San Diego Finest Cuts #3

[Danksmith]

yes i see your point and agree that a spotless plant is one that might seem best....

also would like to note here that i asked here cause i really value your guys opinion in here and feel like i can really learn a lot from u guys... so really i am just formulating opinions here nothing negative or argumentative...real talk...

but yea i kinda always leaned towards getting the tip burn to minimal using it as somewhat of a marker as to growth rates....

however after seeing some of the most impressive plant ive ever seen with massive tip burns i naturally started asking questions.... and this is in the heart of emerald tri where methods are passed from generation to gen... and appntly guys mentor would aim for as much burn as possible and referred to it as pusing them to the next level....

mind you no apparent comprimise in dankness, resin content, nose, potency etc....

im thinking what its gonna come down to is me doing a side by side where i try both... one go for burn one for pic perfect.... i reckon thatll be the only way we/i can have a final product to judge.. without some real science speak thats only way i guess...

for whatever its worth i think you guys make some really valid points ill have to look into it more...

 

[Danksmith]

I'd have to differ that tip burn caused from misapplication is nothing like a callus that builds up with normal use. I have no doubt from your pics that your smoke is fire with lots of appeal but I'd be willing to bet it could be even better if you get that issue under control. IME whenever you eliminate a particular stress no matter how small the results are always positive

i like what you said but perhaps the slight stress is just an affect from the plant metabolizing and photosynthesizing faster than the leaf is used to...

so is optimal growth and speeded trich pod production worth the stress u see on tips.... ?

cost vs benefit anaylsis works much better if i had two final products in front of me and maybe a lab....

sry to taking up this valuable thread with this... ill report back later if i ever find anything conclusive

 

[420247]

hey maybe i can get your guys opinion .... i look for the burnt tips you see in the second pic.. i equate that to pushing the plant in a healthy-ish way....

is that right? i dont know much about it but i know that when i push plants and they put out they do that...

should i be trying to get the burn to minimal ... like dial back?
or should i go for more tip burn.. ?

does any of this make sense?... never really looked into it tbh....

Leaf Scorch is not a good thing...

This link says why ----> Link

I look at it like the plant is telling me something... Basically the plants letting you know your doing something wrong without words.

 

[Danksmith]

perfect!

+rep^

also explains why i correlate it with faster growth.... .in high temps i move much air and increase co2 so its just something paired with the circumstance we see it under.....

great stuff guys....

from now on ill just take your word for it... im just someone whos not convinced unless i understand why things work the way they do...

 

[Swampdankv2]

Interesting. I surf through this thread looking for the latest SoCal bud porn and found this great topic. I haven't seen it discussed in depth before.

I'm tuned in.

 

[Terpene]

All good points but the question still remains though - are we looking at burn or a deficiency within the plant? I don't think they look too pushed (as I said, mine have a similar look on straight dirt with low temps) any ideas?

 

[sunset limited]

very nice krystallos!

here is my charity og #6 ... i call this the pine tar pheno ....which most resembles the ocean beach og mother...

please excuse the burn spots... she kicked ass considering i have zero temp control atm... cant wait to do her again where im not in the 90s lol
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how far along is this?

the burnt tips wouldn't concern me much personally. i push mine right to the edge in weeks 5 & 6 (later for 70+ day gear). then i back off considerably to let them finish properly. if these are week 10 pics, the foliage looks right to me. slight curl, autumn colors, etc. the CSU article makes some excellent points. they are talking entirely about ornamental trees though. IOW, they are talking about plants which are prized for their foliage. while a healthy plant is a happy plant, other things equal, i will compromise pretty leaves if it will probably result in more, more potent, better looking flowers.

speaking of which, the flowers in the second shot are what would have me wondering though. see all the new white hairs? if they are as far along as i guess, that would be indicative of not easing off in the last weeks. towards the end, i try to keep them hungry (so they finish) and thirsty (for a little extra trich production).

this is just my BS opinion though and it's not backed up with any research other than my own meager experience.

 

[Grizz]

i believe your spot on sunset. less is more in the last 3 weeks of flower. no need for high nutes. let them do there thing and flush the hell out of them.

 

[Danksmith]

how far along is this?

the burnt tips wouldn't concern me much personally. i push mine right to the edge in weeks 5 & 6 (later for 70+ day gear). then i back off considerably to let them finish properly. if these are week 10 pics, the foliage looks right to me. slight curl, autumn colors, etc. the CSU article makes some excellent points. they are talking entirely about ornamental trees though. IOW, they are talking about plants which are prized for their foliage. while a healthy plant is a happy plant, other things equal, i will compromise pretty leaves if it will probably result in more, more potent, better looking flowers.

speaking of which, the flowers in the second shot are what would have me wondering though. see all the new white hairs? if they are as far along as i guess, that would be indicative of not easing off in the last weeks. towards the end, i try to keep them hungry (so they finish) and thirsty (for a little extra trich production).

this is just my BS opinion though and it's not backed up with any research other than my own meager experience.

well said....
i think this is the rationalization i made

i always feed nothing but molasses and aerated water for the last 2.5 minimum to ensure none of my veganic nutes or calmag might be clogging things.... however i do feed bio herd tea all the way up to 5 days in the absence of base nutes of course

yea i agree on the whites... i think that shot is approaching finish maybe a week out...

 

[Danksmith]

All good points but the question still remains though - are we looking at burn or a deficiency within the plant? I don't think they look too pushed (as I said, mine have a similar look on straight dirt with low temps) any ideas?

from what ive seen on multiple strains now is its not linked to deficiency...

here is wk 5 harliquen x og thats thriving



i appreciate the participation and everyones input some good stuff here

 

[Tardigrade]

Danksmith seems an appropriate name with those pics showin. I like those girls, lookin dense as can be.

 

[sunset limited]

^^^your avatar looks a bit like a broad mite.

just saying.

 

[420247]

All good points but the question still remains though - are we looking at burn or a deficiency within the plant? I don't think they look too pushed (as I said, mine have a similar look on straight dirt with low temps) any ideas?

Its from to much N in flowering. Cannabis uses very little N after the first 2 to 4 weeks of flowering.

To little N would be the leaves turning yellow.

I think of it like tuning a carburetor on a race car, you can still run if its to rich or lean, but when its just right its a beautiful thing.

I always found it odd that most micro nutrients sold at the hydro shops are high in N a macro nutrient...

 

[420247]

Picture from 6-17
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Picture from today (6-29)
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My seedlings 7-19. I need to get started transplanting the confirmed females into there final pots.

The Nor Cal Grape/OG

The (Trip X BB) X Leda Uno

 

[Danksmith]

i really appreciate everyone input... great stuff

im really excited about this la con clone only cut i have.... the source and story behind suggests that its the cut that won the cup in 2003... also apothecary mentioned to me its the la to have...? so idk...

shit is bomb tho... for a long time i was tellin heads like yea i got this awesome la cut that makes the best deisel flowers ive had out here.... everyone always goes.....oh.... la ....yea i like la.... lol

yea so this is a crazy bitch at 49 days 12.12 here... also some tip burn too.... i dont think shes trippin tho

 

[krustallos]

subrob's AW99 before getting chopped

 

[subrob]

Wow man...that looks beautiful! Terpene has also run these seeds ...and someone else..can't remember ATM....but every time someone does I say..I gotta crack some...

 

[subrob]

You might have been gone krust when we discovered it wasn't Albert walker..we never figured out what she is..so that cut we crossed to cindy99 is now called dago walker...

 

[Terpene]

Sub's right - he does need to run some of them.

Based on Krustallos's pic, I would say you're looking at the C99 side of the cross. I think the Cindy leaning phenos are better than the Dago Walker side. The Cindy adds potency and a nice pineapple / grapefruit tang to even out the tangerine / citrus funk of the Dago Walker.

For those looking to select down before flower, the stems will reek in veg when rubbed. If your fingers smell like a citrus fruit salad, you're good to go.

A friend smacked a particularly potent Cindy leaning pheno with that GHS Marley's Collie x sterile Dj Short Flo pollen. I'm probably 10 days from finishing the first of the resulting cross, which (to my surprise) is really resilient. I'll put up a picture or two when shes done.

 

[cody2white]

mmmhm im making my dago walker a mother and hopefully do a full run of her shortly. she is DANK.