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KG's master plan.

Neekz

Member
If the canopies nice and dense, I sometimes "tuck" big fans blocking budsight's as an alternative to defoliating, again, not very effective if the canopy ain't thick enough to hold it down.

Hey Late, some strains pistils change early some don't, I have had plants 90% orange and still pack on weight and clear trich's. Depend's on your goal for the crop I would say on harvesting, but pistil coloration is not much to worry about, now if it was calyx's changing tone's I would be worried!
 

SoulSurfer

Member
I can smell it, through the screen.. >_< Nice man good shizz!! I'm jealous, I have so far. What day is it @ from when you started growing?
 
K

kiwi_growa

wow wow dude those flowers look nice n dense. I wish I could get my flowers that dense. I guess its mostly in the gene pool of ur flowers.

Heya Cheesebuds:thank you: I think its a mix of the gene pool and the HID lighting. I would never have them this dense if i was still using the CFL lighting.



LTTG:tiphat:, Great seeing you here:woohoo: I found the pistols all went that color after the neem oil spray which is to be expected. But as you can all see there are new pistols still bursting out so i should be safe.

Neekz, Thanks for the tip mate!:thank you:I have been folding the leaves where possible but some of them would just bounce straight back to original position in a matter of minutes. I had to take them off. Only about 2 or 3 leaves a week come off any plants of mine at the MAX. I really don't like taking away the leaves unless they are dyeing off the plant.


SS, :biggrin: They smell great don't they?? I can't wait til they're all jarred and cured. Gonna be some great smoke. To answer your question, these girls were all cloned about 100 days ago roughly. So they have been going for quite some time, but i believe that it will all be worth it in end. Good things take time.
 
K

kiwi_growa

Here's a run down of the flowering time if each of the strains i have:

Black Widow = 8-10Weeks.

Black Domina = 50 days.

Power Kush = 45-55days.

P.E = 52-62days.(~57days)

Being that all these plants are now at 31 days of flowering i think i will start the 2week flush on the Power Kush and black domina. I'll let the other two go another week before i start giving them the flush.

Should be smooth sailing from here.:whee::smoke:
 
K

kiwi_growa

I would just guess, anywhere from 5 weeks to 8 weeks i would start the 2 week flush. Not a lot of strains will go past 10 weeks, some hardcore sativa's will and they're usually pretty easy to spot by the thin fingered leaves. All you can do is guess. Most strains average around 7 weeks to 9 weeks flowering time, and the ones that are done in 7 weeks can usually go a week more without too much trouble.
So I would say that you could start the flush at 5-6weeks.
There are people out there using organics that flush from day 1 of 12/12 and get awesome results.
 

SoulSurfer

Member
SS, :biggrin: They smell great don't they?? I can't wait til they're all jarred and cured. Gonna be some great smoke. To answer your question, these girls were all cloned about 100 days ago roughly. So they have been going for quite some time, but i believe that it will all be worth it in end. Good things take time.


Yes they do!! Me either lol. Hope you enjoy, best of luck to you. For sure thanks, those are beasty to be 3 months and some odd days!! Nicely done sir. :respect: I'm at 21 days, still have like what?... 100 something days. :clock watch: Like you said tho Good things take time. Look at us!! We're a bunch of collided atoms in constant vibration. Take a look at my latest quote in my Sig, it's one of my favorites. We're stardust growing stardust to get a feeling of more stardusted THC. Haha I'm high. :biggrin: I'll trade you nuggies when I harvest. =P
 
K

kiwi_growa

Yes they do!! Me either lol. Hope you enjoy, best of luck to you. For sure thanks, those are beasty to be 3 months and some odd days!! Nicely done sir. :respect: I'm at 21 days, still have like what?... 100 something days. :clock watch: Like you said tho Good things take time. Look at us!! We're a bunch of collided atoms in constant vibration. Take a look at my latest quote in my Sig, it's one of my favorites. We're stardust growing stardust to get a feeling of more stardusted THC. Haha I'm high. :biggrin: I'll trade you nuggies when I harvest. =P


Personally i think they're tiny for what they could be at 3months old. But thanks for the compliment!:thank you: I agree your about 100days away, which isn't that much really. I mean 20-30 more days veg would have your plants bigger than mine, and then you still have 60-70days to flower. So if you're willing to wait it out and veg for a longer time than i did you wont regret it. You're harvest will almost double in my opinion.

I am only looking at a couple ounces, maybe 3 or 4 if im lucky. But i highly doubt it. For a 400watt that is reeaal inefficient. But i'm only playing with just over a square ft of footprint, so it's not too bad. Next time i will veg for twice as long.

Love the signature btw! It seems odd to me that we can control our minds, almost in the same way we control our muscles. We can purposefully cause thoughts to arise in our minds.

On the other hand, eating certain foods or exercising can drastically alter your mood, perception, and thoughts, further supporting the idea that the mind only arises from the body.

Why is it, then, that we can alter our brains by a practice such as meditation? It seems to me that the only way we should be able to physically alter the brain is through physical means. How do these mental operations cause physical changes in the brain? Meditators actually have larger and more active prefrontal cortexes. It completely changes their mind. How is this? What makes us be able to control our thoughts?
 
K

kiwi_growa

The B.W is really starting to get dense. The buds are thickening verrry nicely. The pics suck coz i left my good camera in the office, but you can sorta see what i mean. I am in love with this plant.:flowers2::wahey: :jerkit:
 

SoulSurfer

Member
Personally i think they're tiny for what they could be at 3months old. But thanks for the compliment!:thank you: I agree your about 100days away, which isn't that much really. I mean 20-30 more days veg would have your plants bigger than mine, and then you still have 60-70days to flower. So if you're willing to wait it out and veg for a longer time than i did you wont regret it. You're harvest will almost double in my opinion.

I am only looking at a couple ounces, maybe 3 or 4 if im lucky. But i highly doubt it. For a 400watt that is reeaal inefficient. But i'm only playing with just over a square ft of footprint, so it's not too bad. Next time i will veg for twice as long.

Love the signature btw! It seems odd to me that we can control our minds, almost in the same way we control our muscles. We can purposefully cause thoughts to arise in our minds.

On the other hand, eating certain foods or exercising can drastically alter your mood, perception, and thoughts, further supporting the idea that the mind only arises from the body.

Why is it, then, that we can alter our brains by a practice such as meditation? It seems to me that the only way we should be able to physically alter the brain is through physical means. How do these mental operations cause physical changes in the brain? Meditators actually have larger and more active prefrontal cortexes. It completely changes their mind. How is this? What makes us be able to control our thoughts?

I was planning to veg for 8 - 10 weeks. Then flower 8 - 10. Seems legit yeah? Thanks for the info and advice, I will take it to heart and focus on getting my babies as big as possible before I bud them. Also to answer your question, it's quite simple, yet complex. You ever hear of the Pineal Gland? It's your 3rd Eye. It gives off a substance called DMT ( Dimethyltriptamine) that helps you dream. Every culture on earth knows of it, Why don't the governments teach what this is? To have complete control of the people of coarse. IT's much easier to control the masses when they're walking around blindly. I've meditated and opened my Pineal Gland multiple times. The first was unintentional, I was suicidal at the time and looking up at the stars was my only vice aside from weed. Watched Venus for like 30 minutes then closed my eyes and POP. Felt a super feeling of Euphoria than got this crazy message from the universe. Haha it's quite uplifting. (When smoking DMT, the experienced user can travel to the Astral plane and unlock different dimensions.) I look at it like this, it's yin, and yang. In this life, this body, we need our physical and mental issues to perceive this world correctly. Without a healthy mind, body, and soul , these bodies would be nothing more than an empty capsule. ^_^ Then again, that's just my opinion. I'm in love with that plant too tho , share her? Haha
 
Ohhhhh... even with a sucky camera, they still look good! I especially love your Black Widow... mmmm :)

Interesting discussion on the pineal, SoulSurfer!

Regarding mine and flushing, CD4 is usually a 10 weeker, so I will start weaning at 7 weeks or so... I don't use heavy nutes anyway. LP... not sure on her flowering time, but she appears more indica dom, and her buds look more advanced anyway, so I will likely start weaning her at 5 weeks or so, I guess. Pics tomorrow for me! :)
 

Neekz

Member
Nice and Chunky Kiwi! Gotta love how Indy's race to the finish...

Hey soulsurfer, a little side conjecture of the Pineal. Throughout my childhood I would have weird dark dreams, mostly metaphorical, and of thing's that I didn't understand at the time. Probably from watching movies like "The Labryinth and Terminator" growing up, lol, but they were so vivid , and I would have the sense of being so small and insignificant in these weird dreams of mechanical titan's. Well ever since I picked up our beloved plant, I have very very seldom dreamed. The occasional night I am without my before bed bowl, I do have weird vivid dreams. I feel there is a connection between the Pineal and MJ aswell, long story short, whether it supresses or alters it... Should start an off-topic thread on it, see who else chimes in... Let us explore and unlock our minds...
 
K

kiwi_growa

This is such a great debate, but modern science can show how the mind has access to nerves and function systems to most, if not all of, the body. Therefore, they cannot be separate.

My question is, is the physical world separate from the mind. There are a lot of new age statements about one life, one love, one self, and everyone is one. What does this mean though? Is this only a funny catch phrase or some theory that is provable? As it is seen now, we are all separate and distinct individual replicator beings.

SS, i would love to share some of each of my girls with you. It is a shame you live on the other side of the planet otherwise i would be on my way right now to blaze 1 up with ya pal. The best i can offer you is pictures and good vibes for now. Really appreciate all you people keeping this grow journel interesting, i have visions of MrcopyZ, NKOTS, SS, OKD, NEEKZ, LTTG, Twist, Cheesebudz and I sitting around a table chopping up some nugs of this black widow and sharing a fat blunt between us...Dreams are free man...
 

MrCopyZ

Member
This is such a great debate, but modern science can show how the mind has access to nerves and function systems to most, if not all of, the body. Therefore, they cannot be separate.

My question is, is the physical world separate from the mind. There are a lot of new age statements about one life, one love, one self, and everyone is one. What does this mean though? Is this only a funny catch phrase or some theory that is provable? As it is seen now, we are all separate and distinct individual replicator beings.

Im with you... If I can make my hand move... then if I think hard enough shouldn't I be able to grow another arm atleast or something... Create some kind of warning that goes off in my head(the concept of pain comes to mind) if I have some deadly disease that to this day you wouldn't know you had until far into it cause it was killing you .

We can heal ourselves... in small cuts your body just mends back togethor with some scar tissue... But why can't we think it... why is it in the dark part of our brain we can't "see"...

And the scariest part of it is that the international military industrial complex is working on this... They are not trying to do it with their mind, by accessing that dark and mysterious portion of our selves, but by working it out in a lab using the scientific method...

I have looked at pain specifically as an alert our body sends us when they are problems with the physical body we have manifested from the plasma of space.

If you look at the world in the way we understand it now then you realize that we are just the manifestations of particles... that we can't even understand what they are cause we keep finding out they are made of more and more things. They keep smashing atoms and keep finding stuff. And hell imagine all the stuff we can't even think to test for!

I would say that we are all one in the sense that their is only one reality that ever has happened, is happening or will happen and that we are all part of that. On the other hand my current accumulation of particles is not your current accumulation of particles as something can only be something not everything, atleast in a literal sense.
 
K

kiwi_growa

Very scary thought Mrcopyz! I am not quite sure why but I'm a little afraid of humans advancing anymore than we already have...To be honest i think we're too smart for our own good....

On to the plants again though, you guys would not believe how solid the buds are on the P.E... I mean these things are like rocks, at first i thought they were fluffy and haven't really had the courage to touch any yet because i know that can slow things down. I gave a side bud a lil squeeze and was just blown away at how solid they are. Anybody who's grown the strain will probably know what i mean.
 
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