in particular,[4] and the manifestos opposed Roman Catholicism and its preference for dogma over empiricism. They also rejected Muhammad,[citation needed] though they traced their philosophy and science to the Moors, asserting that it had been kept secret for 120 years until the intellectual climate might receive it.
Early seventeenth century occult philosophers such as Michael Maier, Robert Fludd and Thomas Vaughan interested themselves in the Rosicrucian world view.[5] According to historian David Stevenson it was also influential to Freemasonry as it was emerging in Scotland.[4] In later centuries, many esoteric societies have claimed to derive their doctrines, in whole or in part, from the original Rosicrucians. Several modern societies have been formed for the study of Rosicrucianism and allied subjects.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Temple of the Rose Cross, Teophilus Schweighardt Constantiens, 1618.
Part of a series of articles on
Hermeticism
Hermes Trismegistus
Hermetic Religion
Hermeticism
Mythology
Hermes Trismegistus Thoth Poimandres
Hermetica
Corpus Hermeticum Kybalion
Three Parts of the Wisdom of the Whole Universe
Alchemy Astrology Theurgy
Influence and Influences
Hermetic Movements
Rosicrucianism
Orders
Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn Hermetic Brotherhood of Luxor Hermetic Brotherhood of Light Ordo Templi Orientis
Topics in Hermetism
Qabalah Occult and divinatory tarot
Hermetists and Hermeticists
John Dee Aleister Crowley Israel Regardie
Thābit ibn Qurra Paracelsus
Giordano Bruno Ahmad al-Būni Samuel MacGregor Mathers William Westcott
Franz Bardon Jakob Böhme
v t e
Rosicrucianism is a generic term referring to studies or membership within a philosophical secret society said to have been founded in late medieval Germany by Christian Rosenkreuz. It holds a doctrine or theology "built on esoteric truths of the ancient past", which, "concealed from the average man, provide insight into nature, the physical universe and the spiritual realm."[1] Rosicrucianism is symbolized by the Rosy Cross.
Between 1607 and 1616, two anonymous manifestos were published, first in Germany and later throughout Europe.[2] These were the Fama Fraternitatis RC (The Fame of the Brotherhood of RC) and the Confessio Fraternitatis (The Confession of the Brotherhood of RC). The influence of these documents, presenting a "most laudable Order" of mystic-philosopher-doctors and promoting a "Universal Reformation of Mankind", gave rise to an enthusiasm called by its historian Dame Frances Yates the "Rosicrucian Enlightenment".[3]
Rosicrucianism was associated with Protestantism, Lutheranism in particular,[4] and the manifestos opposed Roman Catholicism and its preference for dogma over empiricism. They also rejected Muhammad,[citation needed] though they traced their philosophy and science to the Moors, asserting that it had been kept secret for 120 years until the intellectual climate might receive it.
Early seventeenth century occult philosophers such as Michael Maier, Robert Fludd and Thomas Vaughan interested themselves in the Rosicrucian world view.[5] According to historian David Stevenson it was also influential to Freemasonry as it was emerging in Scotland.[4] In later centuries, many esoteric societies have claimed to derive their doctrines, in whole or in part, from the original Rosicrucians. Several modern societies have been formed for the study of Rosicrucianism and allied subjects.
the thing with the masons is you have to be very high up on the ladder to be told what their real global agenda is. most of the low level masons have no idea what the higher ups are all about. for each level their is a set of truths, the higher up you go the more the truth changes.
There is a lodge No. 166 that has the Freemason symbol on it in my town.
Our town's commerce sign, also has the compass symbol and above it "Freemasons."
There is also they stamp of the compass on each concrete light-post bottom, on the main street.
They network and make small decisions to make their towns better, and believe in higher power.
I guess I believe I didn't create myself, and that if I am physical, but somehow a mind emerges, that the universe is one big mind, because I don't make decisions, and neither does it. The "fact" that we do is totally false, because we always choose based on something around us, and are part of the whole. Any decision that is made, was predestined.
You do not have to personify this "God" because it can mean the rules of the universe, the pattern of life, but giving it a "person" is the same we do with human bodies. We give them "persona" which is greek for mask.
It's not so hard to get rid of the devil. The devil is ungod. Not a real god -and no real power.
Also, God cannot be this white, person who is male. The means his penis would inseminate things and is meant somehow for a vagina.
Now if God was a sort of "rule" like evolution, or how matter forms, then it's alright.
The more we try to personify nature, the more we project our attributes, ego, ideals and values until it's just made-up.
Evolution explains it. Gays can't make kids. Physics explains light was one of the first things after baryons were formed. Biology says a biological soup existed, the bible says in Genesis, that God brothe "life" into some dust.
One is a science that humans study and promote as a truth of their own - the bible and religions.
One is a science that is more exact, and holds truth that another can independently verify and it's findings are true between even different languages and cultures, such as calculating the speed of light or determining how much energy is needed to raise 1ml of water 1 degree C.
Not saying God exists. Just that God is a title people use to personify something that makes decisions and feels, because they seem to do that also.
Natural selection is carried out by the environment AND the animal together as an interaction, which is much like a "thought" of the universe.
Our town's commerce sign, also has the compass symbol and above it "Freemasons."
There is also they stamp of the compass on each concrete light-post bottom, on the main street.
They network and make small decisions to make their towns better, and believe in higher power.
I guess I believe I didn't create myself, and that if I am physical, but somehow a mind emerges, that the universe is one big mind, because I don't make decisions, and neither does it. The "fact" that we do is totally false, because we always choose based on something around us, and are part of the whole. Any decision that is made, was predestined.
You do not have to personify this "God" because it can mean the rules of the universe, the pattern of life, but giving it a "person" is the same we do with human bodies. We give them "persona" which is greek for mask.
It's not so hard to get rid of the devil. The devil is ungod. Not a real god -and no real power.
Also, God cannot be this white, person who is male. The means his penis would inseminate things and is meant somehow for a vagina.
Now if God was a sort of "rule" like evolution, or how matter forms, then it's alright.
The more we try to personify nature, the more we project our attributes, ego, ideals and values until it's just made-up.
Evolution explains it. Gays can't make kids. Physics explains light was one of the first things after baryons were formed. Biology says a biological soup existed, the bible says in Genesis, that God brothe "life" into some dust.
One is a science that humans study and promote as a truth of their own - the bible and religions.
One is a science that is more exact, and holds truth that another can independently verify and it's findings are true between even different languages and cultures, such as calculating the speed of light or determining how much energy is needed to raise 1ml of water 1 degree C.
Not saying God exists. Just that God is a title people use to personify something that makes decisions and feels, because they seem to do that also.
Natural selection is carried out by the environment AND the animal together as an interaction, which is much like a "thought" of the universe.
Possible....but then...how would you know? I'm kind of bummed I was never offered the opportunity to become a mason..as if they have been running the world for all these centuries...I applaud them. Someone stood up...saw the situation for what it was..and took action.
Ruthless personalities are most definitely necessary. Ruthless personalities with the intelligence to pull off something like...ruling the world...are to be respected. I respect them...far more...than I do..the general population of dimwits. The general population is fodder...there only use is...to be...fodder.
As ugly as that sounds...that's about as close to a truth...as you will realize.
Neg Rep away.......the balance of power has never weighed out...and it never will. The sheep always out number the wolves...but the wolves run the show. You can't make sheep into wolves...or wolves into sheep.
* after the surfing contest in huntington beach last weekend...a minor riot started..with the fans chanting USA USA USA and getting pepper sprayed. That sums it up for me....fodder...all they could come up with is chanting a slogan of nationalism. Precious dimwits...as the next thing..they would resort to praising god
because ex masons have written books about it and given interviews where they explain as much as they can without breaking their oaths of secrecy. some have even broken the oath and published a lot of information from inside the masons.
as far as i've read the lower echelons are mostly good and God fearing people, trying to do good things for their communities.
as far as i've read the lower echelons are mostly good and God fearing people, trying to do good things for their communities.
There's a very good research documentary series on Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, Sir Francis Bacon, and the Occult entitled Secret History of America's Beginnings. As far as I can tell this series is highly accurate in content. Very very long (3 parts of the series with each being at least 2.5 hours long).
All three parts are on YouTube for free.
All three parts are on YouTube for free.
manning not guilty of 'aiding the enemy'...film at eleven
If you believe the masons are running the world...that's fine by me. I don't think so myself.
Anyone can write a book...and they can write anything they want. Some of it will be valid...some will be conjecture..some opinion...some will be lies/fiction and some will hold enough water...to squeeze out plausible theory
Keeping secrets...is not something people do well. Keeping such world controlling secrets...for centuries...is down right fantasy. It's a great story. Almost like a religious tale making explanation for our existence. Same damned thing actually. We can't figure why everything is so fucked up...so we blame a secret society....precious. Hell this thread is based on the spilling of secrets
But judged guilty of everything else, including violating the Espionage Act, Obama's favorite tool. The guy will be incarcerated for life looks like.
LOL did i say the masons are running the world? i don't think i did. nope i didn't.
It's not that funny. That was the general theme of the conversation I believe...at least how I was reading it between bentom and myself.
You are a faithful aren't you? It doesn't seem you gel with anything I say.
something more of relevance to the thread;:have not checked if its been noticed before.
EDIT: well now i saw posts at page 53 but i'll keep this anyways.
Bradley Manning cleared of 'aiding the enemy' but guilty of most other charges
• Pfc. Manning convicted of multiple Espionage Act violations
• Acquitted of most serious 'aiding the enemy' charge
• Army private faces maximum jail sentence of 130 years
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/bradley-manning-wikileaks-judge-verdict
..And that leads to my question to you wich is - Do you think Edward.S would receive a similiar penalty, pre-trial treatment etc.?
EDIT: well now i saw posts at page 53 but i'll keep this anyways.
Bradley Manning cleared of 'aiding the enemy' but guilty of most other charges
• Pfc. Manning convicted of multiple Espionage Act violations
• Acquitted of most serious 'aiding the enemy' charge
• Army private faces maximum jail sentence of 130 years
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/bradley-manning-wikileaks-judge-verdict
..And that leads to my question to you wich is - Do you think Edward.S would receive a similiar penalty, pre-trial treatment etc.?
i just don'l like having meaning put to my posts that were not meant or even there to begin with. for the rest you have your views and i have mine, thats fine, no need for everyone to "gel" with everything. would be boring.
My intention was to wash over the entire theory that world is being run by a specific secret society (one that would have the goal of global dominance).....and as the masons were the subject at hand...
I wasn't directly putting meaning in your posts...but as you stepped in with the Masons having higher degrees/ranking which have higher degrees of knowledge...seems like an appropriate place to address the whole keeping secrets thing
The masons are not bad folks...a social club...a networking club...high up in politics though they may be...obviously successful
Down without the gel..or maybe I did put words in your mouth (IF you believe IF)...for which I apologize
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